| In defence of Huw Jenkins 21:35 - Dec 27 with 10388 views | chessgenius |
After reading the critics of Huw Jenkins on this forum I feel we need a reality check. I feel that the situation we have found ourselves in is due to the excessive money we are paying players to play for us as our location is perhaps less glamorous than maybe a London or big city club like Liverpool or Manchester.
The board must ensure at all costs that the books are balanced at the end of the day to ensure professional football continues in a Swansea. To this end, Huw Jenkins and the board should be applauded for the way that they have managed the finances over the last ten or so years.
It seems clear to me that gates of 20000 or so are not enough to maintain a Premier League club unless a multi millionaire is prepared to bankroll the club like Bournemouth.
This is why the board were so keen to increase capacity and maybe are looking at renam8ng rights for the stadium together with increased commercial opportunities.
The only black mark I can see is the amount of investment the American owners are making. You have to speculate to accumulate.
Regarding our current position, I fear that the team need a root and branch clear out of the deadwood as team performances are at times gutless. This can only be achieved with a new manager supported by Leon Britton and Alan Curtis to revert to our Swanselona style.
To this end our recruitment needs to be much better attracting players who are comfortable on the ball, with pace up front and a solid defence with a solid midfield.
To achieve this though, we may need to go down and come back up again. |  | | |  |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:04 - Dec 27 with 2172 views | Private_Partz |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:00 - Dec 27 by bermudajack |
You call this a reality check???
This is slightly more dreamland rather than a reality check...
Terrific job for over 10 years, however sold us to a US based hedge fund with no investment, poor players, paying players too much, poor player recruitment team, need to go down to come back up again...
Ask Leeds, Blackburn, Wigan, Forest, Derby, Ipswich, Sheffield Wednesday, fans et al that coming straight back up is an easy task? |
I appreciate you weren't replying to me... I think ;-) |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:06 - Dec 27 with 2155 views | Joe_bradshaw |
I note that the case for the defence fails to address the major accusation of the prosecution. I refer to the underhand, slimy way in which a 21% shareholder was kept in the dark about the sale of the club that made Jenkins and others multi millionaires. That sale was contrary to numerous proclamations over many years that the club would be kept in safe hands if and when it was passed on. “Not just another football club “ and “by the fans for the fans” are now sick jokes and will be their legacy for evermore. All their good work in the past was destroyed in an instant.
As the case for the defence has failed to address the charge they are guilty as charged. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:11 - Dec 27 with 2110 views | max936 |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:06 - Dec 27 by Joe_bradshaw |
I note that the case for the defence fails to address the major accusation of the prosecution. I refer to the underhand, slimy way in which a 21% shareholder was kept in the dark about the sale of the club that made Jenkins and others multi millionaires. That sale was contrary to numerous proclamations over many years that the club would be kept in safe hands if and when it was passed on. “Not just another football club “ and “by the fans for the fans” are now sick jokes and will be their legacy for evermore. All their good work in the past was destroyed in an instant.
As the case for the defence has failed to address the charge they are guilty as charged. |
They should be sent to Gallows for Treason or at least sent to the Tower and fed on stale bread and stale water, Swansea people these are mind. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:13 - Dec 27 with 2108 views | westside |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 21:52 - Dec 27 by chessgenius |
This is not a wind up and I am not Huw Jenkins or speak on his behalf. Huw Jenkins is not head of recruitment he relies on his head of recruitment to recruit players the club need. I suspect that Paul Clement had major input in bringing Sanchez and Abraham to Swansea. While Tammy has tried hard he cannot be first choice striker at his young age. Sanchez has been a disaster. I suspect that recruitment decided that Wilfred Bony was worth a try as Wilf is desperate to prove how good a striker he is. However, due to his lack of match practice and injury problems the team are missing out.
At the end of the day, recruitment can try try and sign anyone they feel can help the team but if the player does not want to join what can we do? This I feel is only going to get worse in January |
What terrible decisions to rely on some young inexperienced loan players to replace proven experienced players of our own |  | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:23 - Dec 27 with 2046 views | Yossarian |
No he wasnt. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:27 - Dec 27 with 2019 views | Landore_Jack |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:13 - Dec 27 by westside |
What terrible decisions to rely on some young inexperienced loan players to replace proven experienced players of our own |
Why did Jenkins and the board allow Llorente to leave on the last day of the transfer window? That was criminal. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:32 - Dec 27 with 2006 views | icecoldjack |
This is a wum and nothing else.
Jenkins did well in the lower leagues where Swans was a big fish and had a playing budget better than most, we were one of the best supported teams and also had people around who knew a thing or two about finding decent players . Flynn,jacket,reeves,martinez .
Once Roberto sussed out the system of play it was harder to fook it up than get it wrong.
Let's not forget there were also plenty of huw fook ups along the way there too. David edger loan etc,etc .
The only one Huw fluke was Rodgers who again knew his players like Sinclair and boring. The moment we went up was the moment the club needed to be professional. They had a season's grace but Laudrup really highlighted all the short comings in Jenkins early on .
The rest is history and plenty had Jenkins card marked years ago. Happy clappers thought they knew best though
The bloke should never be allowed to walk the streets of swansea again . |  | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:37 - Dec 27 with 1987 views | Ebo |
He's running the club like he did his old businesses and we know how that all ended. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:57 - Dec 27 with 1923 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 21:53 - Dec 27 by Neath_Jack |
And i can tell you with good authority that the yanks have very recently appointed the architects to get the design done and engage contractors. They are going ahead with the expansion. |
Who told you that? I'm pretty sure its bollocks. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 23:03 - Dec 27 with 1895 views | skettyparkherbert |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:57 - Dec 27 by Bobby_Fischer |
Who told you that? I'm pretty sure its bollocks. |
I can't see how 8 to 10 thousand extra seats will bring in that much more match day revenue in the premier league?
Newcastle have 55 thousand every game but they went down as did Leeds Sunderland both Sheffield clubs, Forrest.
All these clubs and more in the lower leagues have bigger grounds than us but that doesn't mean if they get into the premier league they will succeed | | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 23:17 - Dec 27 with 1854 views | Garyjack |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 21:53 - Dec 27 by Neath_Jack |
And i can tell you with good authority that the yanks have very recently appointed the architects to get the design done and engage contractors. They are going ahead with the expansion. |
If that's true then i'm now officially absolutely terrified!  |  | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 23:27 - Dec 27 with 1841 views | Jokeren1943 |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:27 - Dec 27 by Landore_Jack |
Why did Jenkins and the board allow Llorente to leave on the last day of the transfer window? That was criminal. |
Because they had signed Bony and they thought he would be a fine replacement.
Which he hasn't. |  | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 00:10 - Dec 28 with 1754 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:01 - Dec 27 by TheFranchise |
"Head of recruitment"
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Got to be one of his kids writing that surely? Or a wum from down the road? Best thing for threads like these is to chuck them into the internet crematorium |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 00:44 - Dec 28 with 1715 views | Jacket |
Huw Jenkins sold his soul for five pieces of silver, and in so doing sold this club down the river, undoing every good decision and everything else he did for this club. It's a tragedy really for him personally and for this football club, something he brought upon himself and upon all of us. One day he may realise what he's done, but his ego and sheer hubris is making him unable to see that, and unable to see that the best thing he can do now is to leave, before he undoes any more of his past good work. | | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 01:24 - Dec 28 with 1677 views | Loyal |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 21:46 - Dec 27 by jacksfullaces |
increased capacity .. that ship sailed about 4 years ago.
12,000 in the Championship, no increase needed. |
Everyone knows it starts in January.
BTW on a serious note, win games full stadium, no matter which league web are in. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 06:39 - Dec 28 with 1598 views | PawelAbbott |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 23:03 - Dec 27 by skettyparkherbert |
I can't see how 8 to 10 thousand extra seats will bring in that much more match day revenue in the premier league?
Newcastle have 55 thousand every game but they went down as did Leeds Sunderland both Sheffield clubs, Forrest.
All these clubs and more in the lower leagues have bigger grounds than us but that doesn't mean if they get into the premier league they will succeed |
Even if the capacity was increased to 30,000 at £400 a season ticket that is £4m a season.
That is about the same as 2 league positions in prize money.
Expanding the ground will only serve to give the owners a larger asset when it comes time to sell up, the same as the 2 state of the art training facilities. Realistically 1 would have sufficed. | | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 07:41 - Dec 28 with 1554 views | dameedna |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:04 - Dec 27 by max936 |
What the fuk for, the team needs major investment not ground improvements, people on here are moaning about the Osprey crowd rattling around in an empty stadium, we'll have maybe 14, 15,000 next season, wft is the point of extending also where the fuk is the money coming from to pay for it? |
Still time for Abraham and Sanches to come good.
Move up the league and realise it was never our club in reality.
Reality check needed.
It is what it is.
Move on.
Edit not meant to quote m [Post edited 28 Dec 2017 8:20]
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 07:53 - Dec 28 with 1547 views | STID2017 |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 21:53 - Dec 27 by Neath_Jack |
And i can tell you with good authority that the yanks have very recently appointed the architects to get the design done and engage contractors. They are going ahead with the expansion. |
If this is the case then will they back it with money for immediate improvement of the team?
Otherwise we are going to fail to fill the seats we have now, especially if we go down.
I don't doubt your source, but there seems to be no logic behind an expansion, when next season we would struggle to get 15k in the Championship.
Even if there is a turnaround and we stay up, unless the football becomes better to watch then 20k is going to roughly the most we'd get for most games |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 08:41 - Dec 28 with 1497 views | monmouth |
What is the 21% shareholder’s view on the stadium lease and future plans I wonder.
Ffs say something about what’s going on with our club. Williams? Woof woof. And while you are at it, why haven’t you gone yet?
Also, can you confirm that the Yee Has understand the implications of relegation and know that when we were last mid table championship we were getting 12k and that the future business plans safeguard our club. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 08:46 - Dec 28 with 1474 views | Neath_Jack |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 22:57 - Dec 27 by Bobby_Fischer |
Who told you that? I'm pretty sure its bollocks. |
It's my business to know it.
I'm not in the slightest bothered if you think it's bollocks my friend, i hope that they see how ridiculous the plan is and go no further with it. But in the last month, the wheels have been set in motion.
I'm sure the Trust will have been consulted on it, and will confirm what i've said. If they haven't been told, then they need to make it their business to find out about it. |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 08:52 - Dec 28 with 1458 views | byron |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 21:56 - Dec 27 by max936 |
And this folks is the problem we've got, there are still far far to many who love Uncle Huw and still believe he's done a wonderful job ffs, None are so blind as those that can't see. |
Talking if which what’s happened to the hobby one? The res? An OP multi? |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 09:22 - Dec 28 with 1389 views | QJumpingJack |
What is the difference between Jenkins and Pearlman's role?
I expect Pealman is on a big salary. Will he remain at the club once we are relegated? ie can we afford to keep him on? | | | |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 09:28 - Dec 28 with 1368 views | whoflungdung |
St James Park capacity slightly smaller at 52000
Anyway, we need to move on somehow and not allow Jenkins personal profit to obsess us ,as it does. It's about to whom the club was sold not the sale itself.
If we were in good hands ,it wouldn't bother me how much the sellers made
Fact is, we are not and somehow need to tip this cowardly clown overboard to the sharks
I d like to see him come out and defend himself | |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 09:40 - Dec 28 with 1330 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
I agree it’s not just Jenkins fault
It’s also
morgan ,Dineen , van swedehead and all the other F@ckers selling out to an American hedge fund of Dr’s and actors behind a major shareholders back .
That’s the crux of this utter mess the club is in on and off the pitch |  |
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| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 09:42 - Dec 28 with 1320 views | Nookiejack |
| In defence of Huw Jenkins on 21:52 - Dec 27 by chessgenius |
This is not a wind up and I am not Huw Jenkins or speak on his behalf. Huw Jenkins is not head of recruitment he relies on his head of recruitment to recruit players the club need. I suspect that Paul Clement had major input in bringing Sanchez and Abraham to Swansea. While Tammy has tried hard he cannot be first choice striker at his young age. Sanchez has been a disaster. I suspect that recruitment decided that Wilfred Bony was worth a try as Wilf is desperate to prove how good a striker he is. However, due to his lack of match practice and injury problems the team are missing out.
At the end of the day, recruitment can try try and sign anyone they feel can help the team but if the player does not want to join what can we do? This I feel is only going to get worse in January |
So what exactly does he do if he isn’t ultimately responsible for recruitment?
Pearlman runs the Operations - so what does Huw Jenkins actually do - if Clement brought in Abraham and Sanches.
There is therefore no need for him.
He earns £500k a year - yes £500k a year and probably a bonus equivalent to that for each season we stayed up in the PL.
If he is not accountable for player recruitment what does he do?
Make the tea for £500k a year plus bonuses? | | | |
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