| FLEETWOOD 21:06 - Mar 27 with 10102 views | izzitme |
I want to go to Fleetwood on Saturday with 3 family members.
I am now informed that this game has become "All ticket" for Dale fans with a c1400 allocation.
So tomorrow early doors I will make my way to the ticket office at Dale, but I'm lead to believe that I will have little chance?
If this remains true, then shame on Fleetwood and we need to chant "NON-LEAGUE, and you know you are".
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| FLEETWOOD on 20:42 - Mar 28 with 1424 views | TVOS1907 |
| FLEETWOOD on 20:39 - Mar 28 by 442Dale |
There can be no reason why programme sales for each match are not recorded, not only to keep accurate records, but to track trends against different teams to assist planning for selling them.
eg. We sold 400 programmes v Torquay and this means we only need four programme sellers around the ground and only one for away fans. That's obviously only an example, but given a season's worth of figures there should be easily identifiable matches where small savings can be made in programme sellers alone.
The figures would also indicate the games when extra programmes are needed to be ordered. eg.no.2: we played Oldham twice at home in L1. The first year's sales figures would assist in the decision making process for how many to order for the second year's game.
Now if these figures are there than I fully expect that anyone at the club can now look at these and analyse exactly how many were sold during the period that's been discussed. If these figures aren't available for sales per game, which surely can't be the case, then it's pretty impossible to find out how many were sold over a season or plan effectively as mentioned above. [Post edited 28 Mar 2014 20:44]
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I agree! |  |
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| FLEETWOOD on 20:47 - Mar 28 with 1408 views | nordenblue |
| FLEETWOOD on 20:42 - Mar 28 by TVOS1907 |
I agree! |
Have you figured out how to count properly yet anyway,thats more important?  | | | |
| FLEETWOOD on 20:53 - Mar 28 with 1388 views | TVOS1907 |
| FLEETWOOD on 20:47 - Mar 28 by nordenblue |
Have you figured out how to count properly yet anyway,thats more important? |
Not yet. I'm working on it though. | |
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| FLEETWOOD on 21:10 - Mar 28 with 1343 views | TalkingSutty |
| FLEETWOOD on 20:39 - Mar 28 by 442Dale |
There can be no reason why programme sales for each match are not recorded, not only to keep accurate records, but to track trends against different teams to assist planning for selling them.
eg. We sold 400 programmes v Torquay and this means we only need four programme sellers around the ground and only one for away fans. That's obviously only an example, but given a season's worth of figures there should be easily identifiable matches where small savings can be made in programme sellers alone.
The figures would also indicate the games when extra programmes are needed to be ordered. eg.no.2: we played Oldham twice at home in L1. The first year's sales figures would assist in the decision making process for how many to order for the second year's game.
Now if these figures are there than I fully expect that anyone at the club can now look at these and analyse exactly how many were sold during the period that's been discussed. If these figures aren't available for sales per game, which surely can't be the case, then it's pretty impossible to find out how many were sold over a season or plan effectively as mentioned above. [Post edited 28 Mar 2014 20:44]
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Now that's just common sense, pack it in. |  | | |
| FLEETWOOD on 21:14 - Mar 28 with 1328 views | R17ALE |
| FLEETWOOD on 20:39 - Mar 28 by 442Dale |
There can be no reason why programme sales for each match are not recorded, not only to keep accurate records, but to track trends against different teams to assist planning for selling them.
eg. We sold 400 programmes v Torquay and this means we only need four programme sellers around the ground and only one for away fans. That's obviously only an example, but given a season's worth of figures there should be easily identifiable matches where small savings can be made in programme sellers alone.
The figures would also indicate the games when extra programmes are needed to be ordered. eg.no.2: we played Oldham twice at home in L1. The first year's sales figures would assist in the decision making process for how many to order for the second year's game.
Now if these figures are there than I fully expect that anyone at the club can now look at these and analyse exactly how many were sold during the period that's been discussed. If these figures aren't available for sales per game, which surely can't be the case, then it's pretty impossible to find out how many were sold over a season or plan effectively as mentioned above. [Post edited 28 Mar 2014 20:44]
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They will be recorded, but the data might not be analysed efficiently.
Each Monday a count up of unsold programmes will reveal how many were sold. Lets imagine that a Saturday home match v Exeter draws a crowd of 2,451. Programme sales are 712. That tells us that one in every 3.44 people buy a programme when Exeter are a Saturday visitor. But, it still boils down to accurate guess the gate predictions from the club.
Also, imagine a night match v Wycombe might produce a crowd of 2,093. Programme sales might be 520 which means one in every 4.025 people buy a programme. The Portsmouth gate of 2700ish may have produced sales of 750 which equals 3.6.
This tells us that Portsmouth fans are big on buying programmes.
To accumulate a percentage figure for each visitor based on Saturday and Tuesday matches requires a 5 year plan and a lot of educated crowd numbers guesswork. My guess is that programme ordering and sales has been as efficient and accurate as always, but the accounting of the sales has been very mis-leading and has falsely added around £20,000 to the shop sales figure, detracting from the good work of others. Whether this has been done on purpose to mask the elephant in the room, I've no idea.
But the top and bottom of it is that around £20,000 has vanished from one column, and nobody is certain where it has gone. I'm not suggesting fraud, but surely an internal enquiry is in order. |  |
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| FLEETWOOD on 21:40 - Mar 28 with 1282 views | nordenblue |
You'd be no good working within the club nowadays with accurate figures and forecasts like that,a very good clear explanation of predicted sales though to us mere thespians razz | | | |
| FLEETWOOD on 22:16 - Mar 28 with 1235 views | TTNYear |
Razz is just bitter since he's left tbf |  |
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| FLEETWOOD on 10:11 - Mar 29 with 1072 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| FLEETWOOD on 21:38 - Mar 27 by judd |
Grow some brown teeth, rub yourself in cod liver oil and turn up at the home end.
Voila. |
Done what you said. Couldn't find a viola though so I have taken my old recorder instead. [Post edited 29 Mar 2014 10:13]
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| FLEETWOOD on 11:53 - Mar 29 with 1009 views | 49thseason |
| FLEETWOOD on 21:14 - Mar 28 by R17ALE |
They will be recorded, but the data might not be analysed efficiently.
Each Monday a count up of unsold programmes will reveal how many were sold. Lets imagine that a Saturday home match v Exeter draws a crowd of 2,451. Programme sales are 712. That tells us that one in every 3.44 people buy a programme when Exeter are a Saturday visitor. But, it still boils down to accurate guess the gate predictions from the club.
Also, imagine a night match v Wycombe might produce a crowd of 2,093. Programme sales might be 520 which means one in every 4.025 people buy a programme. The Portsmouth gate of 2700ish may have produced sales of 750 which equals 3.6.
This tells us that Portsmouth fans are big on buying programmes.
To accumulate a percentage figure for each visitor based on Saturday and Tuesday matches requires a 5 year plan and a lot of educated crowd numbers guesswork. My guess is that programme ordering and sales has been as efficient and accurate as always, but the accounting of the sales has been very mis-leading and has falsely added around £20,000 to the shop sales figure, detracting from the good work of others. Whether this has been done on purpose to mask the elephant in the room, I've no idea.
But the top and bottom of it is that around £20,000 has vanished from one column, and nobody is certain where it has gone. I'm not suggesting fraud, but surely an internal enquiry is in order. |
Razz, I dont think there is any point in getting overly technical about the programme, other than seeing if the print cost can be reduced or the advertising increased.
The problem is undoubtedly the shop..... I dont see that there is any need for a bricks and mortar physical shop in 2014 - put the whole thing online and simply use the space for selling tickets and a few matchday items such as scarves and kids shirts. If there are staff at the shop who cannot be employed packing and shipping rather than standing around waiting for a customer 5 days a week then its time for a rethink and make some savings on wages that could be put against some promotion of a proper online shop rather that the disgrace that is currently online.
Another idea would be to open a pop-up shop in the town centre for say 6 weeks up to Christmas selling shirts, calendars, Christmas cards etc. Its not as if there aren't any empty shops we could utilise! |  | | |
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