| Pubs on hold...? 14:06 - Jul 1 with 7845 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
Don’t plan that trip to the local just yet. Sky news reporting that Rochdale is in the top 4 areas in England for coronavirus cases due to a spike in infections (numbers infected per 100000 people).
Top 4- Leicester (already locked down), Bradford, Barnsley & us. Govt actively considering local lockdown measures unless there’s an improvement. Aaargh!!! [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 14:09]
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| Pubs on hold...? on 18:58 - Jul 1 with 2564 views | mingthemerciless |
| Pubs on hold...? on 17:02 - Jul 1 by BartRowou |
Weren't Rochdale's schools closed for most of June? If they'd opened on June 1, I imagine the figures would have been much higher. Apologies if completely wrong. |
My wife is a governor on two local primary schools. They've been open all the time for key workers kids plus those thought to be vulnerable. |  | | |
| Pubs on hold...? on 19:02 - Jul 1 with 2542 views | nordenblue |
| Pubs on hold...? on 18:58 - Jul 1 by mingthemerciless |
My wife is a governor on two local primary schools. They've been open all the time for key workers kids plus those thought to be vulnerable. |
Most primary schools have remained open throughout for keyworker children and even during the holidays near me it seems, my little girls local primary in Salford increased the intake massively during the last couple of weeks possibly even doubled in number. | | | |
| Pubs on hold...? on 19:09 - Jul 1 with 2524 views | BartRowou |
| Pubs on hold...? on 18:58 - Jul 1 by mingthemerciless |
My wife is a governor on two local primary schools. They've been open all the time for key workers kids plus those thought to be vulnerable. |
Yep - sorry. What I meant was Rochdale didn't reopen for Rec, y1 and y6 at the same time as other local authorities (e.g. Olham reopened for those year groups on June 1st).
I was suggesting that if they had, there would have been more children in Rochdale schools from the start of June which might have made the current situation a lot worse in Rochdale, children being "super spreaders" as Hancock clearly alluded to in the Commons the other night when discussing the Leicester situation. |  |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 20:05 - Jul 1 with 2425 views | D_Alien |
| Pubs on hold...? on 19:09 - Jul 1 by BartRowou |
Yep - sorry. What I meant was Rochdale didn't reopen for Rec, y1 and y6 at the same time as other local authorities (e.g. Olham reopened for those year groups on June 1st).
I was suggesting that if they had, there would have been more children in Rochdale schools from the start of June which might have made the current situation a lot worse in Rochdale, children being "super spreaders" as Hancock clearly alluded to in the Commons the other night when discussing the Leicester situation. |
Children aren't superspreaders - just the opposite in fact
Can you provide a link to Matt Hancock saying that?
Plus, the BBC are calling the linking of towns listed just below Leicester as being at risk of imminent lockdown as fake news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/53248531 |  |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 20:11 - Jul 1 with 2397 views | isitme |
| Pubs on hold...? on 20:05 - Jul 1 by D_Alien |
Children aren't superspreaders - just the opposite in fact
Can you provide a link to Matt Hancock saying that?
Plus, the BBC are calling the linking of towns listed just below Leicester as being at risk of imminent lockdown as fake news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/53248531 |
That's exactly what I was thinking regarding Children.
With the fall in deaths and infections the media need to create scare stories for clicks. Data raises questions but does not provide answers, especially if the data is out of date.
Context is always needed. Introduce one of the only walk up testing centres in the countries and you will get more people getting tested as it's easier to get tested. More tests, more infections detected.
Also it appears that there are a number of people who can't wait for another lockdown/second wave or other speed bumps in the return to near normality. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 20:21]
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| Pubs on hold...? on 20:40 - Jul 1 with 2355 views | D_Alien |
| Pubs on hold...? on 20:11 - Jul 1 by isitme |
That's exactly what I was thinking regarding Children.
With the fall in deaths and infections the media need to create scare stories for clicks. Data raises questions but does not provide answers, especially if the data is out of date.
Context is always needed. Introduce one of the only walk up testing centres in the countries and you will get more people getting tested as it's easier to get tested. More tests, more infections detected.
Also it appears that there are a number of people who can't wait for another lockdown/second wave or other speed bumps in the return to near normality. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 20:21]
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Re your last point: every 'speed bump' that happens is going to get exaggerated from now on. They're all predictable - and indeed have been predicted by the scientific community (in the case of localised lockdowns), economists (in the case of rising unemployment) and echoed during political briefings
They're then presented as if they're entirely unexpected. It's just further evidence of the degradation of reportage into hyperventilating panic | |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 21:08 - Jul 1 with 2306 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Pubs on hold...? on 20:05 - Jul 1 by D_Alien |
Children aren't superspreaders - just the opposite in fact
Can you provide a link to Matt Hancock saying that?
Plus, the BBC are calling the linking of towns listed just below Leicester as being at risk of imminent lockdown as fake news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/53248531 |
He did say this though. The health secretary told BBC Breakfast there had been "an unusually high incidence" of coronavirus among children in Leicester since increased testing began in the city 10 days ago. |  |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 21:50 - Jul 1 with 2262 views | D_Alien |
| Pubs on hold...? on 21:08 - Jul 1 by rochdaleriddler |
He did say this though. The health secretary told BBC Breakfast there had been "an unusually high incidence" of coronavirus among children in Leicester since increased testing began in the city 10 days ago. |
Yes, and that's fair enough. I'd imagine the public health people will be keeping an eye on the incidence among younger people elsewhere; there's always the chance of mutations in the virus with different effects | |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 08:56 - Jul 2 with 2072 views | BigDaveMyCock |
It’s ok, Donald Trump said yesterday that the coronavirus ‘will just sort of disappear’. If that doesn’t allay your fears then quite frankly I don’t know what will. | |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 10:12 - Jul 2 with 1998 views | DaleiLama |
| Pubs on hold...? on 08:56 - Jul 2 by BigDaveMyCock |
It’s ok, Donald Trump said yesterday that the coronavirus ‘will just sort of disappear’. If that doesn’t allay your fears then quite frankly I don’t know what will. |
Phew. That's a big relief. His handling of the pandemic in the US has been even more exemplary than our own (which is the sarcasm smiley)? Buying up world stocks of Remdesivir, which typically shortens patient hospital stays from an ave of 15 days to 11 at a cost of about £1600 vs prescribing dexamethasone at less than a tenner a pop which reduces death rates of critical patients on ave by 1/3 is a shrewd piece of strategy no? US health insurance/big pharma aside, I wonder if Trump owns Gilead shares like he had shares in the malaria treatment he was boosting but which he backed down from when medical advice showed it actually exacerbated conditions in some patients? It comes as no surprise that Covid has become a shrinking violet when faced with such a worthy opponent. |  |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 10:20 - Jul 2 with 1984 views | DaleiLama |
Trumps flock?
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| Pubs on hold...? on 10:41 - Jul 2 with 1941 views | finberty |
| Pubs on hold...? on 10:12 - Jul 2 by DaleiLama |
Phew. That's a big relief. His handling of the pandemic in the US has been even more exemplary than our own (which is the sarcasm smiley)? Buying up world stocks of Remdesivir, which typically shortens patient hospital stays from an ave of 15 days to 11 at a cost of about £1600 vs prescribing dexamethasone at less than a tenner a pop which reduces death rates of critical patients on ave by 1/3 is a shrewd piece of strategy no? US health insurance/big pharma aside, I wonder if Trump owns Gilead shares like he had shares in the malaria treatment he was boosting but which he backed down from when medical advice showed it actually exacerbated conditions in some patients? It comes as no surprise that Covid has become a shrinking violet when faced with such a worthy opponent. |
I'm still waiting for the splendid day when he demonstrates to the watching world how his very own cure will work. I think it involved consuming or injecting disinfectant.
What is he waiting for? |  | | |
| Pubs on hold...? on 11:19 - Jul 2 with 1893 views | Nigeriamark |
| Pubs on hold...? on 15:14 - Jul 1 by SuddenLad |
These individual lockdown proposals are a direct result of people having stuck up two fingers to the requests for social distancing and applying the rules.
Simply attending raves, group gatherings, demonstrations and the like is now resurfacing in the wider community and yet again, the majority will have to be restricted because of the crass actions of a few who couldn't be arsed to conform - and probably still won't.
Long way to go yet... |
It's not just a few. I was amazed that 500,000 turned up and stayed at those Bournmouth beaches. Any event outside carries less of a risk than an event indoors, but even so at those numbers the virus will still have some impact |  | | |
| Pubs on hold...? on 12:42 - Jul 2 with 1813 views | DaleiLama |
| Pubs on hold...? on 10:41 - Jul 2 by finberty |
I'm still waiting for the splendid day when he demonstrates to the watching world how his very own cure will work. I think it involved consuming or injecting disinfectant.
What is he waiting for? |
Under the heading "only in America", churchgoers must remain 6 feet apart, whilst lap dancing clubs remain open with no restrictions.  | |
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| Pubs on hold...? on 14:25 - Jul 2 with 1686 views | Dalenet |
| Pubs on hold...? on 16:06 - Jul 1 by SuddenLad |
You need to check the mass gatherings on the streets of Leicester in the past few weeks. Widely referred to earlier today on various media channels. |
More to this than we might expect. If protests were a big factor why are most London boroughs running at barely 5% of the level being seen in Rochdale? Newcastle has had big city protests but the infection rate there is less than 10% that in Rochdale. Something doesn't stack up - either testing data is useless or there is a widespread behavioural challenge in the community. | | | |
| Pubs on hold...? on 17:19 - Jul 2 with 1550 views | tony_roch975 |
| Pubs on hold...? on 14:25 - Jul 2 by Dalenet |
More to this than we might expect. If protests were a big factor why are most London boroughs running at barely 5% of the level being seen in Rochdale? Newcastle has had big city protests but the infection rate there is less than 10% that in Rochdale. Something doesn't stack up - either testing data is useless or there is a widespread behavioural challenge in the community. |
depends how many tests are undertaken - Rochdale has the first ever walk-up test centre so maybe we're just testing more of those who are susceptible to being infected. We're 17th out of 160 local authorities for rate of confirmed cases but 59th for deaths. | |
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