| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? 17:22 - Feb 11 with 27110 views | NorthantsHoop |
Wrong manager, this is not working, trouble is we lumbered ourselves with a 3 year contract and his coaching team. [Post edited 11 Feb 2023 19:01]
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| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 14:04 - Feb 12 with 2587 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 09:51 - Feb 12 by BazzaInTheLoft |
The legislation is there to read and the Les interview is there to listen to.
If it makes you feel better to believe that FFP doesn't rule over all club decision right now, including whether NC remains in the post then knock yourself out. |
Anti-murder legislation is also there for everyone to read but it doesn't mean that we're all out to kill someone. As for Les' interview, it's a catalogue of excuses.
QPRD is spot on; Accounts are published in arrears and you have no oversight of the contracts or figures so you're in no position to lecture with authority on the subject. You're just taking the board at face value and running with it. The same board who tried to convince the world that QPR weren't in breach of FFP because the rule it had broken was removed years after QPR broke it.
Even assuming that your speculation is correct, you still haven't addressed the key point highlighted by several users on this thread. Why do other clubs who are subject to the same FFP constraints manage to legally generate headroom and not QPR? If QPR is hanging on the FFP precipice then this is an indictment of how the board runs the club, and it shouldn't then be allowed to reverse engineer FFP to cover its failings. |  | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 14:08 - Feb 12 with 2571 views | THEBUSH |
I dont want Criitchley sacked, but would have preferred Ainsworth to have been appointed.
If Critchley was sacked, which he wont be, Les Ferdinand should resign.
Watching the Millwall game yesterday, who are fcuking horrible to watch, they played to their strengths
Not blaming Critchley, but Ive no idea what our strengths are, apart from losing. |  | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 15:49 - Feb 12 with 2418 views | NorthantsHoop |
NC is a bit like those applicants who look very good on paper for your job, but you soon realise he could be more of a problem than the under performing team he has taken on, and you spend the rest of their tenure discussing with HR how to legally get rid of them or hope they find another job. Really 10 games and no visible improvement not really good enough is it. To be honest watching all the home games from the loft end this season it has all been a bit disappointing, Beale got lucky the season was in start up mode, his turning point game was Watford away. Warburton in his early tenure in 2019 had Wigan at home, changed formation to a back 3 and it clicked. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 16:24 - Feb 12 with 2363 views | essextaxiboy |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 15:49 - Feb 12 by NorthantsHoop |
NC is a bit like those applicants who look very good on paper for your job, but you soon realise he could be more of a problem than the under performing team he has taken on, and you spend the rest of their tenure discussing with HR how to legally get rid of them or hope they find another job. Really 10 games and no visible improvement not really good enough is it. To be honest watching all the home games from the loft end this season it has all been a bit disappointing, Beale got lucky the season was in start up mode, his turning point game was Watford away. Warburton in his early tenure in 2019 had Wigan at home, changed formation to a back 3 and it clicked. |
3 at the back would suit as now , but we cant get JCS fit .
Martin and Lowe with Chair behind , Armstrong to come on later |  | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 16:31 - Feb 12 with 2322 views | LongsufferingR |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 16:24 - Feb 12 by essextaxiboy |
3 at the back would suit as now , but we cant get JCS fit .
Martin and Lowe with Chair behind , Armstrong to come on later |
I agree but preferably not with all three marking the same forward as with those two embarrassing goals yesterday. |  | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 17:59 - Feb 13 with 2112 views | Logman |
Good interview from NC on the Offish today. Sounds a little bit more resolute. If we can only score first tomorrow I think we can possibly get something out of the game. |  | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 18:17 - Feb 13 with 2072 views | stanistheman |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 23:40 - Feb 11 by Trom |
I, seemingly against the flow of opinion, quite like what Critchley has to say. He hasn't been ducking calling the players to account when they've not put the effort in. He's in a tricky position with a team reliant on loanees, injuries, and desperately short of firepower. I can see him turning it around in the long run. We were hugely reliant on Willock in the earlier part of the season and with him losing all form and injury prone it puts us in a tricky position regardless of who the manager is. |
The problem is not what he says pre and post match. It’s the work he does to prepare the team and what he says or does during the matches.
So far he had managed to pick up 7 or 8 points from 9 matches.
Sure if he keeps this rate up we could reach the high 40s or even reach 50.
Critchley says he needs time and a pre season, but really needs to speed things up now.
I think he will get time, but only because we can’t really afford to sack him and there is little chance of Ferdinand doing this anyway as it would be admitting he got it wrong in the first place. | | | |
| Crithley Not Doing It Is He? on 18:23 - Feb 13 with 2035 views | stanistheman |
| Crithley Not Doing It Is He? on 20:54 - Feb 11 by DejR_vu |
Dickie’s a liability. I’d be interested to see some stats on goals conceded when he plays versus when he doesn’t. |
He hasn’t had a good season, but was at his best as part of a back 3.
Injuries to our CBs don’t help matters and narrow down the options available to Critchley if he wanted to change formation.
I wouldn’t mind adding Kakay or Gubbins to the side and switch to a 3-5-2/5-3-2. Something has to change. It’s what Warburton did 3 seasons ago just before Johansen and Austin joined on loan snd results improved dramatically. | | | |
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| Crithley Not Doing It Is He? on 18:28 - Feb 13 with 1982 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Crithley Not Doing It Is He? on 22:23 - Feb 11 by Monkey_Roots |
You’re always the smartest fella in the room, eh? |
I wouldn't say that, but I try, darling! ;-) |  |
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| Crithley Not Doing It Is He? on 18:37 - Feb 13 with 1999 views | QPR_Jim |
| Crithley Not Doing It Is He? on 18:23 - Feb 13 by stanistheman |
He hasn’t had a good season, but was at his best as part of a back 3.
Injuries to our CBs don’t help matters and narrow down the options available to Critchley if he wanted to change formation.
I wouldn’t mind adding Kakay or Gubbins to the side and switch to a 3-5-2/5-3-2. Something has to change. It’s what Warburton did 3 seasons ago just before Johansen and Austin joined on loan snd results improved dramatically. |
After a year of 3 at the back we seemed to be a bit found out and struggled to create chances and win matches. |  | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 19:35 - Feb 13 with 1875 views | daveB |
I think if he'd come in last summer he'd have done quite well, even if he came in at the end of the season could have been a good fit but for what it turns out we need this season it's looking worse by the day
To give him a 3 and a half year deal looks bonkers and is gonna be expensive for us when we have to sack him which looks pretty inevitable if he doesn't get a result soon.
I think they'll give him the next 3 games.
Agree with a few others, and it's pure hindsight but I wish we'd gone for Ainsworth
When he goes, i think Les needs to as well at the same point, needs some fresh faces and new ideas and a new start [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 19:36]
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| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 20:14 - Feb 13 with 1753 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 19:35 - Feb 13 by daveB |
I think if he'd come in last summer he'd have done quite well, even if he came in at the end of the season could have been a good fit but for what it turns out we need this season it's looking worse by the day
To give him a 3 and a half year deal looks bonkers and is gonna be expensive for us when we have to sack him which looks pretty inevitable if he doesn't get a result soon.
I think they'll give him the next 3 games.
Agree with a few others, and it's pure hindsight but I wish we'd gone for Ainsworth
When he goes, i think Les needs to as well at the same point, needs some fresh faces and new ideas and a new start [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 19:36]
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You’d be bonkers not to demand a long contract from a club that averages 18 months a manager.
Don’t think it matters. In fact anything that’s a move towards longevity & stability is good with me. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:18]
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| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 20:51 - Feb 13 with 1678 views | PunteR |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 20:14 - Feb 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
You’d be bonkers not to demand a long contract from a club that averages 18 months a manager.
Don’t think it matters. In fact anything that’s a move towards longevity & stability is good with me. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:18]
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He was the cheap option wasnt he? . That doesnt sound like a move towards longevity & stability.
Buy cheap buy twice as the saying goes. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:52]
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| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:00 - Feb 13 with 1633 views | safcinpeace |
Reading this you do t seem to like your manager, I can sympathise we have had more than our share of abject failures at Sunderland in the recent past. Would you be happy if we beat you and that results in him being sacked.
I can think of a few times we have felt that way. It is an awful place to be in as a fan. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:01 - Feb 13 with 1628 views | daveB |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 20:14 - Feb 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
You’d be bonkers not to demand a long contract from a club that averages 18 months a manager.
Don’t think it matters. In fact anything that’s a move towards longevity & stability is good with me. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:18]
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doesn't mean you have to give in to it, we didn't with Warburton who had a rolliing year to year contract | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:02 - Feb 13 with 1620 views | daveB |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:00 - Feb 13 by safcinpeace |
Reading this you do t seem to like your manager, I can sympathise we have had more than our share of abject failures at Sunderland in the recent past. Would you be happy if we beat you and that results in him being sacked.
I can think of a few times we have felt that way. It is an awful place to be in as a fan. |
I'd rather we got the 4/5 wins we need then change it in the summer but I can't see us beating anyone at the moment | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:10 - Feb 13 with 1586 views | distortR |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 20:51 - Feb 13 by PunteR |
He was the cheap option wasnt he? . That doesnt sound like a move towards longevity & stability.
Buy cheap buy twice as the saying goes. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:52]
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I think he was available is probably more to the point. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:26 - Feb 13 with 1525 views | LongsufferingR |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:00 - Feb 13 by safcinpeace |
Reading this you do t seem to like your manager, I can sympathise we have had more than our share of abject failures at Sunderland in the recent past. Would you be happy if we beat you and that results in him being sacked.
I can think of a few times we have felt that way. It is an awful place to be in as a fan. |
Absolutely not. He's still got an awful lot to prove but it's far too early to change yet again. A lot of our fanbase still maintain a hard on for Neil Warnock hence the outpouring of man juice for him on here today and the sudden declarations that Huddersfield are 100% certain to stay up now. Did a great job for us 12 (yes 12) years ago but the constant fawning over him every time we hit a bad patch is getting embarrassing.
I'd much rather we won tomorrow and it sets us back on an even keel instead of hoping we lose. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:32 - Feb 13 with 1498 views | PunteR |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:10 - Feb 13 by distortR |
I think he was available is probably more to the point. |
Hmm... maybe ?
But that doesnt conjure up longevity & stability vibes. More of a stopgap. A three year stopgap. | |
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| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:44 - Feb 13 with 1440 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:01 - Feb 13 by daveB |
doesn't mean you have to give in to it, we didn't with Warburton who had a rolliing year to year contract |
Only after his two year one run out and the form was shit. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:44 - Feb 13 with 1441 views | QPR_Jim |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 20:51 - Feb 13 by PunteR |
He was the cheap option wasnt he? . That doesnt sound like a move towards longevity & stability.
Buy cheap buy twice as the saying goes. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:52]
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Can't understand that comment, he's got a similar background to Beale, has a similar approach to setting up his team, similar philosophy, he even took Beales old job at villa. It seemed like a sensible continuity appointment, if it was cheap that's a bonus not the motivation. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:51 - Feb 13 with 1407 views | daveB |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:44 - Feb 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Only after his two year one run out and the form was shit. |
even 2 years makes a lot more sense than 3 and a half. Just feels like a panic move because Beale walked away. Him going really shouldn't have been as big as deal as it has been
It's now left us in a hole that if it doesn't work out which is how it looks today they can't do anything about it which is crazy. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:55 - Feb 13 with 1396 views | distortR |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:32 - Feb 13 by PunteR |
Hmm... maybe ?
But that doesnt conjure up longevity & stability vibes. More of a stopgap. A three year stopgap. |
Well, we needed a manager, his pedigree in terms of uefa badges/blackpool is excellent. Who should we have gone for? Ainsworth, that would have been horrible if/when he failed, and personally, I think failure is pretty much a given this season with what's there to work with, given the mental frailty and lack of fight in so many of these fragile luvies. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:58 - Feb 13 with 1370 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:51 - Feb 13 by daveB |
even 2 years makes a lot more sense than 3 and a half. Just feels like a panic move because Beale walked away. Him going really shouldn't have been as big as deal as it has been
It's now left us in a hole that if it doesn't work out which is how it looks today they can't do anything about it which is crazy. |
I think I can understand a panic appointment when a manager leaves after 4 months.
Critchley is a proven coach / head coach. We shouldn’t be changing him anyway because this mess isn’t his fault IMO. | | | |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:59 - Feb 13 with 1369 views | PunteR |
| Critchley Not Doing It Is He? on 21:44 - Feb 13 by QPR_Jim |
Can't understand that comment, he's got a similar background to Beale, has a similar approach to setting up his team, similar philosophy, he even took Beales old job at villa. It seemed like a sensible continuity appointment, if it was cheap that's a bonus not the motivation. |
Yeh i agree with you to an extent , but if he was the cheaper option which is what ive read on here then its perfectly reasonable to question the motivation given we continually plead poverty. | |
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