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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 21:32 8 Jan 2025

I think it’s more that a national inquiry may not be the best way to address it.

Its such a particular issue there should be a faster and more focussed way.
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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 19:23 8 Jan 2025

Yep.

What we all seem to want is accountability, the recommendations from the 2022 inquiry actioned and a focussed investigation into the failings of this particular issue. And fast.

The question is whether a national inquiry will achieve this.
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Reply		Trump
at 19:20 8 Jan 2025

Could just form a block with Europe 😉
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Reply		Chagos Islands
at 19:19 8 Jan 2025

99 years use of the airbase there.

I’ve no idea if that’s good value or not.
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Reply		Trump
at 19:07 8 Jan 2025

Sadly it seems like many won’t care.

Stand by for ‘he might express it in an uncomfortable way but he’s making good points’,

See also Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson etc.

Doesn’t matter if it’s lies or at least mistruths, if it’s highlighting an issue some won’t care.
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Reply		Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned
at 21:45 7 Jan 2025

Hard to say.

He picked up the already broken news because of the national inquiry story. He didn’t get it out of the blue.

I do think the amount of misinformation he is peddling is distracting from any positive moves that could be made.

His motivation isn’t saving children; it’s clicks and wealth generation.
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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 21:22 7 Jan 2025

This type of information is so hard to find.

Maybe any investigation could remedy this.
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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:52 7 Jan 2025

I can’t see the figures in that.

Here’s what I saw (with the big caveat that I haven’t looked at the original source)



Again, I find what’s happened with the gangs to be possibly the worst thing I’ve ever read about.

Doesn’t mean we should ignore other ethnicities.
[Post edited 7 Jan 21:01]
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Reply		Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned
at 20:44 7 Jan 2025

Totally agree.

I just don’t think he’s helping.
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Reply		Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned
at 20:37 7 Jan 2025

There certainly is a case.

Is the most effective way to achieving the goal for example, calling for Jess Phillips to be sent to prison?

Probably the politician currently in post who has done the most for abused women.
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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:33 7 Jan 2025

For me it’s just a case of making sure the light shines on other similarly abhorrent issues.

It’s quite right at this time it’s these gangs are front and centre.

Doesn’t mean that overall anyone else should get a free pass.
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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:30 7 Jan 2025

That’s grooming gang members, I was on about overall sexual offences.
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Reply		Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned
at 20:15 7 Jan 2025

Yep.

We’re handing over the power to unelected billionaires and thanking them for doing it.

I can’t see how any fair minded British person can have read what Musk has championed over the last few days and not be disturbed.
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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:11 7 Jan 2025

I saw that stat but I can’t find it atm. It also pointed out (I think) that white British who make up 80% of the population are responsible for 80% of sexual offences.

As you say this doesn’t take into account when prosecutions should have taken place.
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Reply		The Rake and Riddle.
at 17:57 7 Jan 2025

Don’t know about that one, Max.
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Reply		The Rake and Riddle.
at 17:17 7 Jan 2025

Now that makes me sad to think about!
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Reply		Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 17:15 7 Jan 2025

This is what I was alluding too earlier in the thread.

Lots clamouring for a national inquiry without really knowing if that’s the best way to get answers.

It’s true that some of the outcomes from the 2022 inquiry were not actioned.

I find it depressing that the political parties are so busy blaming each other. Surely that would be an excellent chance for cross party working.
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Reply		The Rake and Riddle.
at 17:10 7 Jan 2025

The Estuary Bar and Rooms.

I had Sunday lunch there a couple of months ago and it was excellent.
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Reply		The Rake and Riddle.
at 16:09 7 Jan 2025

The Railway that is now GG's in Penclawdd.
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Reply		The Rake and Riddle.
at 13:14 7 Jan 2025

No doubt that's true but our habits have changed massively too.
[Post edited 7 Jan 13:22]
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