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Olly Lancashire? 22:53 - Jan 26 with 9894 viewsRockerdale97

Okay i know he was playing against Walters and Co tonight. But he wasnt in the team when O'Connell was here this season What is the opinion of fellow daleys? I thought he was poor tonight. Header for the first goal wasnt great although the strike was out of this world, some of his distribution was shocking and he was putting pressure on the rest of the defence by doing this. Opinions?
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Olly Lancashire? on 23:01 - Jan 26 with 7568 viewsTiki_Beach

Think that's unfair criticism of Olly.

It was actually Lancashire and O'Connell who were our first team partnership last season and whenever O'Connell was out of the team, it was Olly that was the stronger out of him and Eastham. This season Eastham has been excellent and is rightly first choice but I actually thought Olly had a good game tonight, as did all the lads. The more Olly plays, the more he will get to grips with league 1. He hasn't played that much this season and he shouldn't be compared to a talent like O'Connell (although I understand why he is).
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Olly Lancashire? on 23:02 - Jan 26 with 7548 viewsDaley_Lama

Not as good as Puyol.

End of.

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Olly Lancashire? on 23:02 - Jan 26 with 7541 viewsSuddenLad

Thought Olly was well off his game tonight. He couldn't make a decent pass and looked completely out of sorts. Rather he had an off-day today than in a league match.

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Olly Lancashire? on 23:05 - Jan 26 with 7509 viewsRockerdale97

Olly Lancashire? on 23:01 - Jan 26 by Tiki_Beach

Think that's unfair criticism of Olly.

It was actually Lancashire and O'Connell who were our first team partnership last season and whenever O'Connell was out of the team, it was Olly that was the stronger out of him and Eastham. This season Eastham has been excellent and is rightly first choice but I actually thought Olly had a good game tonight, as did all the lads. The more Olly plays, the more he will get to grips with league 1. He hasn't played that much this season and he shouldn't be compared to a talent like O'Connell (although I understand why he is).


fair enough. Respect your opinion. Just watching him since JOC went back and keep thinkin to myself hes going to cock up any second. I hope he does prove me wrong.
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Olly Lancashire? on 23:06 - Jan 26 with 7489 views442Dale

Lancashire isn't as good as Eastham, that's the top and bottom of it. His thought processes remind me of McArdle, much better when defending instinctively.

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Olly Lancashire? on 23:10 - Jan 26 with 7455 viewsD_Alien

Anyone who read the Sunday Times article about Olly sharing youth-team digs with the likes of Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott and Adam Lallana might reflect that tonight he wanted to show he still had potential for higher things. Unfortunately, he showed he didn't. Still a good player for the Dale in L1 though.

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Olly Lancashire? on 23:10 - Jan 26 with 7452 viewsRockerdale97

Olly Lancashire? on 23:06 - Jan 26 by 442Dale

Lancashire isn't as good as Eastham, that's the top and bottom of it. His thought processes remind me of McArdle, much better when defending instinctively.


and Holness.
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Olly Lancashire? on 23:12 - Jan 26 with 7427 views442Dale

Olly Lancashire? on 23:10 - Jan 26 by Rockerdale97

and Holness.


Holness was much better in L1.

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Olly Lancashire? on 23:13 - Jan 26 with 7413 viewsTiki_Beach

Olly Lancashire? on 23:05 - Jan 26 by Rockerdale97

fair enough. Respect your opinion. Just watching him since JOC went back and keep thinkin to myself hes going to cock up any second. I hope he does prove me wrong.


I don't have as much confidence in him as JOC but at the same time, wouldn't consider him a weak link in the team. He's automatically going to be compared to JOC as it is his position that he has stepped into which probably makes it harder for him but I can see him improving as the season goes on.
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Olly Lancashire? on 23:13 - Jan 26 with 7412 viewsnordenblue

Olly Lancashire? on 23:06 - Jan 26 by 442Dale

Lancashire isn't as good as Eastham, that's the top and bottom of it. His thought processes remind me of McArdle, much better when defending instinctively.


Had an absolute shocker second half, cant understand why when hes just been caught on the ball with a stupid pass does he the second time while having an age to clear gets caught identically again minutes later, Tanser did exactly the same just after when under pressure.
Camps isn't half growing into a cracking player, Dawson will be sore tomorrow after his efforts and Bennett was class too.Id like to see goals 2 and 3 again as at the time it seemed like poor keeping from the Pearl Street
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Olly Lancashire? on 23:56 - Jan 26 with 7258 viewssandylaner1

i think both eastham and lancashire are solid enough defensively its just as ball playing centre halves which hilly wants them to be they are not quick or accurate enough in distribution

tonight being amplified by the quality of stokes pressing and without jamie allen there is no outlet to move the ball on through the middle. allen can find space or make an angle for lancy and eastham to play it into him
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Olly Lancashire? on 01:04 - Jan 27 with 7126 viewsbatfink

I don't like to criticise any of Hillys decisions but have to say I think Lancashire is the weak link, week in week out he makes glaring errors and gives the ball away with errant passes several times each and every game, personally I would rather see Dawson or (and here starts a discussion) Allen put on the captains armband as hes not captain material in my humble opinion.
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Olly Lancashire? on 01:31 - Jan 27 with 7097 viewsolympicdale

I don't think it is fair for any of the team tonight to be critisised, given who they were up against, this is not a night to be singling out anyone for criticism. Olly is a scapegoat at the back for many fans, a top quality defender,and he showed that against Forest, perfectly adaptable to League 1

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Olly Lancashire? on 01:37 - Jan 27 with 7091 viewsolympicdale

Olly Lancashire? on 01:04 - Jan 27 by batfink

I don't like to criticise any of Hillys decisions but have to say I think Lancashire is the weak link, week in week out he makes glaring errors and gives the ball away with errant passes several times each and every game, personally I would rather see Dawson or (and here starts a discussion) Allen put on the captains armband as hes not captain material in my humble opinion.
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I'd trust Hill's opinion, if he believes he's good enough to be captain than thats fine by me, he's the one that sees the players week in week out, and how other players respect one another.

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Olly Lancashire? on 02:05 - Jan 27 with 7081 viewsmacro

Lancashire is one of a handful of players who haven't made the transition to league one smoothly. Remember though easthams form has kept him out of the team the majority of the season. If o'connell comes back it'd most likely be Lancashire who drops out
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Olly Lancashire? on 02:25 - Jan 27 with 7073 viewstazzydjr

Why target Olly why target or any of the team they are capable of damaging bigger sides just look back 2 week ago at Andrew scoring the winner this negativity isn't needed

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Olly Lancashire? on 06:34 - Jan 27 with 6994 viewsaleanddale

Olly Lancashire? on 02:25 - Jan 27 by tazzydjr

Why target Olly why target or any of the team they are capable of damaging bigger sides just look back 2 week ago at Andrew scoring the winner this negativity isn't needed

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Unfair to single any player out after last night but olly I am sure will learn from that torrid 90 mins.
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Olly Lancashire? on 07:30 - Jan 27 with 6920 viewsisitme

Olly Lancashire? on 23:13 - Jan 26 by nordenblue

Had an absolute shocker second half, cant understand why when hes just been caught on the ball with a stupid pass does he the second time while having an age to clear gets caught identically again minutes later, Tanser did exactly the same just after when under pressure.
Camps isn't half growing into a cracking player, Dawson will be sore tomorrow after his efforts and Bennett was class too.Id like to see goals 2 and 3 again as at the time it seemed like poor keeping from the Pearl Street
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I think you are being a bit harsh on Lillis there. He had no chance with any of the goals. I half expected someone to post that Logan would have saved Bojan's strike!

Lancashire did okay defensively but struggled on the ball at times, that is why he is a League One centre back.
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Olly Lancashire? on 07:30 - Jan 27 with 6916 viewsSuddenLad

Olly Lancashire? on 02:25 - Jan 27 by tazzydjr

Why target Olly why target or any of the team they are capable of damaging bigger sides just look back 2 week ago at Andrew scoring the winner this negativity isn't needed

OLLY OLLY LANCASHIRE

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We're not singling anyone out really Taz. It's not a witch-hunt, merely an observation that Olly didn't have his best game in a Dale shirt. In tennis parlance 'too many unforced errors', but I'd happily see him line up in the next match.

We're all susceptible to' bad days at the office' and Olly had one yesterday.

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Olly Lancashire? on 08:25 - Jan 27 with 6829 viewsD_Alien

As posted earlier, you really did have to read his comments in the Sunday Times article to put his performance into context.

He sees himself as capable of performing at a higher level, having been educated in football alongside some very stellar players. Last night was his opportunity to show the public at large that's where he belongs - he said as much in the article! Each time he got the ball I thought he was looking to do something with it that made him look good instead of just concentrating on what he's there for - to defend. The result was he put in a shocker, but I hope he'll learn from it and just get back to basics.

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Olly Lancashire? on 08:44 - Jan 27 with 6785 viewsChaffRAFC

Thought Lancashire was really poor tonight and was nowhere to be seen when Ireland scored the second but that said, he did a fantastic job last season. He's not pushed on this season whereas Eastham has and now if we were to strengthen in that position (we need to), then it would be Olly that would drop out.

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Olly Lancashire? on 08:50 - Jan 27 with 6770 viewsnordenblue

Olly Lancashire? on 07:30 - Jan 27 by isitme

I think you are being a bit harsh on Lillis there. He had no chance with any of the goals. I half expected someone to post that Logan would have saved Bojan's strike!

Lancashire did okay defensively but struggled on the ball at times, that is why he is a League One centre back.
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Until ive seen the goals again ill reserve proper judgement but to be honest he is far too hesitant full stop, many of their dangerous balls whipped into the box where within his range and he just seems rooted to the spot every time.For me he doesnt command his box at all which leads to hesitancy all round and confusion when or if hes coming for a cross.
Theres not many keepers in the world that would have got near their first goal tbf
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Olly Lancashire? on 11:29 - Jan 27 with 6594 viewsTommoRAFC

Olly Lancashire? on 08:44 - Jan 27 by ChaffRAFC

Thought Lancashire was really poor tonight and was nowhere to be seen when Ireland scored the second but that said, he did a fantastic job last season. He's not pushed on this season whereas Eastham has and now if we were to strengthen in that position (we need to), then it would be Olly that would drop out.


Yaya was as much to blame for the second goal as anyone. Olly is a reliable centre half and league one, IMHO, is his ceiling ability-wise.

Should O'Connell and Logan return we know who they'd replace in the starting eleven anyway...

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Olly Lancashire? on 11:33 - Jan 27 with 6582 viewsParkinsGimp

Definitely the weak link tonight, think he panicked too much. But his distribution wss poor and caught out of position a bit.
Still was against the Premiership so hopefull he will brush this one aside and learn to focus more.
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Olly Lancashire? on 12:50 - Jan 27 with 6492 views100notout

Will be interesting to see the player ratings for this game.

As has been said the lads were up against top quality players so it was always going to be a big ask. Nevertheless they all stepped up the plate. The majority raised their game and can rightly be very proud of what they have done.

There were 2 or 3 players that "went missing" and will have got back to the dressing room afterwards and thought "maybe I could have done better"

I'm not going to name them - they know who they are and the management team know who they are and collectively they will sort it out I've no doubt.

Excellent game last night, great atmosphere, full home stands. Brilliant. Lets make sure that they all return for the important league games coming

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