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Reply | Surgery
at 21:55 11 Mar 2025
RangersDave, is it just the meniscus you've torn or have you torn cartilage as well? |
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Reply | The Boro Match thread.
at 21:49 11 Mar 2025
It's really come to something when we're expecting our keeper to score! |
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Reply | Saitos miss
at 21:47 11 Mar 2025
If anyone thinks that Saito's miss was bad they should take a look at Sinclair Armstrong's header at Sheffield United. |
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Reply | The Boro Match thread.
at 21:44 11 Mar 2025
Another limp performance and defeat. This team hit the beach as soon as it reached mid-table. Some players appear to be under the illusion that our Championship status for next season is assured. With Derby and Luton both winning, the gap to the bottom 3 is down to 9 points. This team needs to start picking up points soon (draws even) or it could see itself dragged back into a relegation battle. |
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Reply | The Boro Match thread.
at 21:24 11 Mar 2025
3-2 Wednesday now. That's one hell of a comeback. Shame Fat Frank's boys aren't doing likewise. |
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Reply | Surgery
at 13:46 11 Mar 2025
Yes, doing regular physio for at least a year is super important. Done right it'll improve flexibility, range and strength. Increasing leg muscle strength (particularly the thighs) will relieve some of the burden of lateral movement from the knee, allowing it to heal.
My consultant was very honest about the importance of physiotherapy. He told me that the op is pointless if I don't commit to physio. One goes hand-in-hand with the other.
Personally, I went to the hospital gym every morning, 6 days a week, for 3 years. There I had access to the physios who would recalibrate my programme as required. A bit overboard perhaps but 20 years later my knee is as strong as an ox with no side effects whatsoever. Compare this with another chap who I would see at post-op consultations. He was operated on by the same surgeon but "didn't have time for physio". Consequently, his knee was struggling. Make of that what you will. [Post edited 11 Mar 21:53]
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Reply | Alfie Lloyd
at 19:23 10 Mar 2025
The modern football fan is a funny creature. 21 is no longer considered young and 30 is prehistoric! |
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Reply | Surgery
at 19:18 10 Mar 2025
Unless you have thighs the size of tree trunks, it's unlikely you'll be out and about within 24 hours.
Before I share my thoughts, there is one caveat. My ops were nearly 20 years ago. Things may have moved on since then so it's always worth checking the options with your consultant. Thankfully you're being sent to a private hospital so you should, in theory, get first class care.
The road ahead depends on the extent of the damage. With respect to the meniscus, this depends on how much they remove. The key is that they don't remove it all. There needs to be something left in order for it to grow back. Glucosamine helps promote growth. Every morning and night I drank a glass of orange juice with added glucosamine. My consultant was surprised at how this accelerated growth.
With respect to the cartilage, it depends on whether it is partially torn (i.e. it's still connected), or completely ruptured. If it's torn there's a chance that the existing cartilage can be repaired. If ruptured, then it'll need rebuilding. Typically this is done with a hamstring.
After the op, you'll need to rest for at least a week or two then you can move about on crutches. I found that in this fortnight my leg quickly lost a lot of muscle mass. Consequently, Brian's tip of pre-hab is a good one. Strong thighs in particular will compensate for the lack of cartilage in controlling lateral (side-to-side) movement. In addition, if the surgeon uses a hamstring to graft a cartilage then the hamstrings in the donor leg will be weakened and therefore require strengthening.
Whilst you should be able to return to normal life fairly quickly (albeit initially on crutches), persisting with the re-hab will be crucial to your long-term health. The op alone is not a miracle cure. At first this will start with gentle physio to promote flexibility and range. Once this improves, you can step up to resistance training and gentle exercise. I found that anything involving forward motion (e.g. cycling) was fine. Lateral movement of the knees was a no-no as was contact sport. Swimming front crawl was especially beneficial as the buoyancy of the water removes any strain on the knee.
As pushing car pedals involves no lateral movement, I found I was able to return to driving pretty soon after the op. The uncomfortable part is getting in and out of the car without aggravating the knee. Once you're in, you're good to go.
Best of luck with your journey, Dave. |
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Reply | Alfie Lloyd
at 18:39 10 Mar 2025
Kelman has scored 29 goals in 145 appearances in Leagues 1 and 2. That's a goal every 5 games. I'd hardly call that scoring with aplomb. However, I will concede that his ratio has improved this season to 1 every 3.5 games. Still not prolific for League 1 but he is improving.
As I've said before, given the paucity of options we currently have up front, I wouldn't be against him being given an opportunity next season. However, equally I'd understand if QPR decide to let him go. |
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Reply | Alfie Lloyd
at 18:30 10 Mar 2025
The idea that the National League is not the answer. That's the third time you've mentioned this even though no one has proposed sending him on loan there.
If you read posts thoroughly and took time to digest what is being said you'd stand a better chance of not crossing your wires. |
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Reply | Alfie Lloyd
at 14:40 10 Mar 2025
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
Earlier in the conversation another poster mentioned that Alfie has 50 senior appearances to date, 21 of which were in the National League (back in 2022-23). Somehow, you've translated that to a call for Alfie to go back on loan there.
No one has suggested that, no one is suggesting that, and for you to even think that anyone is suggesting that is laughable. [Post edited 10 Mar 14:45]
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Reply | Saitos miss
at 13:50 10 Mar 2025
No, there was defender in the way who would have cleared the ball. Saito gets in front of the defender with the late run but sadly is unable to get a strong enough connection on the ball with his head. |
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Reply | Alfie Lloyd
at 13:42 10 Mar 2025
I agree that the National League is a totally different proposition to the Championship. That's why I consider Lloyd inexperienced.
Comparisons with Kelman are inappropriate. Kelman has been at QPR since 2020 but is yet to make the Championship grade. He's spent the majority of that time on loan to lower league clubs. I would understand if QPR decide to let him go.
Lloyd, on the other hand, has just broken into the QPR first team squad. He's made 25 Championship appearances this season, scoring 2 goals. Granted, he's no Michael Owen but overall he's acquitted himself reasonably well. I think it would be premature to call time on his fledgling QPR career.
Remember, it's a squad game. Whilst Alfie is still raw, his pace and enthusiasm does provide an interesting option from the bench. If he can learn to compose himself, he could prove to be a useful player. [Post edited 10 Mar 13:47]
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Reply | Disappointed
at 13:18 10 Mar 2025
Au contraire. If you read the OP's entire paragraph (as opposed to focusing on just the first sentence) then the obvious conclusion is that the players are limited and there's only so much that MC (or indeed any manager) can get out of them.
As the time-honoured saying goes, a manager is only as good as his players. |
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Reply | Disappointed
at 13:14 10 Mar 2025
Either way, it demonstrates a propensity by some on this board to react too quickly. To be clear, not a criticism of you, just highlighting how easy it is to slip.
For me the Curbishley analogy reinforces the OP's point and demonstrates how perception alters reactions. Clive and the OP are broadly making the same point (that the manager isn't the problem) yet one gets umpteen up arrows, the other umpteen down arrows. It's as if some folk are paying more attention to who's talking rather than what's being said. |
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Reply | Alfie Lloyd
at 13:03 10 Mar 2025
21 is hardly old and 50 senior games (21 in the National League and most of the rest coming on as a sub) doesn't exactly scream experience. The point of the loan would be to give him that experience of regular game time so he can hone his craft. [Post edited 10 Mar 13:05]
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Reply | No. 10
at 13:01 10 Mar 2025
There's a clutch of number 10s at the club. It's the number 9 shirt that has felt retired for some years now. |
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