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at 22:31 30 Jun 2024

Maybe he's lying it wouldn't surprise me, but the other parties seem to be waving them all in on mass so it's worth a punt.
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at 21:56 30 Jun 2024

To be honest I'd probably vote for Alan Partridge if he promised to stop my little town continuing to turn into a third world slum.
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Euros Match Fred
at 21:50 30 Jun 2024

Yes not just at football, I remember a scrawny Nadal disappearing and then turning up a few months later looking like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Always think Spain and Barcelona stopped winning everything when other countries caught up a bit.
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Euros Match Fred
at 21:32 30 Jun 2024

Always suspect Spain of juicing with the amount of running they do compared to everyone else.
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England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread
at 19:32 30 Jun 2024

Yeah obviously I want us to win, but if we do it's annoying me a bit
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England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread
at 19:22 30 Jun 2024

He took off both the goal scorers and our best penalty taker
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England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread
at 18:58 30 Jun 2024

Fck me never saw that coming in another 2 hours
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England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread
at 18:19 30 Jun 2024

Can you knock out Southgate
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England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread
at 18:13 30 Jun 2024

Slovakia look tired, think we'll knick one at some point
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England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread
at 17:46 30 Jun 2024

At least we're just shite rather than getting robbed like the Danes.
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Euros Match Fred
at 21:33 21 Jun 2024

VAR works really well until the English refs get involved.
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Serbia 🇷🇸 v England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Match Thread
at 10:31 17 Jun 2024

Don't like GS at all, but this was like a typical England performance in tournaments against half decent teams for as long as I remember.

Start with all guns blazing and get an early goal, start to run out of steam and the opposition gradually takes control of the game as it goes on. I think it's a symptom of the way English players play more than anything. They seem to lack the ability to control the game over 90 minutes.
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at 08:55 16 Jun 2024

Are you asking why people who don't believe in man made climate change don't want to do anything about it?

What baffles me is that people who do believe in it also seem to like the idea of a load of immigration from low carbon countries in the third world to the West to prevent population decline.

Surely they'd be welcoming a lower population here as it would naturally reduce carbon emissions, but nope they want the complete opposite for some reason.
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General Election Thread
at 08:02 16 Jun 2024

Climate scientists don't do themselves any favours with reports like this year that we're in the middle of the hottest spring of all time in the UK, when it's clearly not.

I don't know why anyone still believes any of it after they were caught fiddling the figures to hide a fall in temperatures years ago.
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at 08:13 15 Jun 2024

The figures are in the link in my comment.

I don't think as many migrants work in the things you list, as if they did then the millions already here would have filled those jobs and yet we still have an endless shortage of workers.
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at 10:13 14 Jun 2024

I don't think reducing immigration would cause wages to suddenly rise to £60 an hour, would be a slow increase in wages over time and a slow increase in prices to match. Hopefully as wages increase more people will want to work and things will even out.

Any direction from here is going to be difficult, I don't think that continuing to increase the population of the country by 750k+ a year (over double the population of Nottingham) is sustainable.
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at 09:41 14 Jun 2024

We could follow what Japan are doing with using technology and smart farming to replace human labour as their population ages.

https://www.asiapathways-adbi.org/2023/01/japan-guides-the-way-on-smart-farming-

Here the opposite seems to be happening, car washes used to be automated when I was a kid and now they seem to be manned by about 15 foreign blokes instead.
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at 09:26 14 Jun 2024

What you're describing sounds a bit like Switzerland, everything there is extortionately expensive in comparison to here. I know someone who tried to get a cleaner and the cheapest was over £60 an hour so they decided not to bother. When I went there over a decade ago a small bag of potatoes from the supermarket cost £6 .

And yet despite that their quality of life is much better. They don't have a large proportion of the country working long hours to spend all their money living in a room in a crappy HMO.
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at 09:13 14 Jun 2024

If no one wants to do jobs because they are so terrible and low paid then without immigration the employers would have to offer better wages and conditions until they can attract employees. It's what used to happen in the past and why people with unskilled jobs could still afford a house and family and have half decent lives.

The other problem with using immigration to gloss over the problem is that they don't like poor conditions much either (why should they?) and once settled here will often quit for a better job and then we suddenly need a load more immigration to fill the posts the last lot have left. Have you noticed despite record numbers arriving every year employers are still complaining about lack of workers? It's basically a pyramid scheme at this point.
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General Election Thread
at 07:10 14 Jun 2024

Immigration works fine if you only give out visas for high paying work. The government seems to have other ideas, giving them out like confetti for low skilled workers and that's if they are working at all.

Immigration cost the country £15bn from 1995-2011 I dread to think of what it is costing now after the massive influx of the last few years:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25880373
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