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Club Ownership / Directors 19:14 - Jun 15 with 32945 viewsPhil_S

There are a few questions floating around the various websites about Swans directors and their shareholdings

We have 9 directors in total who are

Huw Jenkins
Leigh Dineen
Huw Cooze (Trust representative)
John Van Zweden
Steve Penney
Don Keefe
Gwilym Joseph MBE
Martin Morgan
Brian Katzen

We also have two associate directors in David Morgan and Will Morris - these are both non executive positions

Of these 9, 3 of them - Gwilyn, Don and Steve own no shares in the club with the share ownership made up as follows

Martin Morgan 225,000 shares
Brian Katzen 200,000 shares
Swansea City Supporters Trust 200,000 shares
Huw Jenkins 125,000 shares
Robert Davies 100,000 shares
Leigh Dineen 50,000 shares
John Van Zweden 50,000 shares

(Many of these shares are not listed to the individual but businesses associated to them but I have used individual names for ease)

Overall share issue is 950,000 shares





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Club Ownership / Directors on 22:57 - Jun 26 with 889 viewspencoedjack

Club Ownership / Directors on 22:41 - Jun 26 by londonlisa2001

haven't been there for ages (although many many many years ago I worked in that building).

decided long ago that the best biscuits / cakes are in the law firms. Was in the Eversheds building this week and they had lovely cakes, although difficult to beat the Gherkin - Konditor & Cook cakes all round :-)


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Club Ownership / Directors on 22:59 - Jun 26 with 887 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 22:57 - Jun 26 by pencoedjack

Lisa you ever like a bit of rough ?



biscuits or cakes ;-)
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Club Ownership / Directors on 23:01 - Jun 26 with 880 viewspencoedjack

Club Ownership / Directors on 22:59 - Jun 26 by londonlisa2001

biscuits or cakes ;-)


Half a lager and a bag of crisps .... no Sushi and champers sorry
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Club Ownership / Directors on 23:05 - Jun 26 with 873 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 23:01 - Jun 26 by pencoedjack

Half a lager and a bag of crisps .... no Sushi and champers sorry


ha ha - pint of lager and some dry roasted and you never know !! 'You can take the girl out of Swansea ......' etc ;-)
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Club Ownership / Directors on 23:07 - Jun 26 with 867 viewspencoedjack

Club Ownership / Directors on 23:05 - Jun 26 by londonlisa2001

ha ha - pint of lager and some dry roasted and you never know !! 'You can take the girl out of Swansea ......' etc ;-)


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Club Ownership / Directors on 09:10 - Jun 27 with 803 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 21:46 - Jun 26 by jackonicko

Oddly, I was in 2 meetings with GS representatives today. All 3 of the GS people referred to themselves as Goldmans. Repeatedly.

Should I tell them they don't know who they work for? Perhaps they should quit, or "pull their capital out" as they call it in the trade.


Oh I see, you're saying it is a London thing? Because in NY both the Times' DealBook section I quoted from earlier which describes itself as "a financial news service reporting on mergers, acquisitions, venture capital and hedge funds" and the Wall Street Journal refer to the firm as Goldman.

See for example:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB125107135585052521

Goldman's Trading Tips Reward Its Biggest Clients
". . .research-department employees at Goldman"
". . . Every week, Goldman analysts offer stock tips "
". . .Some Goldman traders"
". . .When I joined Goldman"

But no, of course it is not a London thing because the FT also knows the score:

"A high-speed retreat keeps Goldman out of a tangle"
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/90d700ee-b9b9-11e3-a3ef-00144feabdc0.html#axzz35ooHhjfS

What is happening here is confusion because Goldman has many things:
* Goldman's Head of Research
* Goldman's offices
* Goldman's biscuit supply contract
* Etc.

People on the periphery hear the 's and make incorrect assumptions about the name. In fact it is a tell tale sign of outsiders that people on the inside tend to snigger about.

God bless you for elbowing your way to the front of the line for the firing squad again, Mr Calculator.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 12:05 - Jun 27 with 750 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 09:10 - Jun 27 by Shaky

Oh I see, you're saying it is a London thing? Because in NY both the Times' DealBook section I quoted from earlier which describes itself as "a financial news service reporting on mergers, acquisitions, venture capital and hedge funds" and the Wall Street Journal refer to the firm as Goldman.

See for example:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB125107135585052521

Goldman's Trading Tips Reward Its Biggest Clients
". . .research-department employees at Goldman"
". . . Every week, Goldman analysts offer stock tips "
". . .Some Goldman traders"
". . .When I joined Goldman"

But no, of course it is not a London thing because the FT also knows the score:

"A high-speed retreat keeps Goldman out of a tangle"
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/90d700ee-b9b9-11e3-a3ef-00144feabdc0.html#axzz35ooHhjfS

What is happening here is confusion because Goldman has many things:
* Goldman's Head of Research
* Goldman's offices
* Goldman's biscuit supply contract
* Etc.

People on the periphery hear the 's and make incorrect assumptions about the name. In fact it is a tell tale sign of outsiders that people on the inside tend to snigger about.

God bless you for elbowing your way to the front of the line for the firing squad again, Mr Calculator.
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No Shaky,

what's happening here is not a misheard apostrophe - we all know the firm's actual name.

What's happening here is that two people are talking from experience and one person is reading stuff in papers and on the internet and pretending and is then getting increasingly wound-up by getting found out.

Only one person here getting sniggered at.

btw - I notice that you don't join in with any part of a conversation that you can't look up - why not type 'who does the best cakes in the City' into google and see what comes up - you can contribute to that bit then as well - well, unless it says Greggs ;-)
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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:11 - Jun 27 with 713 viewsexiledclaseboy

Goldman's or Goldmans? Well seeing as the firm is called "Goldman Sachs" it would seem logical to shorten it to Goldman (unless you're from Swansea obviously where we tend to add "s" to the end of a lot of words unnecessarily) and obviously when talking about possessives you'd add an apostrophe e.g. Goldman's headquarters.

So on balance and with a heavy heart I declare Shaky the winner. End the thread. Please god end the thread.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:16 - Jun 27 with 704 viewsWarwickHunt

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:11 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

Goldman's or Goldmans? Well seeing as the firm is called "Goldman Sachs" it would seem logical to shorten it to Goldman (unless you're from Swansea obviously where we tend to add "s" to the end of a lot of words unnecessarily) and obviously when talking about possessives you'd add an apostrophe e.g. Goldman's headquarters.

So on balance and with a heavy heart I declare Shaky the winner. End the thread. Please god end the thread.


This is a classic, mun.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:21 - Jun 27 with 692 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:11 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

Goldman's or Goldmans? Well seeing as the firm is called "Goldman Sachs" it would seem logical to shorten it to Goldman (unless you're from Swansea obviously where we tend to add "s" to the end of a lot of words unnecessarily) and obviously when talking about possessives you'd add an apostrophe e.g. Goldman's headquarters.

So on balance and with a heavy heart I declare Shaky the winner. End the thread. Please god end the thread.


OK - will tell all the people that work there that they're wrong. Oh and all the people that work with them on a regular basis that they're wrong as well. The people that have looked them up on the internet are correct.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:23 - Jun 27 with 687 viewsDarran

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:11 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

Goldman's or Goldmans? Well seeing as the firm is called "Goldman Sachs" it would seem logical to shorten it to Goldman (unless you're from Swansea obviously where we tend to add "s" to the end of a lot of words unnecessarily) and obviously when talking about possessives you'd add an apostrophe e.g. Goldman's headquarters.

So on balance and with a heavy heart I declare Shaky the winner. End the thread. Please god end the thread.


Shouldn't that be God with a capital G?

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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:31 - Jun 27 with 679 viewsexiledclaseboy

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:21 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001

OK - will tell all the people that work there that they're wrong. Oh and all the people that work with them on a regular basis that they're wrong as well. The people that have looked them up on the internet are correct.


I wouldn't deign to tell anyone that they're right or wrong I'm just saying that grammatically Shaky's view is more logical. It may well be that when writing people refer to it correctly as Goldman/Goldman's but during informal speech they talk about "Goldmans" and pluralise it for some reason. Having had absolutely no dealings with said firm in any capacity I speak from a position of complete neutrality.

As an interesting aside I've just noticed that typing "Goldmans" creates a red line under the word whereas Goldman and Goldman's do not attract such a line. So spellchecker is leaning towards Shaky as well. This is far from definitive proof of anything of course as spellcheckers can have their own idiosyncrasies. But indicative perhaps.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:33 - Jun 27 with 676 viewsswancity

Shaky, dont let them deter you. Its clear to all that you are very knowledgeable. You are the best know it all on planetswans since Dangermouse all those years ago. Keep it up.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:40 - Jun 27 with 657 viewsexiledclaseboy

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:23 - Jun 27 by Darran

Shouldn't that be God with a capital G?


In that context probably yes. Assuming you consider it to be a proper noun.

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Club Ownership / Directors (n/t) on 13:41 - Jun 27 with 656 viewsJoe_bradshaw


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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:47 - Jun 27 with 652 viewsDarran

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:40 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

In that context probably yes. Assuming you consider it to be a proper noun.



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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:49 - Jun 27 with 649 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:31 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

I wouldn't deign to tell anyone that they're right or wrong I'm just saying that grammatically Shaky's view is more logical. It may well be that when writing people refer to it correctly as Goldman/Goldman's but during informal speech they talk about "Goldmans" and pluralise it for some reason. Having had absolutely no dealings with said firm in any capacity I speak from a position of complete neutrality.

As an interesting aside I've just noticed that typing "Goldmans" creates a red line under the word whereas Goldman and Goldman's do not attract such a line. So spellchecker is leaning towards Shaky as well. This is far from definitive proof of anything of course as spellcheckers can have their own idiosyncrasies. But indicative perhaps.


Think of Garry Monk and the fact that the people who know him well all call him Monks. Sort of a nickname, indicating familiarity - I'm sure that the internet & spell checkers would call him Monk though and put a red line through Monks - the uninitiated may think therefore that the people calling him Monks are the ones who don't know his actual name - perhaps they don't have the internet?


Shaky also has had absolutely no dealings with them in any capacity whatsoever either, so I wouldn't let that stop you.

He obviously didn't come across them in his time working in M&S (oh, sorry, that should be M&A shouldn't it - those pesky letters are so close together on the keyboard).
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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:10 - Jun 27 with 611 viewsexiledclaseboy

If they're referring to it informally as a nickname thing, which I agree makes complete sense, it's still far more likely to be Goldman's as opposed to Goldmans.

PS - spellchecker is fine with Monks as it's the plural of Monk. Spellcheckers aren't big on context.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:19 - Jun 27 with 595 viewsjackonicko

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:10 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

If they're referring to it informally as a nickname thing, which I agree makes complete sense, it's still far more likely to be Goldman's as opposed to Goldmans.

PS - spellchecker is fine with Monks as it's the plural of Monk. Spellcheckers aren't big on context.


Warwick will be along in a moment to criticise that possessive apostrophe. Goldman's ... what?

On that note, I'm out.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:20 - Jun 27 with 594 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:10 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

If they're referring to it informally as a nickname thing, which I agree makes complete sense, it's still far more likely to be Goldman's as opposed to Goldmans.

PS - spellchecker is fine with Monks as it's the plural of Monk. Spellcheckers aren't big on context.


whatever.

Anyway, this unending series of conference calls that I've been sat on all week is about to come to an end so rather than look at the internet while listening to lawyers droning on, I'm going to go and do something else. Shame - it's great fun watching Shaky scrabbling around for internet articles.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:23 - Jun 27 with 590 viewsWarwickHunt

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:40 - Jun 27 by exiledclaseboy

In that context probably yes. Assuming you consider it to be a proper noun.


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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:25 - Jun 27 with 586 viewsDarran

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:23 - Jun 27 by WarwickHunt

Beat me to it. Well batted, Andrew.


He was talking about the man upstairs piss off

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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:28 - Jun 27 with 578 viewsWarwickHunt

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:25 - Jun 27 by Darran

He was talking about the man upstairs piss off


Yes, I gathered.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:32 - Jun 27 with 574 viewsDarran

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:28 - Jun 27 by WarwickHunt

Yes, I gathered.


C*ntpipe quilt.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:37 - Jun 27 with 566 viewsWarwickHunt

Club Ownership / Directors on 14:32 - Jun 27 by Darran

C*ntpipe quilt.


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