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thought this might be an interesting debate.. what are peoples feelings.
I'm in a split mind when i read that players and the FA are clubbing togethor 40k to help him... I was always a big Gazza fan, and don't like to see that he's back drinking, and in hospital. But, its not the first time, and part of me feels that maybe this 40k could be spent helping a much larger number of people who actually stand a chance of reaping the rewards. Its a sad predicament, and ideally we should preserve our stars of old, as they encourage new stars etc... but... discuss
Gazza is a difficult case as the fella clearly has mental health issues and needs help, it's more than just being a drunk now, you only had to see his interview with Piers Morgan last year to see he is not a well man.
i'm not sure if paying for his treatment is the right thing to do but in the past the fa and pfa have just washed their hands of old pros and left them to struggle so it's good that this is hopefully changing.
I think that most people are fearing the worst and dont like to think that they just stood by without trying. Sometimes you have to do the right thing regardless of what you might get back .
Like relegation , you cant give up
When Gazza was at his best I bought all the WC qualifier tickets as a bundle , to see him play a few times was brilliant , He had Wembley in the palm of his hand .
The problem is he's a conference of different mental illnesses. He's almost the jackpot of multi mental illnesses. It's very sad because if you solve one problem another half dozen come up. Not sure where this is going to go beyond not good.
The poor fella is a lost cause. Would he be in this state if he had not become a footballer? The FA are suppose to look after players. For me the FA need to look at themselves regarding how young men in football are messing up their lives because of football. Fame, money, not always good for lads that just like playing football. Of course football has helped a lot of lads but to me there seems a high percentage of players in court or in the papers for the wrong thing. £40k is nothing in football.
The poor fella is a lost cause. Would he be in this state if he had not become a footballer? The FA are suppose to look after players. For me the FA need to look at themselves regarding how young men in football are messing up their lives because of football. Fame, money, not always good for lads that just like playing football. Of course football has helped a lot of lads but to me there seems a high percentage of players in court or in the papers for the wrong thing. £40k is nothing in football.
The easy answer is the Players Association have a fund, supported by all professional players to help people in this situation. There is enough money around football to make this feasible. A smallish amount every month and properly managed it should do the job.
The alcoholism is a symptom, in Gazza's case there are much wider mental health problems, anyone who has had a member of there family or close friend who suffers with mental illness knows its unlikely to be ever cured its just about managing it, and throughout the rest of their life there will be many episodes where they need help to manage it.
It is what it is, he needs help, he was an idol to many growing up, we all knew it would go this way, and football owes it to those that cannot cope with the aftermath to look after them.
BTW Doctors, dentists, trade unions etc all have funds for the same thing
The easy answer is the Players Association have a fund, supported by all professional players to help people in this situation. There is enough money around football to make this feasible. A smallish amount every month and properly managed it should do the job.
That's spot on. Jockeys have the Injured Jockeys Fund and if they had a Gazza then they'd help him and try to sort him out using the money that they've raised over the years. They have Oaksey House in Lambourn which is used to put up some elderly jockeys and they can also meet current jockeys there as the centre also has state of the art injury rehab facilities. Such a centre could help injured 'out of contract' professional footballers at all levels as well as cases such as Gazza.
Gordon Taylor is the biggest cu nt in football (genuinely) and somehow makes around £1m p.a. out of leading a union that represents a few thousand workers. The least this shameless cu nt and the divvy hordes who earn £xm pa. as Premier League footballers can do is chip in £40k to help the player who perhaps as much as anyone contributed to broadening football's appeal to the previously aloof and disgusted masses and making English football the media/money-saturated pile of wan kery it overwhelmingly is today.
He has very clearly had mental health issues throughout his career, not aided by alcoholism, but he's a very troubled bloke and deserves the support of his union and erstwhile colleagues. Good luck to the bloke.
Gordon Taylor is the biggest cu nt in football (genuinely) and somehow makes around £1m p.a. out of leading a union that represents a few thousand workers. The least this shameless cu nt and the divvy hordes who earn £xm pa. as Premier League footballers can do is chip in £40k to help the player who perhaps as much as anyone contributed to broadening football's appeal to the previously aloof and disgusted masses and making English football the media/money-saturated pile of wan kery it overwhelmingly is today.
He has very clearly had mental health issues throughout his career, not aided by alcoholism, but he's a very troubled bloke and deserves the support of his union and erstwhile colleagues. Good luck to the bloke.
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That's spot on too. Footballers should look after their own - they can bloody afford it. Taylor has always struck me as a complete knob.
The easy answer is the Players Association have a fund, supported by all professional players to help people in this situation. There is enough money around football to make this feasible. A smallish amount every month and properly managed it should do the job.
I believe such a thing does exist to provide help to John Johnson who plays 2 games for Accrington, gets his leg shattered and is on the scrapbeap at 19.
Gazza needs ongoing help far above what the PFA can provide unfortunately.
agree with Konk, taylor is one of the biggest cancers in our game an absolute leech ,they should be doing more to help out pros like gazza who have issues
i know some people slate the man but he was the best footballer i have ever seen live , an icon of my time growing up, every time i hear nessan dorma it does make me well up a little thinking of how close we came to winning italia 90, bobby robson, Gazza, Paul parker, lineker, that apart from the Euro 96 was the last england side you could be proud of i really hope Gazza does sort himself out and finds some peace but we all know deep down how this will play out
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
My opinion on Gazza is the same as it was for George best.George was given a second chance with a new liver and decided to carry on drinking.Although a football icon through out the world chose not to grasp the opportunity of life.My feelings towards Gazza will remain the same if he chooses to ignore this latest outpouring of love and help.
My opinion on Gazza is the same as it was for George best.George was given a second chance with a new liver and decided to carry on drinking.Although a football icon through out the world chose not to grasp the opportunity of life.My feelings towards Gazza will remain the same if he chooses to ignore this latest outpouring of love and help.
I'm not ars ed because Gascoigne was a top footballer (and I actually found his "wackiness" a complete turn-off), but - wooly liberal alert - I'd like anyone with mental health issues or an addiction to get the treatment they need.
As for Gascoigne being an abusive husband - I haven't lived his life, so I've got no idea what goes through his head, but plenty of people make big mistakes in life, but are allowed to get on with things and do right. It can't have helped being surrounded by sycophants, ponces and shed loads of money from the minute he started playing first team football.
I'm not ars ed because Gascoigne was a top footballer (and I actually found his "wackiness" a complete turn-off), but - wooly liberal alert - I'd like anyone with mental health issues or an addiction to get the treatment they need.
As for Gascoigne being an abusive husband - I haven't lived his life, so I've got no idea what goes through his head, but plenty of people make big mistakes in life, but are allowed to get on with things and do right. It can't have helped being surrounded by sycophants, ponces and shed loads of money from the minute he started playing first team football.
konk you are so on the money most of the time but there are plenty of people with money who don't smash up their wives or partners. Booze aside that probably would have happened anyway. I reckon there are plenty of men out there who hit their missus and don't touch a drop.
konk you are so on the money most of the time but there are plenty of people with money who don't smash up their wives or partners. Booze aside that probably would have happened anyway. I reckon there are plenty of men out there who hit their missus and don't touch a drop.
I don't think it's money that made him beat his wife up, but I don't think having pots of money, loads of social time and endless access to booze (coke?) and generally being indulged however much of a tit you're being, probably make for a particularly ace person. Especially not when you appear to be surrounded by people egging you on. Add in well-documented mental health issues from his childhood and you probably don't have the most happy, stable person in the world.
I abhor violence, but all the violent people I've known in life have been deeply unhappy, joyless fu ckers. So, a big part of me has always wished they'd take a richly deserved kicking themselves, but at the same time, I wish they'd find a bit of happiness and peace. Geuinely happy, contented people don't tend to go round lamping people.
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