| Ki or DeGuzman? 15:41 - Feb 23 with 8014 views | Starsky |
seeing as Ki has started scoring for the Swans now and will no doubt finish the season strongly.
With this in mind, who would you rather in your team next season (hypothetical I know)
Ki or DeGuzman?
Before Christmas I would have gone for DeGUzman. Now I would choose Ki.
He's my player of the season so far. |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 00:08 - Aug 12 with 2411 views | ScoobyWho |
Ki is a proven premier league player, JDG could have been, but decided to move on.
Never go back. |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 05:45 - Aug 12 with 2319 views | Dr_Winston |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 00:08 - Aug 12 by ScoobyWho |
Ki is a proven premier league player, JDG could have been, but decided to move on.
Never go back. |
JdG is also a proven Premier League player. And a proven La Liga player. And a proven Serie A player. |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 05:56 - Aug 12 with 2314 views | Townhill_Hilton |
Ki any day of the week. DeGuzman wouldn't get in the team now. |  | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 10:28 - Aug 12 with 2193 views | Dull1Thomas |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 05:45 - Aug 12 by Dr_Winston |
JdG is also a proven Premier League player. And a proven La Liga player. And a proven Serie A player. |
Don't forget proven World Cup player.
(Still amazed at his performances on that stage)
Different players in different roles. Siggy was brought in when JdG's wasn't retained / relined.
Have to say I he wan't one of my favourite players more the player you only noticed when he wasn't playing) but I was disappointed he wasn't signed.
Could he do a good job for us now? Definitely. |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 11:17 - Aug 12 with 2145 views | Senhin |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 10:28 - Aug 12 by Dull1Thomas |
Don't forget proven World Cup player.
(Still amazed at his performances on that stage)
Different players in different roles. Siggy was brought in when JdG's wasn't retained / relined.
Have to say I he wan't one of my favourite players more the player you only noticed when he wasn't playing) but I was disappointed he wasn't signed.
Could he do a good job for us now? Definitely. |
We used him in the box to box role quite a lot too...
Also, if we're going for the "proven world cup" player bit then yeah, as more of a squad player in a good side, whereas Ki is captain of his country. |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 12:23 - Aug 12 with 2095 views | somersetsimon |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 11:17 - Aug 12 by Senhin |
We used him in the box to box role quite a lot too...
Also, if we're going for the "proven world cup" player bit then yeah, as more of a squad player in a good side, whereas Ki is captain of his country. |
I was disappointed at the time when we couldn't hang on to him, but it's difficult to see him getting in the team now. We do seem to be progressing rapidly - maybe the management know what they're doing... |  | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 12:28 - Aug 12 with 2090 views | Dull1Thomas |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 11:17 - Aug 12 by Senhin |
We used him in the box to box role quite a lot too...
Also, if we're going for the "proven world cup" player bit then yeah, as more of a squad player in a good side, whereas Ki is captain of his country. |
No arguments there. | |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 13:06 - Aug 12 with 2048 views | karnataka |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 12:23 - Aug 12 by somersetsimon |
I was disappointed at the time when we couldn't hang on to him, but it's difficult to see him getting in the team now. We do seem to be progressing rapidly - maybe the management know what they're doing... |
Wasn't it more of a case of being disappointed that we didn't try to hang onto him? I know I was. I was a big fan of JdG and for 2 seasons, our style centred around him and Leon who both had the ability to find space and always give an option to whoever was in possession of the ball which kept our passing moves going and helped us retain possession. However, our style has changed now and we don't even have a space in the team for Leon. Having said that, it looked like Arsenal were after Ki in the summer and I would have been ok with JdG as a replacement but we don't need him as an addition with the midfield quality we have now. Liked his goal celebration though. |  | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 13:26 - Aug 12 with 2002 views | jasper_T |
Arsenal's interest in Ki was just paper talk spurred on by his dad talking shit in Korea. Never any hit of a real enquiry. | | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 13:31 - Aug 12 with 1998 views | attila_the_hun |
I remember the Gower or De Guzman thread a while back lol |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:17 - Aug 12 with 1968 views | ScoobyWho |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 05:45 - Aug 12 by Dr_Winston |
JdG is also a proven Premier League player. And a proven La Liga player. And a proven Serie A player. |
He walked away too quickly for me from the premier league. I thought he was excellent on his day, but Ki is a very special player. | |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:38 - Aug 12 with 1946 views | Dr_Winston |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:17 - Aug 12 by ScoobyWho |
He walked away too quickly for me from the premier league. I thought he was excellent on his day, but Ki is a very special player. |
He was one of our most important players for two of the best seasons in our history. Hard to get more proven than that. | |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:45 - Aug 12 with 1933 views | Jackfath |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:38 - Aug 12 by Dr_Winston |
He was one of our most important players for two of the best seasons in our history. Hard to get more proven than that. |
And to think, our previous manager wanted rid. |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 15:25 - Aug 12 with 1898 views | ScoobyWho |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:38 - Aug 12 by Dr_Winston |
He was one of our most important players for two of the best seasons in our history. Hard to get more proven than that. |
I liked him a lot, but felt he had more to prove as a top rate player like Gylfi or Ki. Opinions
mind .... | |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 15:53 - Aug 12 with 1759 views | giantstoneater |
JDG scored a variety of goals for us scorchers tap ins and team goals possibly more adaptable than Ki also able to play out wide but alas he has moved on. To be honest I like them both but perhaps in GMs era JDG hasn't got the physicality needed. |  | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 16:41 - Aug 12 with 1733 views | Dull1Thomas |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:45 - Aug 12 by Jackfath |
And to think, our previous manager wanted rid. |
Wasn't he shipped out after going back to Korea because he was 'injured' after being told to stay with the club? Or was it when he was 'injured' after reaching his guaranteed 20 games?
I'd have Ki as one of the must have players in the starting line up now but, and here's the thing about Ki' first season, he wasn't very good and had a big attitude (or at least Daddy did).
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 17:20 - Aug 12 with 1702 views | DafyddHuw |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 05:56 - Aug 12 by Townhill_Hilton |
Ki any day of the week. DeGuzman wouldn't get in the team now. |
Nonsense |  | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 19:15 - Aug 12 with 1642 views | slate_dk |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 16:41 - Aug 12 by Dull1Thomas |
Wasn't he shipped out after going back to Korea because he was 'injured' after being told to stay with the club? Or was it when he was 'injured' after reaching his guaranteed 20 games?
I'd have Ki as one of the must have players in the starting line up now but, and here's the thing about Ki' first season, he wasn't very good and had a big attitude (or at least Daddy did).
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Ki, himself has said that he learned from the Sunderland experience; and after returning Monk had a talk with him about what Monk wanted from him... and all has been dandy since | | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 23:26 - Aug 12 with 1587 views | Drizzy |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:38 - Aug 12 by Dr_Winston |
He was one of our most important players for two of the best seasons in our history. Hard to get more proven than that. |
Pfft. One of our most important? You're having a laugh. Top player was JdG but Ki is all-round a better player. |  |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 01:33 - Aug 13 with 1537 views | jazzswan |
KI | | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 04:06 - Aug 13 with 1513 views | Zut_Alors |
I enjoyed watching JDG playing for us and think he'd still be a good addition to the squad. In fact, JDG would probably have been excellent for the diamond system Monk tried at the end of last season. |  | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 13:23 - Aug 13 with 1451 views | karnataka |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 14:17 - Aug 12 by ScoobyWho |
He walked away too quickly for me from the premier league. I thought he was excellent on his day, but Ki is a very special player. |
The impression I got at the time was that if we'd made any real effort to keep him, he'd probably have stayed but we didn't and he couldn't just hang around on the off chance. | | | |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 13:35 - Aug 13 with 1446 views | JackSomething |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 16:41 - Aug 12 by Dull1Thomas |
Wasn't he shipped out after going back to Korea because he was 'injured' after being told to stay with the club? Or was it when he was 'injured' after reaching his guaranteed 20 games?
I'd have Ki as one of the must have players in the starting line up now but, and here's the thing about Ki' first season, he wasn't very good and had a big attitude (or at least Daddy did).
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This. Ki was not very good at all in his first season here. Never looked comfortable trying anything other than the most simple passes and seemed to panic if he had it anywhere near the opposition penalty area.
He then had his year away and came back last season looking like a totally different player. We can debate whether that was down to more experience of this league, the change of manager, etc...
For a while it looked like he was going to be the black sheep of our 12/13 summer signings - Ki, Michu, Chico, Pablo, Bartley. Now he's turning out to be the best of them. Football eh? |  |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Ki or DeGuzman? on 16:14 - Aug 13 with 1372 views | nyc_swans |
| Ki or DeGuzman? on 13:35 - Aug 13 by JackSomething |
This. Ki was not very good at all in his first season here. Never looked comfortable trying anything other than the most simple passes and seemed to panic if he had it anywhere near the opposition penalty area.
He then had his year away and came back last season looking like a totally different player. We can debate whether that was down to more experience of this league, the change of manager, etc...
For a while it looked like he was going to be the black sheep of our 12/13 summer signings - Ki, Michu, Chico, Pablo, Bartley. Now he's turning out to be the best of them. Football eh? |
apparently JDG is being linked with a 5M move to bournmouth.
would be sad to see him go there. |  | | |
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