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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) 23:43 - Jul 30 with 6163 viewsRAFCBLUE

Now that Darrell Rose is formally claiming at Companies House to be the legal owner of Morton House Mgt and First Form Construction Limited perhaps he can clear up something that bothers UK tax payers?

That question is, is his business registered for and paying the appropriate taxes that a payroll company should, particularly VAT?

You must register for VAT if your VAT taxable turnover goes over £85,000 (the 'threshold'), or you know that it will. That's the law.

Except Darrell's new company looks like it had HMRC REVOKE its VAT registration some time ago.

It used to have the VAT number: GB 736128534

http://www.vat-lookup.co.uk/verify/vat_check.php/VATNumber/GB736128534

If you use that website then guess what ; the is NO RECORD of Morton House.

This says that either:
(a) HMRC said they were not doing valid activity to warrant being VAT registered so cancelled their registration.
(b) The turnover is less than £85,000 - meaning it doesn't need to be registered - in which case how is it finding £4m in its current assets in 2020?
(c) It is trading illegally, without being registered.

If you don't believe that website to check then here is the Government's:
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/check-vat-number/enter-vat-details

Guess what - they've not heard of Morton House for VAT either!

Now here's a separate story about a busted payroll fraud. The biggest busted payroll fraud in the UK ever found. The scam came to light after information was passed to Essex Police, resulting in an investigation led by the Kent and Essex serious crime directorate, with the assistance of HMRC’s criminal taxes unit.

https://www.accountancydaily.co/fraudster-family-ps45m-payroll-vat-scam

What similarities do we have with that story with what we know about Curran and Rose and Morton House:

1) Family
2) Spending the money on lavish lifestyles
3) Umbrella payroll companies, which were used by recruitment agencies to manage the wages of thousands of temporary workers.
4) Essex Police
5) Designer clothing, watches, and deposit transfers for a Las Vegas casino.

Here's a summary if you are thinking about payroll services at Morton House about what we know about their affairs:

No income tax
No VAT
No money back, no guarantees.
The future's dark
They're looking pale
We won't stop until you leave Dale.

Andy Curran associates seemingly with an unregistered VAT business in his Rolls Royce Cullinan which is trying to buy the club.

Alex Jarvis is pushing this unregistered VAT business to the EFL as a credible party to sit the Owners and Directors test.

It's Jingles and Puggles I feel really sorry for. When there's a knock on the door they'll be thinking that its time to be going for walkies!

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 09:07 - Jul 31 with 5981 viewsBigKindo

Didn't you write in one of your earlier threads that a couple of these characters weren't on the Electoral Roll. Then perhaps this should have been applied if they weren't between changing residential addresses.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-introduces-legislation-for-individ

Any CCJ's out there in the public domain which would result in a criminal record?
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 09:45 - Jul 31 with 5915 viewsBlueMessiah

Just be careful RAFCBLUE, if RochdaleFan asks you for your shoe size, don't tell him!

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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 10:22 - Jul 31 with 5831 viewsSalegraham

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 09:45 - Jul 31 by BlueMessiah

Just be careful RAFCBLUE, if RochdaleFan asks you for your shoe size, don't tell him!

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Brilliant stuff again RAFCBLUE,I think I speak for all Dale fans
Apart from one, no names.
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 10:29 - Jul 31 with 5798 viewsYouTubeDale

From the Kremlin to Lada cars, to Tommy Cannon, to ...is it Del boy? Where is this club going next ???

Join in after one, two, three...




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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 08:31 - Aug 1 with 5257 viewsMarjorie_Plane

Oh my oh my... what wonderful work RAFCBLUE... this just keeps going and going doesn't it... what a tangled web of deceit they weave... just a quick question if I may.. this scam operation of Jarvis, Curran and Rose is what we in the Sandy would call money laundering, VAT fraud, tax evasion, false accounting and so on... now then my point...

what about those people who have or will be selling shares to these people... I mean messrs Kilpatrick, Bottomley, Rawlinson... could it be argued they are now part of the conspiracy to defraud? If they haven't been paid yet then oh dear... Could the HMRC claw all their money back... Could they lose out here if accounts are frozen with preservation orders? I suppose thats only right that the tax payer gets refunded...

and forgive me but the solicitors who represent these people... oh gosh... they will get reported to the SRA now surely? Thats the Solicitors Regulation Authority for them in the main stand. They must have done due diligence on their clients as they are governed by anti money laundering legislation? Could they lose their licence? They surely must know all about Morton House Mgt? Surely?

This has only just begun....
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 15:00 - Aug 2 with 4909 viewsSandyman

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 08:31 - Aug 1 by Marjorie_Plane

Oh my oh my... what wonderful work RAFCBLUE... this just keeps going and going doesn't it... what a tangled web of deceit they weave... just a quick question if I may.. this scam operation of Jarvis, Curran and Rose is what we in the Sandy would call money laundering, VAT fraud, tax evasion, false accounting and so on... now then my point...

what about those people who have or will be selling shares to these people... I mean messrs Kilpatrick, Bottomley, Rawlinson... could it be argued they are now part of the conspiracy to defraud? If they haven't been paid yet then oh dear... Could the HMRC claw all their money back... Could they lose out here if accounts are frozen with preservation orders? I suppose thats only right that the tax payer gets refunded...

and forgive me but the solicitors who represent these people... oh gosh... they will get reported to the SRA now surely? Thats the Solicitors Regulation Authority for them in the main stand. They must have done due diligence on their clients as they are governed by anti money laundering legislation? Could they lose their licence? They surely must know all about Morton House Mgt? Surely?

This has only just begun....


What scandal, Marjorie!
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 00:16 - Aug 3 with 4641 viewsMarjorie_Plane

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 15:00 - Aug 2 by Sandyman

What scandal, Marjorie!


Any more news please... I'm getting bored
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 10:37 - Aug 3 with 4510 viewsAlan_ADale

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 00:16 - Aug 3 by Marjorie_Plane

Any more news please... I'm getting bored


i bet these dodgy dealers are anything but bored bring exposed for what they are on here
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 14:23 - Aug 4 with 4231 viewsMarjorie_Plane

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 10:37 - Aug 3 by Alan_ADale

i bet these dodgy dealers are anything but bored bring exposed for what they are on here


Oh my.... my oh my... the latest post by RAFCBLUE - I'm not bored any longer...
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 15:25 - Aug 4 with 4179 viewsRAFCBLUE

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 15:00 - Aug 2 by Sandyman

What scandal, Marjorie!


Scandal? That's saved for who did what on what stag do.

Not paying your VAT is criminal!

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 19:53 - Aug 5 with 3931 viewsDenise_V_Courtnell

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 15:25 - Aug 4 by RAFCBLUE

Scandal? That's saved for who did what on what stag do.

Not paying your VAT is criminal!


Leave my boys alone... what stag do?
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 20:06 - Aug 5 with 3881 viewsD_Alien

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 19:53 - Aug 5 by Denise_V_Courtnell

Leave my boys alone... what stag do?


It's uncanny

For all the apparent differences in background and geography, there's a notable similarity between your prose style and that of our very own Marjorie

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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 20:45 - Aug 5 with 3764 viewsSalegraham

PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 19:53 - Aug 5 by Denise_V_Courtnell

Leave my boys alone... what stag do?


Leave OUR CLUB alone !! Then we'll leave your boy's alone
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 10:41 - Aug 7 with 3440 viewsMarjorie_Plane

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/fa-probes-c
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 15:01 - Aug 8 with 3269 viewsAndyH

Find below a number of addresses that you may find useful and please, just jot down a few lines to these people to make them aware of the potential injustice on the cards here. If each one of us sends a letter then it may make them take notice. No one on this forum likes to mention bury and their demise, but if we ALL don't take a stance against these imposters to our game and our club then we we will be the bury of the future. This is our club!

#UpthedaleNotforsale

Sir Tony Lloyd MP
23 The Wheatsheaf,
Baillie St,
Rochdale
OL16 1JZ


Sir Tony Lloyd MP
House of Commons,
London.
SW1A 0AA

mailto:Tony.lloyd.mp@parliament.uk


Chris Clarkson MP
House of Commons,
London.
SW1A 0AA

mailto:Chris.clarkson.mp@parliament.uk


Rick Parry (Chair)
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU


Trevor Birch (Chief Executive)
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU

Debbie Jevans CBE
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU

Andy Burnham (Mayor)
GMCA
Tootal Buildings,
56 Oxford St,
Manchester.
M1 6EU
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PAYING YOUR VAT / Why Darrell Rose MUST fail the EFL owners test (part 3) on 08:56 - Aug 19 with 2977 viewsUpTheDaleNotForSale

seems to be a fair amount of press interest this week - lots of queries coming in on social media, so giving these threads a bump.

Twitter : @DaleNotForSale Facebook : facebook.com/upthedalenotforsale

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