| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. 23:27 - Oct 3 with 7750 views | TheResurrection |
We've not even been that bad.
It's clear to everyone our attacking has left a lot to be desired. This has been the case for quite some time and it needs a lot of improving and an obvious change of mindset.
But, whilst we have disappointed in terms of seeing any fluidity or style of attack just yet, it's also important to note, apart from Man United, we've been right in every game until the death.
Fans can stamp their feet like spoilt kids and moan about a dim and distant past as if it was always so bloody glorious - laughable. But we've competed well, not spectacularly, but competed.
Watford have a good, athletic and footballing side, they are 6th and maybe the surprise side this season with a great manager. We could so easily have taken all 3 points off them and probably deserved to the way we fought our way back into the game.
Newcastle and Soton are more than holding their own and whilst both very beatable, by us, and others have made solid starts and make life tricky. Soton deserved to beat us, but they couldn't. We deserved to beat Newcastle, but lost.
Our points have come from Spurs and Palace and people have been too quick to knock both of these games from our perspective. Spurs was a back to the wall performance against arguably the best XI in the league. No matter how much our style changes we still won't be able to "turn it on" against the likes of these. Palace was never in doubt and comfortable from where I was sitting, yeah, we sat back but they never really looked like getting something. We were also in the middle of the window and this has clearly had a lasting impact and is still lingering now.
We've also gone away to West Ham and pretty much bossed the game. Yeah, we got done by a last minute sucker punch and for the second time in a week but again, the margins are so close.
The reasons given for a lack of cohesion just yet aren't excuses. We were late in the window and we didn't get all our targets. A Chadli coming in could well have made the difference in all these close encounters.
But we were right not to cross the greasy palm of Pullis with their ridiculous asking price.
Our squad does need time to settle. Bony needs a few more games but is already looking like the missing piece in the jigsaw. Sanches has improved with every outing (all bloody 3 of them)
Mesa hasn't even been given a chance....
We are not far away but don't let that get in the way of your constant bitchfest and sniping.
..... / ......
Box Office [Post edited 3 Oct 2017 23:29]
|  |
| |  |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 17:21 - Oct 4 with 1704 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 14:33 - Oct 4 by swan65split |
Players wages.....a club like Swansea in the top league would have to pay top dollar to get anyone here.
Transfer fees and Manager pay offs, all since Laudrup.......questions your comment about the club being run the right way?! 
Whatever happened at that tine has totally fecked up the club and the system. |
I did not make any comment about the club being run the right way. |  | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 17:30 - Oct 4 with 1685 views | swan65split |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 17:21 - Oct 4 by A_Fans_Dad |
I did not make any comment about the club being run the right way. |
My Apologies. 
I have someones comments in my mind who says hes happy(boards happy) with the way things are done/going. |  | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 17:56 - Oct 4 with 1666 views | BalhamSwan |
it's hard to look forward to a game or even want to go knowing we will have 0 shots on target all match. |  | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 18:30 - Oct 4 with 1640 views | swanaway |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 17:56 - Oct 4 by BalhamSwan |
it's hard to look forward to a game or even want to go knowing we will have 0 shots on target all match. |
My worry after the West Ham performance is the substitutions made at a crucial time. If Olsson was injured then fair enough, but the lack of cover needs to be addressed. I shall keep the faith for a while longer.  | | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 20:04 - Oct 4 with 1580 views | Meraki |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 18:33 - Oct 4 by Loyal |
The finest moments in our history.
Simple. 👠|
Nah winning Laudrup was only trying to win cups and playing in Europe for personal glory.  | | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 21:23 - Oct 4 with 1544 views | bonymine |
I think that Mesa has to start against Huddersfield to get that ball moving like Leon at last and drop Carroll as he's too weak but only picked as he's our 'dead ball specialist' after Siggy.....
Tammy and Wilf (if fit) up front Ayew in behind we have to create lots more at this level to survive ......
STID 🤞🤞🤞🤞. Together Stronger 💪💪💪 |  |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 21:35 - Oct 4 with 1529 views | Dr_Winston |
The most frustrating thing is that we're performing below our abilities at present. There's enough attacking talent in this squad to do a lot better than three goals in seven games, it's just not happening.
Sadly a chunk of that appears to be down to PC. His steadfast refusal to countenance playing with width and baffling return to a midfield diamond that bored the shit out of everyone when Garry Monk tried it doesn't help matters at all. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 21:59 - Oct 4 with 1498 views | TheResurrection |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 21:23 - Oct 4 by bonymine |
I think that Mesa has to start against Huddersfield to get that ball moving like Leon at last and drop Carroll as he's too weak but only picked as he's our 'dead ball specialist' after Siggy.....
Tammy and Wilf (if fit) up front Ayew in behind we have to create lots more at this level to survive ......
STID 🤞🤞🤞🤞. Together Stronger 💪💪💪 |
I would say the most we've all enjoyed this season has been the second half against Watford. I know some even knocked that but that's showing their misgivings, that was an exciting half. It makes it all the more unforgivable Clement dropped Mesa the following game!!!
And, Mesa and Carroll ran the show that half of football, so I think it's worth giving them another go v Huddersfield.
---------------------- Fab ------------------------
------------ Fede ----------- Maws ------------
Naughts ------------------------------ Olsson
-------------------- Mesa -----------------------
Sanches ------------------------------- Carroll
-------------------- Ayew ------------------------
---- Tammy ----------------- Bony -------------
I would be happy with a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 or even another variation of 4-4-2 and for Clucas or Leon to come in at a push, but Mesa HAS to start.
It's time we asked serious questions of the manager if he's left out again.
Costalotta.
I can't have all that list, it's just not fair on any club the criticisms mentioned in that list. Yeah, I'd like to see a new recruitment strategy in place but it's not as easy as that and we're not the only ones who moan about the window. This often comes from a manager that's come and we don't know 100% how much input Clement put in. I would say quite significant knowing now that he doesn't like wingers.
Player retention you can forget at a club like ours, it's not even an option. We can't afford to leave an Alexi Sanches run down the final year of his contract to give an exaggerated example.
Scouting is yet again something every club will moan at and every now and again get right. Often depends on said manager as above, but mostly the same clubs are fighting over the same players within their budget range. This area has got more and more difficult in the modern era and work permits restrict clubs in Britain more than in some other Euro countries.
Cash flow is tight, it's always going to be tight, there is no evidence and never has been to suggest this isn't managed anything else than extremely well.
The Trust relationship is clearly the best it's been in years, at least if you ask the Trust people that is. And it's them the members have elected to look after our affairs so there's not a lot we can argue about there. The Trust took a proposition to the owners, they listened and cut them a deal. The Trust advised its members it's the right one - whether you, me or the gatepost agrees with that, it shows their relationship must be pretty strong.
Jobs for the boys and HJ? Huh, HJ still owns a part of the Club and he and other Directors brokered the deal. with the other new owners. They all had a right to decide what went on and who would get what, once agreed, even if it was done away from the Trust - another issue for another day.
The disparity between Board members can occur in any Boardroom, I'm guessing you mean the Bob Bradley saga. This was a concern at the time but you could argue lessons have been learned and they were teething problems. The release of funds for January and decent amount of spending in this window would suggest it's all pretty normal.
Aside from all this off the field we seem a lot more commercially astute and professional. The website, communication, media, fan zone, commercial partners/advertising etc, all seems excellent from the outside looking in. Stadium expansion is also on the cards and something every fan has been crying out for for years.
Your list just didn't stack up and there is nothing glaringly obvious wrong with the running of the Club. It's just a lot different to how it was 5 to 10 years ago. | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 22:28 - Oct 4 with 1451 views | TheResurrection |
Well yeah, of course I will... what a farce.
Cascarino??? DO you think he watched the game even? Maybe he did, maybe he just needed to fill column inches in the Times.
He said:
"Bony looks so far away from his old form I’m not sure how long it will take him to get it back – if he ever will. He was so lazy and looked uninterested – he only had 13 touches, right, none inside the box, and was taken off at half-time."
What a load of tosh. Not one Swans fan has said this about Bony, in fact, he's looked completely the opposite. He's looked like it matters the world to him and when he comes off the pitch he's absolutely drenched in sweat. He's talking and cajoling his team mates, back helming out in defence and looking to come deep for the ball, successfully too against West Ham.
13 touches is more than Siggy gets in a typical half. And he was taken off due to a tight hamstring and definitely not tactical.
If you are going to listen to crap like that then forget about it mate. | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 22:35 - Oct 4 with 1431 views | TheResurrection |
Just read the other one and no mention of lazy and uninterested.
So your earlier comments of sports journalists and ex players you were actually talking about 1 guy and the 1 guy was Tony Facking Cascarino?
Come on mate, you've let yourself down here big time.
Up it. | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 22:35 - Oct 4 with 1430 views | SPboy |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 22:28 - Oct 4 by TheResurrection |
Well yeah, of course I will... what a farce.
Cascarino??? DO you think he watched the game even? Maybe he did, maybe he just needed to fill column inches in the Times.
He said:
"Bony looks so far away from his old form I’m not sure how long it will take him to get it back – if he ever will. He was so lazy and looked uninterested – he only had 13 touches, right, none inside the box, and was taken off at half-time."
What a load of tosh. Not one Swans fan has said this about Bony, in fact, he's looked completely the opposite. He's looked like it matters the world to him and when he comes off the pitch he's absolutely drenched in sweat. He's talking and cajoling his team mates, back helming out in defence and looking to come deep for the ball, successfully too against West Ham.
13 touches is more than Siggy gets in a typical half. And he was taken off due to a tight hamstring and definitely not tactical.
If you are going to listen to crap like that then forget about it mate. |
and Chris Wathan states ... “He was right to question the quality of the final passes and right to question the overly static nature of the strikers. Lack of service, yes, but the lack of movement was equally concerning.”
No links to back up your views then? |  | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 22:57 - Oct 4 with 1399 views | TheResurrection |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 22:35 - Oct 4 by SPboy |
and Chris Wathan states ... “He was right to question the quality of the final passes and right to question the overly static nature of the strikers. Lack of service, yes, but the lack of movement was equally concerning.”
No links to back up your views then? |
Sorry, but that doesn't say lazy, unfit and uninterested now does it. 1 person wrote those words. Cascarino 
Links for my own views? WTF? | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 01:47 - Oct 5 with 1334 views | Chief |
The fact is, if Siggy was still playing in this team the OP would be berating him and the rest of the team from the rooftops.
All hes trying to do is justify his ridiculous past statements.
"The new and improved Swansea City"
Laughable |  |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 09:08 - Oct 5 with 1250 views | monmouth |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 22:35 - Oct 4 by SPboy |
and Chris Wathan states ... “He was right to question the quality of the final passes and right to question the overly static nature of the strikers. Lack of service, yes, but the lack of movement was equally concerning.”
No links to back up your views then? |
Was it your view that Bony was lazy and disinterested SP? I wasn’t at the game, but I didn’t get that impression from the recording. Abraham didn’t move much from what I could see, but anything good we did seemed to involve Bony. |  |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 09:11 - Oct 5 with 1248 views | whoflungdung |
The players we have brought in over several seasons would suggest wecre not well run.Anything but.
We ve amateurs running a massive business | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 09:50 - Oct 5 with 1229 views | SPboy |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 09:08 - Oct 5 by monmouth |
Was it your view that Bony was lazy and disinterested SP? I wasn’t at the game, but I didn’t get that impression from the recording. Abraham didn’t move much from what I could see, but anything good we did seemed to involve Bony. |
No, not my words, I watched a live stream. I was merely making the point that Bony has been less than flattering & questioning where The Res sees so much optimism that nobody else is able to. I am not convinced Bony will recover the goal scoring form of his first spell with us. The players around him are not good enough & he will take time to settle back in. Time that we haven’t got at the moment. I can’t fathom out why it was left so late to sign him unless of course he was plan B with Llorente to stay plan A.
I have been unable to find any articles that shine a light with any optimism on Bony, the coach or the team, which I believe reflects the view of most fans.
These are just some words that I referred to from one article:
“Tammy Abraham is only 20 and on Saturday when he partnered Wilfried Bony for Swansea against West Ham, he looked like he could have been playing alongside his dad. Bony looks so far away from his old form I’m not sure how long it ill take him to get it back – if he ever will. He was so lazy and looked uninterested ...” | | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 10:16 - Oct 5 with 1210 views | Darran |
I think one of the biggest problems is that so many of our fans went metal and expected us to be in the CL places now after we signed *a player that had barely played for two years and a little boy from Bayern Munich.
*Thats not to say they won't come good |  |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 11:48 - Oct 5 with 1162 views | MoscowJack |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 10:16 - Oct 5 by Darran |
I think one of the biggest problems is that so many of our fans went metal and expected us to be in the CL places now after we signed *a player that had barely played for two years and a little boy from Bayern Munich.
*Thats not to say they won't come good |
Definite over-exaggeration.
I think most were very excited about Sanches and hopeful about Bony, but I think that most thought that mid-table would be a decent finish even if they both performed.
The fact of the matter is we NEED them both to perform or our season's going to be more than difficult. In fact, I think we'll go down if both Bony and Sanches aren't able to perform a lot better than they have so far. I think we all agree that they need more time and more game-time to get up to speed but if they eventually don't deliver, I don't think we have the quality in the rest of the squad to stay up.
Also, one other side issue is Bony needs service but who's going to provide it for him? Where are the crosses going to come from? Who's going to zip the ball into his feet to give him a chance to shoot? It's hard to see at the moment. | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 11:59 - Oct 5 with 1159 views | pencoedjack |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 11:48 - Oct 5 by MoscowJack |
Definite over-exaggeration.
I think most were very excited about Sanches and hopeful about Bony, but I think that most thought that mid-table would be a decent finish even if they both performed.
The fact of the matter is we NEED them both to perform or our season's going to be more than difficult. In fact, I think we'll go down if both Bony and Sanches aren't able to perform a lot better than they have so far. I think we all agree that they need more time and more game-time to get up to speed but if they eventually don't deliver, I don't think we have the quality in the rest of the squad to stay up.
Also, one other side issue is Bony needs service but who's going to provide it for him? Where are the crosses going to come from? Who's going to zip the ball into his feet to give him a chance to shoot? It's hard to see at the moment. |
Tom 'David Silva' Carroll apparently
As always a well balanced post Moscow. |  | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 12:05 - Oct 5 with 1156 views | MoscowJack |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 11:59 - Oct 5 by pencoedjack |
Tom 'David Silva' Carroll apparently
As always a well balanced post Moscow. |
Thanks pencoedjack!
Tom "David Silva" Carroll needs to stop hiding behind some of the performances of last season. He was superb in some games back then, but has been far from impressive so far. I'd like to see how many kms he covers now, compared to last season. Not because the total number of kms makes him a better player but last season he seemed to offer the overlap a lot more and got some incredible crosses in. He doesn't seem to want to offer that run now, but that could be down to orders from PC
One unlikely saviour COULD be Ki if he plays and succeeds in a more advanced role. It's a bit unlikely, but it's possible. | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 12:15 - Oct 5 with 1143 views | Darran |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 11:48 - Oct 5 by MoscowJack |
Definite over-exaggeration.
I think most were very excited about Sanches and hopeful about Bony, but I think that most thought that mid-table would be a decent finish even if they both performed.
The fact of the matter is we NEED them both to perform or our season's going to be more than difficult. In fact, I think we'll go down if both Bony and Sanches aren't able to perform a lot better than they have so far. I think we all agree that they need more time and more game-time to get up to speed but if they eventually don't deliver, I don't think we have the quality in the rest of the squad to stay up.
Also, one other side issue is Bony needs service but who's going to provide it for him? Where are the crosses going to come from? Who's going to zip the ball into his feet to give him a chance to shoot? It's hard to see at the moment. |
What bit is over-exaggeration.
Social media,message boards went off the dial on the signing of a player that's barely played for two years and a young Portuguese boy.
Thats not an over-exaggeration it's a FACT.
I said in my post that's not to say they won't come good.
And on a side note we've been playing with another kid upfront for most of this season and even though he looks like he could be a very good player in the future it's a big ask for him to be carrying us on his shoulders and scoring regularly to keep us safe. | |
| |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 12:20 - Oct 5 with 1128 views | biggar |
Agree with a good bit of the opening post but no way on earth did we deserve to beat Newcastle. | | | |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 12:31 - Oct 5 with 1111 views | MoscowJack |
| Frustrating yes, but the whining on here doesn't justify our start. on 12:15 - Oct 5 by Darran |
What bit is over-exaggeration.
Social media,message boards went off the dial on the signing of a player that's barely played for two years and a young Portuguese boy.
Thats not an over-exaggeration it's a FACT.
I said in my post that's not to say they won't come good.
And on a side note we've been playing with another kid upfront for most of this season and even though he looks like he could be a very good player in the future it's a big ask for him to be carrying us on his shoulders and scoring regularly to keep us safe. |
The part where you wrote: "many of our fans went metal and expected us to be in the CL places". I don't think anyone expected anything above top 10 as the best case scenario. I can't remember anyone saying CL even once. Even the most deluded/optimistic thought top 8 at best, I think. | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
