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Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 177241 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Discuss.

Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.

But that’s another debate.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 08:52 - Feb 13 with 1459 viewsKeithHaynes

(No subject) (n/t) on 07:25 - Feb 13 by 73__73

Who are these experts, name some names ?
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General feeling is it will happen when Putin gets back from his holidays at the olympics 🤸🏽‍♂️
I wish him well. A bit icy over there.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 08:56 - Feb 13 with 1453 views73__73

(No subject) (n/t) on 08:52 - Feb 13 by KeithHaynes

General feeling is it will happen when Putin gets back from his holidays at the olympics 🤸🏽‍♂️
I wish him well. A bit icy over there.


So the whole invasion is built around the Olympic timetable

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 17:57 - Feb 13 with 1393 viewsCatullus

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 21:51 - Feb 11 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

The next war won’t be about troops. They are largely irrelevant. We probably have the capability right now of killing every last one of those troops with the push of a button. As do they. This is why the next war truely will be the war to end all wars because there’ll be no bugger left.


Ultimately in an invasion you always need boots on the ground, otherwise it's not an invasion just an annihilation/massacre/destruction etc.

If they do invade (bearing in mind they already invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took the Crimea) lets hope troops on the ground is the worst thing that happens.

Maybe the intense international pressure will stop them but Russia and China seem to sense a Western weakness right now. Poor leadership, weak willed, namby pamby politcians who roll over for them most times means the two of them are feeling bold.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 23:15 - Feb 13 with 1356 viewsAjack_Kerouac

For the slow of thinking...


Why were Ukrainians the largest doners to the Hilary Clinton campaign?


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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 23:19 - Feb 13 with 1355 viewsAjack_Kerouac

This is Hilary meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poreshenko, she is a private citizen at this point, she is there on behalf of the 'Clinton Foundation'.
This meeting took place during her 2016 campaign.
Also present; John Podesta and Jake Sullivan (who ran surveillance on a sitting US President - Trump - and has been fingered as the person commissioning the Russia hoax lies)...

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/dLKmlFtXR8TmeUH4hxpqbkoKwzI=/0x300:5760x3540


Ukraine attempted to help Hilary win (against Trump) by sabotaging Trump and colluding with the DNC.
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 00:02 - Feb 14 with 1349 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian troops are not there to invade the Ukraine, they are there to protect the Russian ppl in Donbass in the east Ukraine

That conflict has been going on for a while and Russia is concerned that the Ukranians may commit atrocities against the Russian living there. The Ukranian govt is very right wing and hostile to the Russians in general, and particularly those living in that area.
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 08:47 - Feb 14 with 1333 viewsCatullus

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 00:02 - Feb 14 by controversial_jack

Russian troops are not there to invade the Ukraine, they are there to protect the Russian ppl in Donbass in the east Ukraine

That conflict has been going on for a while and Russia is concerned that the Ukranians may commit atrocities against the Russian living there. The Ukranian govt is very right wing and hostile to the Russians in general, and particularly those living in that area.


That there is the very same reason Hitler gave for invading the Sudetenland.

Now these donations to the Clinton gang, as long as they are within the rules what is the problem? Seeing as how Ukraine has had, and is still having trouble with the Russians, if they suspected Trump was a Russian preference, why wouldn't they act against him?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 09:58 - Feb 14 with 1313 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 08:47 - Feb 14 by Catullus

That there is the very same reason Hitler gave for invading the Sudetenland.

Now these donations to the Clinton gang, as long as they are within the rules what is the problem? Seeing as how Ukraine has had, and is still having trouble with the Russians, if they suspected Trump was a Russian preference, why wouldn't they act against him?


Jesus wept!

You can't see what's wrong with;

1 - Clinton taking tons of money off Ukrainians through her foundation

2 - Clinton gang organising the overthrow of a legitimately elected Ukrainian government...Clinton, Obama and Biden ordered the new Ukrainian regime to put their guys in place or have funds cut off, guess what...Clinton, Obama and Biden got their way.
Do you remember Clinton's phone call revealed by Wikileaks?
"...f*ck the EU" and then pressed on with what the Ukrainians had paid her to press on with.

3 - This then causes Russia to act to secure their naval base and prevent Nato from being camped on their border....the Russians who already controlled Crimea simply announced that Crimea was now part of Russia again...not a shot was fired.
The Democrats created this mess.

4 - Clinton gang then fixes the DNC vote on who should run as President...Bernie Sanders was robbed - Seth Rich is then murdered for coming forward to grass on Clinton.

5 - Clinton loses to Trump, blames the Russians - no evidence is ever produced for this that hasn't been proven to be corrupted...

- The person that was meant to be Trump's point man, meeting with the Russians, turned out to be a long standing CIA operative whose links with Russia were well established...it was a set up - this has been proven in court and the CIA operative was given a slap on the wrist for his part in the Russia hoax -BUT YOU WON'T HEAR ABOUT THAT IN THE MEDIA/PROPAGANDA YOU CONSUME. For most people, if the TV or the paper or their favourite website doesn't report on something proven in court then it never happened - this is the manipulative game they are playing with you

- The Steele dossier is proven nonsense, a tissue of lies.

- The Clinton gang have now been shown (by Durham) to have commissioned the "evidence" against Trump, from Joffe - who was controlled by Sullivan - who then ran surveillance on a sitting US President and tried to take him down from within government - who is now Biden's 'National Security Advisor' and is pushing for war with Russia in Ukraine....this is the guy who had a temper tantrum when a journalist asked him what his evidence was that Russia runs false flag attacks - his response was something like 'if you don't believe me you are unpatriotic'

6 - A senile old man with deeply corrupt "ties" (his whole family has been on the take) to Ukraine is put forward as President and an election is rigged.
Biden's drug addict son is on the board of a Ukrainian energy company and is paid a fortune for running messages back and for between his dad, Hilary, Obama etc. and the Ukrainian puppet government in Kiev.
(They are also on the take from China and the compromised, propaganda tool that is the Left-wing US media and tech companies silence a newspaper that dares to report evidence that Biden is compromised)

7 - Clinton made assurances about the ethical standards required of her regading her "Foundation" (which is just a way for foreign governments/elites to buy the American policies of their choosing via the Democrat party) and holding office in Obama's government....she broke those promises and circumnavigated the system so that government could not see her communications (the e-mail scandal)...she broke the law



....but you are commanded to get angry at Trump for "ripping paper up and throwing it in the bin" (any fecking evidence?) and that's what you focus on.


What the Democrats have been getting up to makes 'Watergate' look like amateur hour.
They are deeply corrupt criminals who are about to send the sons and daughters of those they despise out to war with Russia because Ukrainians have paid them millions of dollars to do so, because it helps them distract from their multiple crises at home and (this is my hunch) because engineering some kind of loss of face for the US military actually suits their wider goals.



Wake up people.


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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 10:04 - Feb 14 with 1314 viewsonehunglow

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 11:50 - Dec 24 by trampie

That is the point after everything England did to Ireland including the famine they remained neutral, many in the Ukraine didn't, their famine might have had something to do with it but lots of them fought with the Germans not the case with the paddies.
You have to take your hat off to the paddies for their part in the war, do they side with people that had colonised their country and treat them has second class citizens, jailed their father, killed their grandfather etc or go with Hitler, credit to them for staying neutral in those circumstances, not sure what the rationale of some Ukrainians was mind.


Britain.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 10:28 - Feb 14 with 1309 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 23:19 - Feb 13 by Ajack_Kerouac

This is Hilary meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poreshenko, she is a private citizen at this point, she is there on behalf of the 'Clinton Foundation'.
This meeting took place during her 2016 campaign.
Also present; John Podesta and Jake Sullivan (who ran surveillance on a sitting US President - Trump - and has been fingered as the person commissioning the Russia hoax lies)...

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/dLKmlFtXR8TmeUH4hxpqbkoKwzI=/0x300:5760x3540


Ukraine attempted to help Hilary win (against Trump) by sabotaging Trump and colluding with the DNC.
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“Also present; John Podesta and Jake Sullivan (who ran surveillance on a sitting US President - Trump - and has been fingered as the person commissioning the Russia hoax lies)...”

An unconventional punishment but no doubt deserved.
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 11:05 - Feb 14 with 1296 viewscontroversial_jack

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 08:47 - Feb 14 by Catullus

That there is the very same reason Hitler gave for invading the Sudetenland.

Now these donations to the Clinton gang, as long as they are within the rules what is the problem? Seeing as how Ukraine has had, and is still having trouble with the Russians, if they suspected Trump was a Russian preference, why wouldn't they act against him?


The same reason Britain sent troops to N Ireland too
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 12:40 - Feb 14 with 1272 viewsKilkennyjack



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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 12:51 - Feb 14 with 1265 viewsonehunglow

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 11:05 - Feb 14 by controversial_jack

The same reason Britain sent troops to N Ireland too


Nope,they were sent in to stop the Protestants treating Catholics like trash

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 12:53 - Feb 14 with 1259 viewsCatullus

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 11:05 - Feb 14 by controversial_jack

The same reason Britain sent troops to N Ireland too


Oh no, there were "British" (English back then) troops in Ireland for a long time before the IRA, 1798, all that way back when we'd invaded Ireland and made the UK of GB&I. It all comes from there.

It's all colonialist BS.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 12:59 - Feb 14 with 1257 viewsCatullus

Well then, some people on here love the EU and even agree with it's claim to have been set up to keep peace in Europe. When the EU courted Uraine it did exactly the opposite. Putin has over 130,000 troops on their border as well as large naval forces and marines offshore nearby and why?

Because he doesn't want the Ukraine to join NATO or the EU. So the talks of Ukraine joining the EU may well have helped trigger an armed conflict in Europe.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/europe-closer-to-war-than-at-any-point-in-7

The Eu and it's empire building is a dangerous thing. All we needed was NATO and to keep the status quo. What else might Russia do if she does go to war?

Lets hope the diplomatic attempts solve the problem but one thing is for sure, one way or the other, Ukraine won't be joining the EU.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 18:06 - Feb 14 with 1221 viewsKeithHaynes

Invasion in the next 48 hours according to Johnson.
Let’s all have a party.
If that’s the case the UK should be getting all British subjects out of the country.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 18:11 - Feb 14 with 1215 viewscontroversial_jack

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 12:51 - Feb 14 by onehunglow

Nope,they were sent in to stop the Protestants treating Catholics like trash


That's exactly the same then. British troops were sent there in reality to keep N Ireland stable and part of the UK, The same with Cyprus and the conflict in the 50s, troops weren't sent there to keep the Greeks and Turks from killing each other, they were there to keep the Island for Britain
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 18:13 - Feb 14 with 1213 viewscontroversial_jack

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 18:06 - Feb 14 by KeithHaynes

Invasion in the next 48 hours according to Johnson.
Let’s all have a party.
If that’s the case the UK should be getting all British subjects out of the country.


The Uk has said it won't get involved militarily
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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 18:44 - Feb 14 with 1205 views73__73

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 18:13 - Feb 14 by controversial_jack

The Uk has said it won't get involved militarily


I wonder why 😂

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 22:58 - Feb 14 with 1152 viewsEbo

Never fear, we have the charismatic Liz Truss who the Russian foreign minister labelled 'a mute idiot' after she got Ukrainian towns and Russian towns mixed up.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 23:33 - Feb 14 with 1137 viewsKilkennyjack

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 10:04 - Feb 14 by onehunglow

Britain.


The British Army is told where to deploy by politicians based in London, England.

You can ignore what nations the squaddies came from. There are many.
You can ignore what nations the individual politicians came from.

What you cant ignore is that the decisions from Westminster are based on the English voters.
What they want wins out.
543 mp’s out of 650 represent English constituencies.

The British policy in Ireland pre dates the elected governments of wales and scotland.
The British policy in Ireland is the English policy in Ireland. One and the same thing.

And its been a total disaster.
Until the GFA.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 23:36 - Feb 14 with 1136 viewsKilkennyjack

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 12:59 - Feb 14 by Catullus

Well then, some people on here love the EU and even agree with it's claim to have been set up to keep peace in Europe. When the EU courted Uraine it did exactly the opposite. Putin has over 130,000 troops on their border as well as large naval forces and marines offshore nearby and why?

Because he doesn't want the Ukraine to join NATO or the EU. So the talks of Ukraine joining the EU may well have helped trigger an armed conflict in Europe.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/europe-closer-to-war-than-at-any-point-in-7

The Eu and it's empire building is a dangerous thing. All we needed was NATO and to keep the status quo. What else might Russia do if she does go to war?

Lets hope the diplomatic attempts solve the problem but one thing is for sure, one way or the other, Ukraine won't be joining the EU.


Its about NATO.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 09:13 - Feb 15 with 1094 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 23:36 - Feb 14 by Kilkennyjack

Its about NATO.


Just as well NATO has kept the peace in Europe whereas the EU has done little to keep peace Europe. Some EU countries are not even in NATO so would be of little use I keeping peace.

This is all about Russian aggression and invading free democratic countries as they already have done to parts of Ukraine.

I thought you would be all in favour of countries wishing to exercise the democratic rights to be independent.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 09:17 - Feb 15 with 1089 viewsAjack_Kerouac

So Putin has pulled his troops back.


Like I said, he is just putting pressure on to secure a treaty that agrees the rules regarding NATO, the EU and the Ukraine.

Biden and his band of crims needed to drum it up as loud as possible to distract from the mess they have made at home, from Trudeau going full fascist, from the Federal Reserve about to raise interest rates to combat inflation (which will have adverse effects on the stock market (but they don't have any choices...such is the mess they have created).


Boris has to drum it up also because we have made commitments to our NATO allies in the East and need to be seen to be doing everything possible to warn Putin off.


If the Biden criminal regime tries to move weapons or troops into Ukraine Putin will invade though, there can be no doubt about that now.

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Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 09:22 - Feb 15 with 1088 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Will Russia invade Ukraine? on 09:17 - Feb 15 by Ajack_Kerouac

So Putin has pulled his troops back.


Like I said, he is just putting pressure on to secure a treaty that agrees the rules regarding NATO, the EU and the Ukraine.

Biden and his band of crims needed to drum it up as loud as possible to distract from the mess they have made at home, from Trudeau going full fascist, from the Federal Reserve about to raise interest rates to combat inflation (which will have adverse effects on the stock market (but they don't have any choices...such is the mess they have created).


Boris has to drum it up also because we have made commitments to our NATO allies in the East and need to be seen to be doing everything possible to warn Putin off.


If the Biden criminal regime tries to move weapons or troops into Ukraine Putin will invade though, there can be no doubt about that now.


I think you will find Putin has already invaded part of Ukraine, he has sent his troops into Crimea and some parts of Eastern Ukraine already.

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