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Some clearly believe America is at the heart of all that is wrong in the world.
Quite staggeringly most criticism is aimed their way when we have people offering tacit support for blitzing Israel out of the world.
The fact we have a people who state time after time they want to blow ISRAEL way.Nothing to do with borders, GAZA,disputed land just wipe them off the map. We have British kids going out to behead journalists, although as an Amercian they d understand that, and yet the problem is elsewhere. Hence my point about the scum that is GALLOWAY who has form for supporting genocide if its the right one.
He represents to me the appalling hypocrisy that is evident here.
200 rockets have been fired into ISRAEL, since the last ceasefire. now...come on.. Ive stated before maybe ISRAEL should do nothing and allow its people to be killed. THEN some might see the wood for the trees. THERE AGAIN, the world stood by for many years and allowed them to be slaughtered in their millions although that is of course contested by some
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 16:02 - Aug 22 by Davillin
Most respectfully, this will be my last post on this subject.
Oil is not the issue, and has never been mentioned by ISIS. Oil is the issue always resorted to by people who want to criticize the West for becoming involved in war in the Middle East, irrespective of what the participants believe is the real reason.
Some have to dispute what the participants say and assign "oil" as the truth. And that's O.K. It's just that no-one else has to believe it, especially in the face of what ISIS itself say, and how it acts.
Finally, have you heard of ISIS tellig the people whom they capture that they must either give up their oil, or leave, or be killed? Or is it "give up your religion and convert to Islam," or leave, or be killed?
Almost every war and conflict in recent times has been fought because of resources. To believe the west is interested in the area purely because of altruism is naïve in the extreme
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 16:49 - Aug 22 with 1765 views
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 16:47 - Aug 22 by perchrockjack
Some clearly believe America is at the heart of all that is wrong in the world.
Quite staggeringly most criticism is aimed their way when we have people offering tacit support for blitzing Israel out of the world.
The fact we have a people who state time after time they want to blow ISRAEL way.Nothing to do with borders, GAZA,disputed land just wipe them off the map. We have British kids going out to behead journalists, although as an Amercian they d understand that, and yet the problem is elsewhere. Hence my point about the scum that is GALLOWAY who has form for supporting genocide if its the right one.
He represents to me the appalling hypocrisy that is evident here.
200 rockets have been fired into ISRAEL, since the last ceasefire. now...come on.. Ive stated before maybe ISRAEL should do nothing and allow its people to be killed. THEN some might see the wood for the trees. THERE AGAIN, the world stood by for many years and allowed them to be slaughtered in their millions although that is of course contested by some
I've been very supportive of the Palestinian cause recently but they don't do themselves any favours - why fire into Israel during a peace conference. Idiots.
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 17:14 - Aug 22 with 1750 views
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 13:17 - Aug 21 by JackoBoostardo
I'm sure the families of the captured journalists give a sh:t. Not everything in this world is fun mate, and not everything can be ignored. Ignoring the situation this long has already resulted in a fast expansion of IS which is the biggest that we face at present in terms of national security.
Yeah I'm sure they do give a shit. You seem to have missed my point.
I'm not ignoring it. This crap is plastered all over the news, why do I want to come on the off topic section of the football forum and see it all poorly regurgitated by a bunch of people who know next to nothing about it?
I find it depressing and know that none of us can do anything about it. It's like a cancer, you kill it off a bit but it seems to come back. Suck it up, what's the point in whinging about it.
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 17:19 - Aug 22 with 1754 views
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 16:47 - Aug 22 by perchrockjack
Some clearly believe America is at the heart of all that is wrong in the world.
Quite staggeringly most criticism is aimed their way when we have people offering tacit support for blitzing Israel out of the world.
The fact we have a people who state time after time they want to blow ISRAEL way.Nothing to do with borders, GAZA,disputed land just wipe them off the map. We have British kids going out to behead journalists, although as an Amercian they d understand that, and yet the problem is elsewhere. Hence my point about the scum that is GALLOWAY who has form for supporting genocide if its the right one.
He represents to me the appalling hypocrisy that is evident here.
200 rockets have been fired into ISRAEL, since the last ceasefire. now...come on.. Ive stated before maybe ISRAEL should do nothing and allow its people to be killed. THEN some might see the wood for the trees. THERE AGAIN, the world stood by for many years and allowed them to be slaughtered in their millions although that is of course contested by some
Can you show me where they have said they want to blow Israel off the map?
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 17:33 - Aug 22 with 1741 views
We ve had a tough day here so this is release for me but in all seriousness if you believe its heresay then with the greatest respect you need to research more.
All muslims,whether sunni or shia (Hezbollah) have a commitment to wipe jews and the state of ISRAEL from the map . THEY REALLY DO WANT TO KILL THEM ALL. Israel ,to me, wants them to stop firing rockets -they kill too-.
Granted Israel go ott ,as they ve always done, but its a reaction not proaction.
Israelis are also not pursueing those whom they disagree with and jewish boys are not freeling this country to behead people either. The land HAMAS is fighting for will have women as virtual slaves, objects belonging to their men , stoning, crucifixtion and body parts chopped off. Israel doesn't do this to its own so tell me who is the least civilised. Im not jewish but I see their cause and the way they are their own worst enemies but they are not a world threat. Jihadist,Hezbolla ,IS are. THEY HATE NOT JUST Israel but their people.
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 18:01 - Aug 22 by perchrockjack
We ve had a tough day here so this is release for me but in all seriousness if you believe its heresay then with the greatest respect you need to research more.
All muslims,whether sunni or shia (Hezbollah) have a commitment to wipe jews and the state of ISRAEL from the map . THEY REALLY DO WANT TO KILL THEM ALL. Israel ,to me, wants them to stop firing rockets -they kill too-.
Granted Israel go ott ,as they ve always done, but its a reaction not proaction.
Israelis are also not pursueing those whom they disagree with and jewish boys are not freeling this country to behead people either. The land HAMAS is fighting for will have women as virtual slaves, objects belonging to their men , stoning, crucifixtion and body parts chopped off. Israel doesn't do this to its own so tell me who is the least civilised. Im not jewish but I see their cause and the way they are their own worst enemies but they are not a world threat. Jihadist,Hezbolla ,IS are. THEY HATE NOT JUST Israel but their people.
"all muslims" absolute b.s
Jews lived side by side muslims for thousands of years before Israel existed
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 18:15 - Aug 22 with 1714 views
Almost every war and conflict in recent times has been fought because of resources. To believe the west is interested in the area purely because of altruism is naïve in the extreme
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Thanks, but my understanding is that it's all hearsay
Absolutely! Hearsay it is then!
Oh! Look what I found after 10 seconds of searching - direct from Hamas operated TV networks!
So looks like it's not hearsay afterall eh?
And getting back on topic - this isn't about resources! You're wrong about that too Controversial. Hamas is an extremist organisation too, and the Palestinian people really need to see through Hamas and see them for what they really are - antagonistic and pro-aggression (as this keeps them naturally in power).
IS is a terrorist organisation - FACT. It's an ARMY that is recruiting more people than our own armed services, and ALL are willing to martyr themselves for their cause! Remember also that there are high levels of extremists in the UK that, whilst not travelling abroad in the name of their jihad, are still willing to die by committing their crimes in the UK!
It's crazy that you are digging your head in the sand and denying this is as much of a problem - globally, as it is!
It should be shameful that the US and other countries are having to send their own teams of specialists to the UK to find answers, and to hunt for terrorists operating abroad because the UK is a soft-touch, complete with freaking training grounds too! It's the 'bury your head in the sand' mentality that has put us here!
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 18:11 - Aug 22 by keeponrockin
"all muslims" absolute b.s
Jews lived side by side muslims for thousands of years before Israel existed
Since the teens went missing from Gush Etzion, a Jewish-only colony in the West Bank, Israel has besieged the 4 million Palestinians who already live under its thumb, storming through towns, ransacking homes and civil institutions, conducting night raids on families, stealing property, kidnapping, injuring, and killing. Warplanes were dispatched to bomb Gaza, again and repeatedly, destroying more homes and institutions and carrying out extrajudicial executions. Thus far, over 570 Palestinians have been kidnapped and imprisoned, most notably a Samer Issawi, the Palestinian who went on a 266-day hunger strike in protest of a previous arbitrary detention. At least 10 Palestinians have been killed, including at least three children, a pregnant woman, and a mentally ill man. Hundreds have been injured, thousands terrorized. Universities and social welfare organizations were ransacked, shut down, their computers and equipment destroyed or stolen, and both private and public documents confiscated from civil institutions. This wonton thuggery is official state policy conducted by its military and does not include the violence to persons and properties perpetuated by paramilitary Israeli settlers, whose persistent attacks against Palestinian civilians have also escalated in the past weeks
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 19:29 - Aug 22 with 1683 views
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 18:49 - Aug 22 by JackoBoostardo
Absolutely! Hearsay it is then!
Oh! Look what I found after 10 seconds of searching - direct from Hamas operated TV networks!
So looks like it's not hearsay afterall eh?
And getting back on topic - this isn't about resources! You're wrong about that too Controversial. Hamas is an extremist organisation too, and the Palestinian people really need to see through Hamas and see them for what they really are - antagonistic and pro-aggression (as this keeps them naturally in power).
IS is a terrorist organisation - FACT. It's an ARMY that is recruiting more people than our own armed services, and ALL are willing to martyr themselves for their cause! Remember also that there are high levels of extremists in the UK that, whilst not travelling abroad in the name of their jihad, are still willing to die by committing their crimes in the UK!
It's crazy that you are digging your head in the sand and denying this is as much of a problem - globally, as it is!
It should be shameful that the US and other countries are having to send their own teams of specialists to the UK to find answers, and to hunt for terrorists operating abroad because the UK is a soft-touch, complete with freaking training grounds too! It's the 'bury your head in the sand' mentality that has put us here!
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Hamas was not formed until 1988.The Palestinians have been persecuted for a lot longer than that No country on earth has ignored more UN resolutions than than Israel has .Now tell me who the terrorist organisation is?
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 19:35 - Aug 22 with 1679 views
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 18:49 - Aug 22 by JackoBoostardo
Absolutely! Hearsay it is then!
Oh! Look what I found after 10 seconds of searching - direct from Hamas operated TV networks!
So looks like it's not hearsay afterall eh?
And getting back on topic - this isn't about resources! You're wrong about that too Controversial. Hamas is an extremist organisation too, and the Palestinian people really need to see through Hamas and see them for what they really are - antagonistic and pro-aggression (as this keeps them naturally in power).
IS is a terrorist organisation - FACT. It's an ARMY that is recruiting more people than our own armed services, and ALL are willing to martyr themselves for their cause! Remember also that there are high levels of extremists in the UK that, whilst not travelling abroad in the name of their jihad, are still willing to die by committing their crimes in the UK!
It's crazy that you are digging your head in the sand and denying this is as much of a problem - globally, as it is!
It should be shameful that the US and other countries are having to send their own teams of specialists to the UK to find answers, and to hunt for terrorists operating abroad because the UK is a soft-touch, complete with freaking training grounds too! It's the 'bury your head in the sand' mentality that has put us here!
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Seems like they want to destroy the occupiers and invaders, nothing unusual about that, in fact it's acceptable under International law.The same International laws that Israel doesn't abide by
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 20:13 - Aug 22 with 1649 views
Seems like they want to destroy the occupiers and invaders, nothing unusual about that, in fact it's acceptable under International law.The same International laws that Israel doesn't abide by
You don't actually read your earlier posts, nor remember them right?
Let me remind you again..
"Can you show me where they have said they want to blow Israel off the map?"
Well there you have it - it's being indoctrinated at a young age to attack Israel without any thought for diplomatic routes. And as we've seen repeatedly during this conflict, it appears to be Hamas fighters and rockets that are firing on Israel in populated areas and during ceasefires.
What's so difficult to comprehend here? Hamas also have very close links to the Muslim Brotherhood, who in turn also have heavy links with IS.
And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C!
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HELL even C4 today announced a 4 yr old kid killed by hamas rockets. They sent 80 today still its Israel s fault innit so its deserved as they should give up the land .
The palastinian funeral was something to behold too full of revenge and hate unbridled so ceasefire , do me a favour. No chance.
Some nice beheading taking place too in public ,kids thought it a treat t see. Watch their faces. THEY ARE INDOCTRINATED as are the people not willing to see the obvious and that is Islamist terrorists that "are in our streets, in our state and you are our targets" now tell me who is uncivilised.
Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 20:13 - Aug 22 by JackoBoostardo
You don't actually read your earlier posts, nor remember them right?
Let me remind you again..
"Can you show me where they have said they want to blow Israel off the map?"
Well there you have it - it's being indoctrinated at a young age to attack Israel without any thought for diplomatic routes. And as we've seen repeatedly during this conflict, it appears to be Hamas fighters and rockets that are firing on Israel in populated areas and during ceasefires.
What's so difficult to comprehend here? Hamas also have very close links to the Muslim Brotherhood, who in turn also have heavy links with IS.
You don't seem to comprehend that the Palestinians are living in a strictly controlled compound. They have no freedom to travel are not allowed to rebuild their homes , have restricted travel, restrictions on farming , restrictions on water use , not allowed proper health care or education. Many are constantly threatened and abused by Israeli paramilitary settlers. What do you expect them to do, greet the Israeli settlers with garlands of flowers and dancing girls?. Of course they are being taught to repel the invaders and occupiers.
Every country on earth would do the same. Didn't Churchill say we will fight them to the end. Come on man, wake up do some proper research and get yourself educated
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 20:53 - Aug 22 with 1624 views
You don't seem to comprehend that the Palestinians are living in a strictly controlled compound. They have no freedom to travel are not allowed to rebuild their homes , have restricted travel, restrictions on farming , restrictions on water use , not allowed proper health care or education. Many are constantly threatened and abused by Israeli paramilitary settlers. What do you expect them to do, greet the Israeli settlers with garlands of flowers and dancing girls?. Of course they are being taught to repel the invaders and occupiers.
Every country on earth would do the same. Didn't Churchill say we will fight them to the end. Come on man, wake up do some proper research and get yourself educated
No, I do comprehend it entirely. You clearly don't though.
They have a real chance for change here - with the international community viewing Israel more negatively in this conflict. However, as long as Hamas are in charge, instigating the fighting during a ceasefire for instance instead of seeking diplomatic channels, then they will always be at war.
Hamas drive hate in order to remain in power - it really is that simple! However, if you look at the whole picture, it's isn't the case of fighting against "invaders" and "occupiers". You really do have a naive way of looking into this - very Galloway-esque.
To initiate peace - Hamas needs to go and everyone needs to stop firing weapons. Hamas are the instigators here, even going so far as to fire their rockets from populated areas so there are civilian casualties! It is the civilians who get it in the neck! FACT. Hamas are happy to have civilian casualties as this drives more hate towards Israel and more sentimentality that leads to support for them. They have to go!!
The crazy thing is - Hamas don't even hide this fact.
So clearly this war isn't as one sided as many make out. Whilst Israel clearly have the military dominance, Hamas willingly make the innocents their martyrs.
So there's your answer.
Now let's get back on topic before this switched to Palestine and Israel. IS is a global threat!
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Muslim labour MP on C4 news on 21:02 - Aug 22 by perchrockjack
This simply has to be a wind up?
Hamas rejoice in martyrdom ,they celebrate it, they don't have our attitude towards fairness and negotiation.
The world faces a massive problem and we have people more concerned about the people who want to kill.
Only in Britain, only in Britain..
We have to get our heads out of asses and these people are looking to kill. Don't forget Cardiff has natured the very best in butcheryj
I personally don't understand how some people are just happy to sit on the side lines until something does happen, and by then it may be too late.
It's just crazy perch.
And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C!
We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient).
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We've had similar in the UK with inciteful messages of hate. Yet authorities do very little for fear of insulting the trouble making Muslim minority.
Yet the EDF are hounded wherever they go.
Not a supporter of EDF by any stretch of the imagination - just proving a point that this country has become weak to the point where clear double standards are prevalent.
This country (or specifically the government) needs to grow a pair and toughen up. Let these c*nts back into the country at our peril and prove we're a soft touch!
And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C!
We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient).
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