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Club Ownership / Directors 19:14 - Jun 15 with 33007 viewsPhil_S

There are a few questions floating around the various websites about Swans directors and their shareholdings

We have 9 directors in total who are

Huw Jenkins
Leigh Dineen
Huw Cooze (Trust representative)
John Van Zweden
Steve Penney
Don Keefe
Gwilym Joseph MBE
Martin Morgan
Brian Katzen

We also have two associate directors in David Morgan and Will Morris - these are both non executive positions

Of these 9, 3 of them - Gwilyn, Don and Steve own no shares in the club with the share ownership made up as follows

Martin Morgan 225,000 shares
Brian Katzen 200,000 shares
Swansea City Supporters Trust 200,000 shares
Huw Jenkins 125,000 shares
Robert Davies 100,000 shares
Leigh Dineen 50,000 shares
John Van Zweden 50,000 shares

(Many of these shares are not listed to the individual but businesses associated to them but I have used individual names for ease)

Overall share issue is 950,000 shares





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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:39 - Jun 27 with 1180 viewsDarran

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:37 - Jun 27 by WarwickHunt

Thank you.


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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:54 - Jun 27 with 1163 viewsexiledclaseboy

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:19 - Jun 27 by jackonicko

Warwick will be along in a moment to criticise that possessive apostrophe. Goldman's ... what?

On that note, I'm out.


I'm used to that. He usually has the good grace to do it by PM to be fair to him.

And to think I only entered this melee to pass an hour while the wife was doing something with curtains upstairs. I wonder if my scene will make the final cut?

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Club Ownership / Directors on 15:04 - Jun 27 with 1149 viewsWarwickHunt

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:54 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

I'm used to that. He usually has the good grace to do it by PM to be fair to him.

And to think I only entered this melee to pass an hour while the wife was doing something with curtains upstairs. I wonder if my scene will make the final cut?


I'm the least of your worries, Andrew.

I'm sure Baker will be along shortly to comment on your second sentence...
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Club Ownership / Directors on 15:16 - Jun 27 with 1128 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:10 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

If they're referring to it informally as a nickname thing, which I agree makes complete sense, it's still far more likely to be Goldman's as opposed to Goldmans.

PS - spellchecker is fine with Monks as it's the plural of Monk. Spellcheckers aren't big on context.


The great thing about this is that whereas much of the foregoing involved jargon and somewhat opaque financial language this time everybody can join in.

For example you might type "goldman" with the quotes into Google, which produces 16.5 million hits of which the first page predictably contains various links directly to the Goldman Sachs company.

Contrast that with a search for "goldmans" which produces 365K hits, with the #1 spot going to Shana Goldmans stage school in Brighton, #2 is Goldmans Calne (apparently a home makeover service in the UK), #3 is an Australian enterprise Goldmans Farm Pet Produce, etc, etc.

It is not until page 3 that we see something recognisable in the form of an online article from the powerhouse of financial publishing that is "Binalong Advisory Services, Trading as IO&C" of Australia.

So we have on the one hand LyingLisa and jackanoclue aligned with Binalong, versus me backed up by the New York Times Investment banking section, the Financial Times, and the Wall Street Journal. Tough choice right there!

Even better is that this episode has given everybody an insight into the modus operandi of these jokers; even as their bullshit story continues to unravel they continue to blag, bullshit more, rinse and repeat again; pathological liar to the last is Lisa.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 16:12 - Jun 27 with 1073 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:49 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001

Think of Garry Monk and the fact that the people who know him well all call him Monks. Sort of a nickname, indicating familiarity - I'm sure that the internet & spell checkers would call him Monk though and put a red line through Monks - the uninitiated may think therefore that the people calling him Monks are the ones who don't know his actual name - perhaps they don't have the internet?


Shaky also has had absolutely no dealings with them in any capacity whatsoever either, so I wouldn't let that stop you.

He obviously didn't come across them in his time working in M&S (oh, sorry, that should be M&A shouldn't it - those pesky letters are so close together on the keyboard).


In fact I have had various dealings with Goldman over the years, including the sale of one of my client companies to one of their partners' funds.

There is, however, one thing I must clarify in the interests of a clear conscience.

The time I screwed over Merrill's co-head of M&A wasn't actually in New York but instead in a boardroom in Washington DC.

That said I have been to Merrill's plusher meeting suites at the World Financial Center in New York on quite a few occasions, most memorably on a deal I was doing only a few months after the 9/11 attacks, and the view from the top floors was quite something, very, very eerie indeed.

Of course you got a much better view of the craters at ground level, but given the hoards of security men then freshly recruited, no doubt from amongst the top button men in New York, I doubt you would have been able to blag your way to within 50 paces of the golden bull without getting roughed up.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 16:32 - Jun 27 with 1059 viewsMusical_Swan

Club Ownership / Directors on 15:16 - Jun 27 by Shaky

The great thing about this is that whereas much of the foregoing involved jargon and somewhat opaque financial language this time everybody can join in.

For example you might type "goldman" with the quotes into Google, which produces 16.5 million hits of which the first page predictably contains various links directly to the Goldman Sachs company.

Contrast that with a search for "goldmans" which produces 365K hits, with the #1 spot going to Shana Goldmans stage school in Brighton, #2 is Goldmans Calne (apparently a home makeover service in the UK), #3 is an Australian enterprise Goldmans Farm Pet Produce, etc, etc.

It is not until page 3 that we see something recognisable in the form of an online article from the powerhouse of financial publishing that is "Binalong Advisory Services, Trading as IO&C" of Australia.

So we have on the one hand LyingLisa and jackanoclue aligned with Binalong, versus me backed up by the New York Times Investment banking section, the Financial Times, and the Wall Street Journal. Tough choice right there!

Even better is that this episode has given everybody an insight into the modus operandi of these jokers; even as their bullshit story continues to unravel they continue to blag, bullshit more, rinse and repeat again; pathological liar to the last is Lisa.
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So you do troll the internet looking for this shite then?

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Club Ownership / Directors on 16:35 - Jun 27 with 1053 viewsDarran

Shakys having a mare.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 16:38 - Jun 27 with 1046 viewsMusical_Swan

Club Ownership / Directors on 16:35 - Jun 27 by Darran

Shakys having a mare.


Quit it! Laughing hard enough at this thread as it is!!!

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Club Ownership / Directors on 16:49 - Jun 27 with 1015 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 16:32 - Jun 27 by Musical_Swan

So you do troll the internet looking for this shite then?


What do you mean?

I called Lisa out within minutes for practical purposes instantly when I saw her referring to "Goldmans" because I know full well what people call them.

A day later I then did a bit of googling, not only to back up my overwhelmingly strong position but also to have a bit of fun.

And if you don't think the fact that the dynamic duo are on the same side as a mob called Binalong is funny, you got no soul, boy; you may as well give up the music this instant.


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Club Ownership / Directors on 16:58 - Jun 27 with 1002 viewsUxbridge

Club Ownership / Directors on 20:21 - Jun 16 by Uxbridge

Unless relegation is barred then that scenario is never likely to arise.

Oh, and 20 pager.


It seems I might have understated if anything ...

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Club Ownership / Directors on 17:01 - Jun 27 with 996 viewsMusical_Swan

Club Ownership / Directors on 16:49 - Jun 27 by Shaky

What do you mean?

I called Lisa out within minutes for practical purposes instantly when I saw her referring to "Goldmans" because I know full well what people call them.

A day later I then did a bit of googling, not only to back up my overwhelmingly strong position but also to have a bit of fun.

And if you don't think the fact that the dynamic duo are on the same side as a mob called Binalong is funny, you got no soul, boy; you may as well give up the music this instant.



Let me guess, you've toured with The Stones, ELO and Jimi Hendrix and have a bookshelf full of books on 'How to play like Slash' and 'The Blues like Clapton and the King' and that warrants you to give me advice on music now too!

Simple fact is, is I know very little about finance, but watching you avoid answering direct questions by spouting new bullocks instead has been pretty amusing. No idea if you actually know your stuff or not, and frankly don't care, but you haven't half made yourself look a right tit!

In the immortal words of Darran, "Shakys having a mare!"

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Club Ownership / Directors on 17:15 - Jun 27 with 964 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 17:01 - Jun 27 by Musical_Swan

Let me guess, you've toured with The Stones, ELO and Jimi Hendrix and have a bookshelf full of books on 'How to play like Slash' and 'The Blues like Clapton and the King' and that warrants you to give me advice on music now too!

Simple fact is, is I know very little about finance, but watching you avoid answering direct questions by spouting new bullocks instead has been pretty amusing. No idea if you actually know your stuff or not, and frankly don't care, but you haven't half made yourself look a right tit!

In the immortal words of Darran, "Shakys having a mare!"


Well I must say I was under the growing impression that Darran has started using the term Shaky's having a mare as a euphemism for Shaky's just disemboweled somebody, figuratively speaking obviously.

I could always be wrong about that, however.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 17:29 - Jun 27 with 954 viewsMusical_Swan

Club Ownership / Directors on 17:15 - Jun 27 by Shaky

Well I must say I was under the growing impression that Darran has started using the term Shaky's having a mare as a euphemism for Shaky's just disemboweled somebody, figuratively speaking obviously.

I could always be wrong about that, however.


Yes, yes you could.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 17:32 - Jun 27 with 953 viewsDarran

Club Ownership / Directors on 17:15 - Jun 27 by Shaky

Well I must say I was under the growing impression that Darran has started using the term Shaky's having a mare as a euphemism for Shaky's just disemboweled somebody, figuratively speaking obviously.

I could always be wrong about that, however.


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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:29 - Jun 27 with 902 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 17:32 - Jun 27 by Darran

While spoil a habit of a lifetime.


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Club Ownership / Directors on 19:22 - Jun 27 with 876 viewsairedale

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Club Ownership / Directors on 23:06 - Jun 27 with 827 viewsPhil_S

Club Ownership / Directors on 08:55 - Jun 26 by Shaky

Are you stupid as well as mad psycho boy, or are you merely trying to put you own unique nutty spin on this thread?

Let's just recap the progress so far:

Pages 2-8 I provided analysis showing the glaring weakness in the Trust's current approach of sitting around waiting to be able to buy more shares to take the shareholding to 25%. I then proposed a practical workable real-world framework that would take the Trust to a 25% shareholding in a fair and structured way, while defending my strategy against only the few salient points that arose from the gang of 3 and ignoring the slew of irrelevant nonsense and snide personal abuse that formed the mainstay of their 'contributions'.

Phil then made his aherm judicious ruling and I was absent for more than a weekend, while pages 9-10 were substantially taken up with Spratty revisiting various grievances before Phil then took it upon himself to start taunting me.

The rest as they say is more recent history, but although it was maybe unwise of me to respond to PuerilePhil - given what had gone before - a little payback seemed a good idea at the time.


Yep you really got me with a picture of a bookcase

Check mate it was

Although for the record I probably believe it is your bookcase not that it makes any difference to my position on the subject!!

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Club Ownership / Directors on 23:51 - Jun 27 with 805 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 23:06 - Jun 27 by Phil_S

Yep you really got me with a picture of a bookcase

Check mate it was

Although for the record I probably believe it is your bookcase not that it makes any difference to my position on the subject!!

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The bookshelf below where the picture ends must have The Time Traveller's Wife and Back to the Future on it given that he left the City in 'early 2000 to short the Market' yet was in NY for a meeting a 'few months after 9/11' looking down at Ground Zero. Unless he moved the date of 9/11 that is.
Doubtless he'll make up some other bollocks now to explain the inconsistency of his dates.
It'll have the same degree of accuracy as all of his other little fantasies.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 07:52 - Jun 28 with 759 viewsUxbridge

Club Ownership / Directors on 23:51 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001

The bookshelf below where the picture ends must have The Time Traveller's Wife and Back to the Future on it given that he left the City in 'early 2000 to short the Market' yet was in NY for a meeting a 'few months after 9/11' looking down at Ground Zero. Unless he moved the date of 9/11 that is.
Doubtless he'll make up some other bollocks now to explain the inconsistency of his dates.
It'll have the same degree of accuracy as all of his other little fantasies.


Probably just over there advising one of his select band of clients.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 09:42 - Jun 28 with 732 viewsMusical_Swan

Club Ownership / Directors on 07:52 - Jun 28 by Uxbridge

Probably just over there advising one of his select band of clients.


Or had a gig!?

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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:42 - Jun 28 with 685 viewsPhil_S

Club Ownership / Directors on 07:52 - Jun 28 by Uxbridge

Probably just over there advising one of his select band of clients.


He comes out of retirement when people want their lives saved... (in a business sense of course)

Still marvelling at how this thread has managed to get to almost 20 pages and most of it totally ireelevant

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Club Ownership / Directors on 15:14 - Jun 28 with 652 viewsPhil_S

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Club Ownership / Directors on 15:49 - Jun 28 with 635 viewsDavillin

O.K., I admit it, I'm trying for first post on page 20.

I don't care. I'm old. I don't have to.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 15:50 - Jun 28 with 634 viewsDavillin

Club Ownership / Directors on 15:49 - Jun 28 by Davillin

O.K., I admit it, I'm trying for first post on page 20.


Missed it, dagnabit.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 15:51 - Jun 28 with 632 viewsPhil_S

Club Ownership / Directors on 15:50 - Jun 28 by Davillin

Missed it, dagnabit.


Attention seeker... ;-)

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