| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 19:46 - Jan 10 with 1201 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 19:20 - Jan 10 by SullutaCreturned |
Habving 21% didn't give them any power, the decisions were made by the majority shareholders.
Gyorkeres was all Coopers fault, you are trying to attribute hostility to the owners to new things, people blame the previous owners for the things they did, not the things the managers did. Even so, he was on loan and it cannot be considered a transfer blunder, not like the Robin Sharpe/Ray (or was it Rod) Wallace transfer? Or David Seal? |
David Seal was hilarious though Doug tried to stitch him up royally. |  |
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 19:47 - Jan 10 with 1198 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 19:20 - Jan 10 by SullutaCreturned |
Habving 21% didn't give them any power, the decisions were made by the majority shareholders.
Gyorkeres was all Coopers fault, you are trying to attribute hostility to the owners to new things, people blame the previous owners for the things they did, not the things the managers did. Even so, he was on loan and it cannot be considered a transfer blunder, not like the Robin Sharpe/Ray (or was it Rod) Wallace transfer? Or David Seal? |
21% ownership meant a man on the board with knowledge of Swansea and hopefully football.
His contribution to decisions and matters of club management depends on whether the trust man had any gravitas and whether his opinion was respected.
If he or she had nothing to offer he /she will have been ignored. The club has always stated they gave importance to the relationship with the views of the Trust. (this may have been genuine of good PR.I have no idea which)
Gyorkeres was available for transfer for Swansea. They had 2-3 months after Covid to look at him and he scored a crisp header v Stevenage in the FA cup. It was a major blunder by Cooper.
Strong 6 ft + centre forwards who can head the ball hold it up and are powerful runners do not exist in Wales. Swansea went to Slovenia and Ukraine to get one. [Post edited 10 Jan 19:53]
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:38 - Jan 10 with 1073 views | QJumpingJack |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 19:47 - Jan 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
21% ownership meant a man on the board with knowledge of Swansea and hopefully football.
His contribution to decisions and matters of club management depends on whether the trust man had any gravitas and whether his opinion was respected.
If he or she had nothing to offer he /she will have been ignored. The club has always stated they gave importance to the relationship with the views of the Trust. (this may have been genuine of good PR.I have no idea which)
Gyorkeres was available for transfer for Swansea. They had 2-3 months after Covid to look at him and he scored a crisp header v Stevenage in the FA cup. It was a major blunder by Cooper.
Strong 6 ft + centre forwards who can head the ball hold it up and are powerful runners do not exist in Wales. Swansea went to Slovenia and Ukraine to get one. [Post edited 10 Jan 19:53]
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I have spoken to an agent. VG was not available to Swansea.
End of discussion on this very boring and incorrect agenda. |  | | |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 21:01 - Jan 10 with 1020 views | union_jack |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:38 - Jan 10 by QJumpingJack |
I have spoken to an agent. VG was not available to Swansea.
End of discussion on this very boring and incorrect agenda. |
That FACT won’t fit his agenda. He will come back with the same thing again, over and over. |  |
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 21:24 - Jan 10 with 1013 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:38 - Jan 10 by QJumpingJack |
I have spoken to an agent. VG was not available to Swansea.
End of discussion on this very boring and incorrect agenda. |
"I have spoken to an agent" and you believed him right? Absolutely laughable. I have really good mining investment for you in Uganda. | |
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 14:16 - Jan 11 with 861 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 19:47 - Jan 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
21% ownership meant a man on the board with knowledge of Swansea and hopefully football.
His contribution to decisions and matters of club management depends on whether the trust man had any gravitas and whether his opinion was respected.
If he or she had nothing to offer he /she will have been ignored. The club has always stated they gave importance to the relationship with the views of the Trust. (this may have been genuine of good PR.I have no idea which)
Gyorkeres was available for transfer for Swansea. They had 2-3 months after Covid to look at him and he scored a crisp header v Stevenage in the FA cup. It was a major blunder by Cooper.
Strong 6 ft + centre forwards who can head the ball hold it up and are powerful runners do not exist in Wales. Swansea went to Slovenia and Ukraine to get one. [Post edited 10 Jan 19:53]
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Levein and Kaplan didn't even bother coming to Swansea let alone to board meetings. The person they left nominally in charge was keeping them updated so they could make the decisions.
They left Coleman "in charge" but he wasn't making the decisions, they were.
It's much better they are gone and the man now in charge is not just actually inn charge but is over here full time.
You tell us you have shares, do they board listen to your opinions?
You insist Gyorkeres was available to us but you have no proof of that. Cooper messed up yes but we cannot know if Gyorkeres would even have signed for us if we'd made an acceptable offer BUT what we do know is the then owners would never have paid what hsi club wanted because that was their MO all through their reign here. Get cheap players. Make low offers and if it works out sell for a profit.
At least Coleman wants to invest properly and improve us. At least he's in Swansea and doing his best.
That last bit, how many clubs do not have foreign players these days, specially in the top 2 tiers. | | | |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 18:30 - Jan 12 with 703 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 14:16 - Jan 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Levein and Kaplan didn't even bother coming to Swansea let alone to board meetings. The person they left nominally in charge was keeping them updated so they could make the decisions.
They left Coleman "in charge" but he wasn't making the decisions, they were.
It's much better they are gone and the man now in charge is not just actually inn charge but is over here full time.
You tell us you have shares, do they board listen to your opinions?
You insist Gyorkeres was available to us but you have no proof of that. Cooper messed up yes but we cannot know if Gyorkeres would even have signed for us if we'd made an acceptable offer BUT what we do know is the then owners would never have paid what hsi club wanted because that was their MO all through their reign here. Get cheap players. Make low offers and if it works out sell for a profit.
At least Coleman wants to invest properly and improve us. At least he's in Swansea and doing his best.
That last bit, how many clubs do not have foreign players these days, specially in the top 2 tiers. |
K&L were never welcome at Swansea after the bad feeling created by issues related to the fans ownership group.
Coleman was in charge if he was not then he was lying i the fans forum and should resign. He did have budgetary restrictions,
I have shares and I can vote. If I was on the board would make my feeling felt. If the Trust had no influence that is their fault. They had a bigger ownership than say Silverstein.
I f do not have f proof the Vik Gyorkeres was up for sale other than press reports at the time and the fact that Coventry gave him a trial and made on offer which got accepted for the same fee reported on in the press. A coincidence perhaps? He was just what the club needed and cheap very cheap. Cooper preferred Lowe and never tested Gyorkeres. Another passing through manager.
Coleman is in charge and not much evidence of improvement v based on this afternoons surrender, Huw Jenkins chased out buy the useless Trust would not accept performances like this. | |
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:10 - Jan 12 with 636 views | QJumpingJack |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 18:30 - Jan 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
K&L were never welcome at Swansea after the bad feeling created by issues related to the fans ownership group.
Coleman was in charge if he was not then he was lying i the fans forum and should resign. He did have budgetary restrictions,
I have shares and I can vote. If I was on the board would make my feeling felt. If the Trust had no influence that is their fault. They had a bigger ownership than say Silverstein.
I f do not have f proof the Vik Gyorkeres was up for sale other than press reports at the time and the fact that Coventry gave him a trial and made on offer which got accepted for the same fee reported on in the press. A coincidence perhaps? He was just what the club needed and cheap very cheap. Cooper preferred Lowe and never tested Gyorkeres. Another passing through manager.
Coleman is in charge and not much evidence of improvement v based on this afternoons surrender, Huw Jenkins chased out buy the useless Trust would not accept performances like this. |
How was Huw Jenkins chased out by the Trust?
Perhaps watch Prime Video - All or Nothing - Leeds United - Daniel James transfer fiasco and that may give you a better understanding of why Jenkins left in January 2019. Nothing to do with the Trust.
Also go online where Jenkins is interviewed in Manchester and is not very complimentary about the group he sold to.
These are slightly better sources than the WalesOnline. | | | |
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:14 - Jan 12 with 617 views | sons_of_omri |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 17:27 - Jan 7 by KeithHaynes |
Subs bench, I like him there 😂👍 |
I think his physicality helps us as we are rather midgety all round. Colin MacDonald would excel in this side and he was a pure bred miniature footballer | | | |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:37 - Jan 12 with 589 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 18:30 - Jan 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
K&L were never welcome at Swansea after the bad feeling created by issues related to the fans ownership group.
Coleman was in charge if he was not then he was lying i the fans forum and should resign. He did have budgetary restrictions,
I have shares and I can vote. If I was on the board would make my feeling felt. If the Trust had no influence that is their fault. They had a bigger ownership than say Silverstein.
I f do not have f proof the Vik Gyorkeres was up for sale other than press reports at the time and the fact that Coventry gave him a trial and made on offer which got accepted for the same fee reported on in the press. A coincidence perhaps? He was just what the club needed and cheap very cheap. Cooper preferred Lowe and never tested Gyorkeres. Another passing through manager.
Coleman is in charge and not much evidence of improvement v based on this afternoons surrender, Huw Jenkins chased out buy the useless Trust would not accept performances like this. |
Yes you can vote but if 21% of the votes are for one thing but the 79% want something else, what happens? Who wins?
You seem to believe the trust could force the owners to go in a different direction. The trust had no influence because they had 21% of shars, if they'd had 51% then they'd have influence. You do understand how a majority decision works?
You said Gyorkeres was available to us, after the way Cooper had treated him, why would he sign for us? That's before we wonder of we'd have offered enough....oh wait, we know we wouldn't have because Levein and Kaplan pulled the rug even after agreeing a fee, at least once.
You say the trust chased HJ out...risible, klaughable even. HJ had been making very bad decisions, he re-signed Bony and Ayew and cost the Swans tens of millions and the fans all around the stadium weren't happy with him. | | | |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:48 - Jan 12 with 565 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:37 - Jan 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Yes you can vote but if 21% of the votes are for one thing but the 79% want something else, what happens? Who wins?
You seem to believe the trust could force the owners to go in a different direction. The trust had no influence because they had 21% of shars, if they'd had 51% then they'd have influence. You do understand how a majority decision works?
You said Gyorkeres was available to us, after the way Cooper had treated him, why would he sign for us? That's before we wonder of we'd have offered enough....oh wait, we know we wouldn't have because Levein and Kaplan pulled the rug even after agreeing a fee, at least once.
You say the trust chased HJ out...risible, klaughable even. HJ had been making very bad decisions, he re-signed Bony and Ayew and cost the Swans tens of millions and the fans all around the stadium weren't happy with him. |
The voice of the Trust would be respected if the person was respected.Levien made the issue of the Trust a major factor in their decision to sell up. Influence comes from respect not share holding.
The Trust could not force anything. They tried to force the US people to buy their shares despite being opposed to selling we hen they arrived.
I am glad you s now seem to agree with me that Cooper messed up Gyorkeres like Martin messed up Whittaker. Swansea incredibility seem to think Bianchini is better than Whittaker. These decisions were bad decisions by Cooper and Martin which the Levien group had to pay for. Made in Wales in one case.
The club is now on a game plan where it ripps up teams with short fast crisp passing except the players cannot pass under pressure. | |
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:41 - Jan 13 with 391 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:48 - Jan 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The voice of the Trust would be respected if the person was respected.Levien made the issue of the Trust a major factor in their decision to sell up. Influence comes from respect not share holding.
The Trust could not force anything. They tried to force the US people to buy their shares despite being opposed to selling we hen they arrived.
I am glad you s now seem to agree with me that Cooper messed up Gyorkeres like Martin messed up Whittaker. Swansea incredibility seem to think Bianchini is better than Whittaker. These decisions were bad decisions by Cooper and Martin which the Levien group had to pay for. Made in Wales in one case.
The club is now on a game plan where it ripps up teams with short fast crisp passing except the players cannot pass under pressure. |
I don't agree with you, it was an independent thought from before you started posting, with this username at least.
The trust were indulged but not listened too just like Levein and Kaplan often ignored what the manager wanted. Cooper told them what he wanted but got what he didn't want and you talk about influence coming from respect?
You can't force anybody to buy your shares, that's an absurd claim. | | | |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 15:29 - Jan 14 with 271 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:41 - Jan 13 by SullutaCreturned |
I don't agree with you, it was an independent thought from before you started posting, with this username at least.
The trust were indulged but not listened too just like Levein and Kaplan often ignored what the manager wanted. Cooper told them what he wanted but got what he didn't want and you talk about influence coming from respect?
You can't force anybody to buy your shares, that's an absurd claim. |
That was the Trust s plan. You seem to agree with me that was absurd as well. They wanted to force the US people to buy their shares at the 2016 price pla us costs.
If the Tryst man was indulged he should have resigned and replaced with someone with clout and prepared to show up and speak at forums.
Cooper wanted Gyorkeres out and Kieran Davis in costing a lot more.
Swansea cannot win . If the golden nugget is not ready they sent it back. What a finish by Whittaker. The football people are clueless about strikers with potential. | |
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 16:24 - Jan 14 with 246 views | onehunglow |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 20:37 - Jan 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Yes you can vote but if 21% of the votes are for one thing but the 79% want something else, what happens? Who wins?
You seem to believe the trust could force the owners to go in a different direction. The trust had no influence because they had 21% of shars, if they'd had 51% then they'd have influence. You do understand how a majority decision works?
You said Gyorkeres was available to us, after the way Cooper had treated him, why would he sign for us? That's before we wonder of we'd have offered enough....oh wait, we know we wouldn't have because Levein and Kaplan pulled the rug even after agreeing a fee, at least once.
You say the trust chased HJ out...risible, klaughable even. HJ had been making very bad decisions, he re-signed Bony and Ayew and cost the Swans tens of millions and the fans all around the stadium weren't happy with him. |
Our relegation was shameful,our fall even greater .
A glorious chance blown away on the wind
Down to Jenkins
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| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 17:15 - Jan 14 with 214 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is Peart Harris available to buy,? on 16:24 - Jan 14 by onehunglow |
Our relegation was shameful,our fall even greater .
A glorious chance blown away on the wind
Down to Jenkins
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Jenkins got Swansea to the Premier league and gost the club by staying loyal to a weak recruitment team. Jenkins wasxat his best with a strong conviction manager like Brendan and Martinez Potter. He was weakest with pliant managers who accepted what they were given. Clement, Monk, early Sousa etc. Martinez was under pressure to sign a shot Hartson but was strong enough to reject sentiment. Neither he nor Brendan would have approved Bony 2 Clucas Sanches Eder Franck Borja etc
I thought MPH looked the only Swansea player with the physique to match Southampton players.
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