2 Choices? 13:51 - Oct 18 with 2674 views | macclesfieldman | 1 - we win the next 2 home games and Clueless Idiot remains head coach Or 2 - we draw both games, fire head coach and get a proper Manager, I'm 100% in the option 2 camp | ![](/images/avatars/1885.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 14:46 - Oct 18 with 2608 views | bosh67 | To be honest if our clueless coach wins the next two games then he deserves to be redeemed for a bit longer. It would also show that NW has had an immediate effect. If we get 4 points from the next 2 games and he will live to fight another day. Get 3 or 2 points he will probably live to fight another day. Get 1 point and he may be in trouble. Get zero points and I think he will be on a win or go thing for the next game. I don't like to be on the back of a man trying his best and I think Chris is. I just don't think he is up to coaching and managing. I think it's just too much pressure on him. He clearly can't coach defending. | ![](/images/avatars/1510.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 15:10 - Oct 18 with 2576 views | Rangersw12 |
2 Choices? on 14:46 - Oct 18 by bosh67 | To be honest if our clueless coach wins the next two games then he deserves to be redeemed for a bit longer. It would also show that NW has had an immediate effect. If we get 4 points from the next 2 games and he will live to fight another day. Get 3 or 2 points he will probably live to fight another day. Get 1 point and he may be in trouble. Get zero points and I think he will be on a win or go thing for the next game. I don't like to be on the back of a man trying his best and I think Chris is. I just don't think he is up to coaching and managing. I think it's just too much pressure on him. He clearly can't coach defending. |
So if we lose both does this mean we can blame Warnock as well or will his effect only be taken into consideration when we win ? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 15:31 - Oct 18 with 2532 views | Lblock | It's four points or goodbye God I hope we get 6 as we really, really need them You can never ever hope for "just one more defeat" at this club as Bungles past record on that speaks for itself. I do however think this time they have at least given ultimatums out and about fcukin time!!! So for me it's two wins and Benny slips into the background as Warnock (whose appointment /current role I'm not a huge fan of) takes an ever increasing front of house position | ![](/images/avatars/4057.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 15:34 - Oct 18 with 2523 views | daveB | As a QPR fan I hope we win our next match regardless of who the latest scapegoat is, shocking what we have become with fans now wanting us to lose games so they can get a new manager, pathetic really. If we lose the games then he'll go and you can celebrate and wait for the next one to come in and we'll quickly find out that he's crap as well. Far too many people are in a massive panic to get back to the premier league where they will then moan about how crap it all is and they prefer the championship | ![](/images/avatars/1922.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 16:23 - Oct 18 with 2463 views | PinnerPaul |
2 Choices? on 15:34 - Oct 18 by daveB | As a QPR fan I hope we win our next match regardless of who the latest scapegoat is, shocking what we have become with fans now wanting us to lose games so they can get a new manager, pathetic really. If we lose the games then he'll go and you can celebrate and wait for the next one to come in and we'll quickly find out that he's crap as well. Far too many people are in a massive panic to get back to the premier league where they will then moan about how crap it all is and they prefer the championship |
Indeed Dave, only thing is if we get rid of Ramsay now, we can have the new man out by Xmas if has the temerity to lose 4 of his first 11 games in charge 3rd manager in for New Year, we can get 4th in for Easter and finish off the season with manager number 5 if we really get our act together! | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 16:26 - Oct 18 with 2460 views | Pommyhoop |
2 Choices? on 15:34 - Oct 18 by daveB | As a QPR fan I hope we win our next match regardless of who the latest scapegoat is, shocking what we have become with fans now wanting us to lose games so they can get a new manager, pathetic really. If we lose the games then he'll go and you can celebrate and wait for the next one to come in and we'll quickly find out that he's crap as well. Far too many people are in a massive panic to get back to the premier league where they will then moan about how crap it all is and they prefer the championship |
THIS ,THIS AND SO MUCH THIS. WE are fu'king embarresing . I dont know what its like in the real world back in Blighty with the die hards _ the season ticket holders and the loons who follow us to every corner of that Septic Isle but this MB makes me weep with embarrassment. F'cking poor show lads Very poor show.. | ![](/images/avatars/7010.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 16:34 - Oct 18 with 2429 views | macclesfieldman | Dave, if you read my post I said draw the next 2 games. I never want us to lose but i do want rid of the clueless clown. | ![](/images/avatars/1885.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 16:34 - Oct 18 with 2429 views | QPR_John |
2 Choices? on 15:10 - Oct 18 by Rangersw12 | So if we lose both does this mean we can blame Warnock as well or will his effect only be taken into consideration when we win ? |
If we lose our next two games the only conclusion is that Warnock has had no effect or has not had time to make an effect so of course Warnock would not be to blame. But if we win both games then it is possible he has had a positive effect. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) | Login to get fewer ads
2 Choices? on 16:36 - Oct 18 with 2423 views | PinnerPaul |
2 Choices? on 16:34 - Oct 18 by QPR_John | If we lose our next two games the only conclusion is that Warnock has had no effect or has not had time to make an effect so of course Warnock would not be to blame. But if we win both games then it is possible he has had a positive effect. |
Ah so Ramsey is in a lose/lose situation then! Win - Its down to Warnock Lose - Its not! Brilliant! | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 16:36 - Oct 18 with 2423 views | macclesfieldman | What a fool you are. CR has had 8 months in charge and must be a contender for our worst, he would certainly make the short list. | ![](/images/avatars/1885.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 16:41 - Oct 18 with 2408 views | QPR_John |
2 Choices? on 16:23 - Oct 18 by PinnerPaul | Indeed Dave, only thing is if we get rid of Ramsay now, we can have the new man out by Xmas if has the temerity to lose 4 of his first 11 games in charge 3rd manager in for New Year, we can get 4th in for Easter and finish off the season with manager number 5 if we really get our act together! |
Have to ask how long will you tolerate conceding two goals per game. We conceded 7 goals in the four games we won so had to score 11 (we actually scored 12 as we beat Rotherham by 2 goals) but you see my point. We will not be winning many more games if we have to score on average 2.75 goals per game to do so. It is not that we have only lost 4 games but more the goals needed to win the 4 we have which is the problem | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 16:45 - Oct 18 with 2394 views | QPR_John |
2 Choices? on 16:36 - Oct 18 by PinnerPaul | Ah so Ramsey is in a lose/lose situation then! Win - Its down to Warnock Lose - Its not! Brilliant! |
How can it be possibly down to Warnock if we lose the next two games at worse it would show he has made no difference and we are no further ahead. I did not say that if we win it is down to Warnock only that it is conceivable he has had a positive input to what goes on between games. [Post edited 18 Oct 2015 16:47]
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2 Choices? on 16:47 - Oct 18 with 2387 views | Pommyhoop | Warnock will sort out the defence and we will be in the top 10 in 2 weeks time ( Not 17th or under). We will steadily improve but still there will be calls to sack CR. It's what we do . #facedontfit. | ![](/images/avatars/7010.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 17:01 - Oct 18 with 2336 views | paulparker | he has had since February and we are still dog sh1t it doesn't matter how many games you give him its not going to work we are still going to be sh1t at the back , he is still going to play Karl fcukin henry and we will still play one up top should have gone after the Fulham debacle get rid | ![](/images/avatars/8151.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 17:07 - Oct 18 with 2324 views | Rangersw12 |
2 Choices? on 17:01 - Oct 18 by paulparker | he has had since February and we are still dog sh1t it doesn't matter how many games you give him its not going to work we are still going to be sh1t at the back , he is still going to play Karl fcukin henry and we will still play one up top should have gone after the Fulham debacle get rid |
Playing devils advocate what would you think if the new manager also played Karl Henry every week ? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 17:12 - Oct 18 with 2305 views | Lblock |
2 Choices? on 16:47 - Oct 18 by Pommyhoop | Warnock will sort out the defence and we will be in the top 10 in 2 weeks time ( Not 17th or under). We will steadily improve but still there will be calls to sack CR. It's what we do . #facedontfit. |
So Warnock achieves this -- great, I'm loving it What, in the name of Christ and all that's bright and wonderful, is the point of Benny?! Maybe he brings his cheeky smile to the table to keep Disco amused or wears his fantastic range of woolly hats to make me titter?!?! A function in the senior squad he does not deserve | ![](/images/avatars/4057.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 17:13 - Oct 18 with 2306 views | paulparker |
2 Choices? on 17:07 - Oct 18 by Rangersw12 | Playing devils advocate what would you think if the new manager also played Karl Henry every week ? |
I dont think they would TBH mate Jackett had the right idea in ditching him as soon as he turned up at Wolves its not only Henry though , we are poor all over the park and lack any leadership and tactical awareness its not working and is never going to work , he shouldn't have got the job and should now be picking up his p45 | ![](/images/avatars/8151.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 17:15 - Oct 18 with 2300 views | daveB |
2 Choices? on 16:34 - Oct 18 by macclesfieldman | Dave, if you read my post I said draw the next 2 games. I never want us to lose but i do want rid of the clueless clown. |
I just don't understand the mentality to want the team to drop points so we can have a new manager. I don't really care who the manager is i just want to see QPR do well | ![](/images/avatars/1922.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 17:20 - Oct 18 with 2280 views | Rangersw12 |
2 Choices? on 17:13 - Oct 18 by paulparker | I dont think they would TBH mate Jackett had the right idea in ditching him as soon as he turned up at Wolves its not only Henry though , we are poor all over the park and lack any leadership and tactical awareness its not working and is never going to work , he shouldn't have got the job and should now be picking up his p45 |
I think Ramsey will be gone after the Brentford game anyway mate I just hope we go for a Karl Robinson type of manager rather than a Gus Poyet | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 17:22 - Oct 18 with 2275 views | Pommyhoop |
2 Choices? on 17:12 - Oct 18 by Lblock | So Warnock achieves this -- great, I'm loving it What, in the name of Christ and all that's bright and wonderful, is the point of Benny?! Maybe he brings his cheeky smile to the table to keep Disco amused or wears his fantastic range of woolly hats to make me titter?!?! A function in the senior squad he does not deserve |
I cant remember our last managers side scoring as many goals as CR's team does. Our problem is the defence if Warnock improves this then great you're loving it but still Benny has to go right? #facedontfit | ![](/images/avatars/7010.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 18:22 - Oct 18 with 2163 views | BerkoRanger | I was listening to Sky Sports memories of Howard Kendall yesterday and was reminded of when he was in charge at Everton, they were on a terrible run and it was widely accepted that a last minute equaliser against Oxford in a cup game saved Howard from the sack and he then went on to turn things around and the rest, as they say, is history. So Chris could turn things around. Football is a funny old game. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 18:32 - Oct 18 with 2141 views | Pommyhoop |
2 Choices? on 18:22 - Oct 18 by BerkoRanger | I was listening to Sky Sports memories of Howard Kendall yesterday and was reminded of when he was in charge at Everton, they were on a terrible run and it was widely accepted that a last minute equaliser against Oxford in a cup game saved Howard from the sack and he then went on to turn things around and the rest, as they say, is history. So Chris could turn things around. Football is a funny old game. |
Not in this corner of West London. We will win the next two maybe draw one and lose one .be in the top ten in a fortnight (no.where near 17th place). Ramsey out Ramsey out.. #facedontfit. | ![](/images/avatars/7010.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 19:42 - Oct 18 with 2050 views | derbyhoop |
2 Choices? on 16:41 - Oct 18 by QPR_John | Have to ask how long will you tolerate conceding two goals per game. We conceded 7 goals in the four games we won so had to score 11 (we actually scored 12 as we beat Rotherham by 2 goals) but you see my point. We will not be winning many more games if we have to score on average 2.75 goals per game to do so. It is not that we have only lost 4 games but more the goals needed to win the 4 we have which is the problem |
I bet it was Ramsey's fault that Perch didn't see the guy coming when he brought him down for the free kick. I bet it was Ramsey's fault that Konchesky, who otherwise had a decent game, let Robinson go so that he had a free header from 6 yards out. I bet it was Ramsey's fault that the ref couldn't tell the difference between a push and a dive. That's why we conceded 2 yesterday. Clearly all Ramsey's fault. There's many things people can have a go at Ramsey about (the obsession with Karl 3-touch Henry being high on my list) but when a decent defensive performance is compromised by 3 silly mistakes, from 3 different players then you're not exactly on solid ground. | ![](/images/avatars/1276.gif) |
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2 Choices? on 19:43 - Oct 18 with 2047 views | essextaxiboy |
2 Choices? on 16:34 - Oct 18 by macclesfieldman | Dave, if you read my post I said draw the next 2 games. I never want us to lose but i do want rid of the clueless clown. |
But you dont want us to win ? | ![](/images/avatars/1443.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
2 Choices? on 19:53 - Oct 18 with 2029 views | essextaxiboy |
2 Choices? on 17:13 - Oct 18 by paulparker | I dont think they would TBH mate Jackett had the right idea in ditching him as soon as he turned up at Wolves its not only Henry though , we are poor all over the park and lack any leadership and tactical awareness its not working and is never going to work , he shouldn't have got the job and should now be picking up his p45 |
And 32 months salary in compo. Have we paid off Hughes yet ? We are not poor all over the park are we PP ? We have scored more goals than anyone else or close to it (cant be arsed to check ) We are poor in defence and ..,1. problem that is taking some fixing and we all have an opinion on how to do it . I agree about Henry btw the way , my only explanation is that Ramsey will only pick players who train properly and fully , we know that from last season . I can imagine that Henry is a good trainer , if his competition for the shirt are not he will play . If Sandro is fit I dont expect Henry to play Tuesday . We only need 1 holding at home . IMO | ![](/images/avatars/1443.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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