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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? 19:29 - Aug 3 with 9229 viewsKeithHaynes

Plenty (thousands) of patriots there this weekend, spin off concerts right wing against the Rebellion punk festival which pulls in many thousands as well. Going to be a hot night. Winter Gardens has closed its doors to protect staff and guests.







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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:02 - Aug 7 with 1584 viewsonehunglow

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 07:54 - Aug 7 by mangohilljack

If those concerned citizens (now labeled far right,EDL blah blah blah) and those Muslim gangs ( labels not fit for this forum) understood exactly what was going on we could resolve this issue within a day.

People seriously need to ignore the media/government and do their own root cause analysis. The results will shock you but, it's the root cause you need to address NOT the symptoms (christian/muslim)

When you think about it the government have known about illegal immigration for many years, not once have they tried to address the issue (lots of talk yes but no substance) ....Now did they really want to address it? or was it all part of the plan? sounds extreme but just pause and think about it. We know it could be stopped very easily within days.

As a result of illegal immigration there have been claims of rape/murder and many other crimes (now I know all races and colours are capable of crime but the media focus on particular ones more than others) all which could be stopped within days (if it was football lads their doors would have been demolished before breakfast) but the government instead chooses to brush it all under the carpet and try to censor, demonise and target anybody who tries to bring attention to these issues.

We know something could be done to address these issues but they blatantly refuse and won't, which leads to the conclusion that they actually want it to happen.

Look at the bigger picture, think about the last few years and start joining up the dots instead of listening to the media who are owned by the same criminals who are trying to push their agendas.

It's time to stop the violence, unite as people and turn all attention to a corrupt and criminal government who have been screwing the arse off us for many years


Some post that,fair play .

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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:01 - Aug 7 with 1523 viewsWhiterockin

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 07:54 - Aug 7 by mangohilljack

If those concerned citizens (now labeled far right,EDL blah blah blah) and those Muslim gangs ( labels not fit for this forum) understood exactly what was going on we could resolve this issue within a day.

People seriously need to ignore the media/government and do their own root cause analysis. The results will shock you but, it's the root cause you need to address NOT the symptoms (christian/muslim)

When you think about it the government have known about illegal immigration for many years, not once have they tried to address the issue (lots of talk yes but no substance) ....Now did they really want to address it? or was it all part of the plan? sounds extreme but just pause and think about it. We know it could be stopped very easily within days.

As a result of illegal immigration there have been claims of rape/murder and many other crimes (now I know all races and colours are capable of crime but the media focus on particular ones more than others) all which could be stopped within days (if it was football lads their doors would have been demolished before breakfast) but the government instead chooses to brush it all under the carpet and try to censor, demonise and target anybody who tries to bring attention to these issues.

We know something could be done to address these issues but they blatantly refuse and won't, which leads to the conclusion that they actually want it to happen.

Look at the bigger picture, think about the last few years and start joining up the dots instead of listening to the media who are owned by the same criminals who are trying to push their agendas.

It's time to stop the violence, unite as people and turn all attention to a corrupt and criminal government who have been screwing the arse off us for many years


"It's time to stop the violence, unite as people and turn all attention to a corrupt and criminal government who have been screwing the arse off us for many years"

Are you still in Australia or living here now.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:44 - Aug 7 with 1458 viewsAnotherJohn

There is certainly a battle over the definition of events underway, even between sections of opinion that condemn the violence and the people involved. Those we may gloss as the "liberal establishment" are insisting that the riots and any underlying causes are completely separate issues, that any political content in chants or signs should be discounted, and that the idea of two-tier policing is a myth. What happened in Birmingham was apparently a temporary strategic withdrawal with no significance according to the Policing Minister this morning. The powers that be are edging towards defining the riots as terrorism. I don't know how widely these claims are accepted by the general population. My guess is that they may backfire if pushed too hard.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:00 - Aug 7 with 1427 viewsmangohilljack

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:01 - Aug 7 by Whiterockin

"It's time to stop the violence, unite as people and turn all attention to a corrupt and criminal government who have been screwing the arse off us for many years"

Are you still in Australia or living here now.


Does it matter where you live if you care about your country?
I might be in Australia but my family and friends are back there, my kids family and friends also.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:19 - Aug 7 with 1380 viewsmangohilljack

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:44 - Aug 7 by AnotherJohn

There is certainly a battle over the definition of events underway, even between sections of opinion that condemn the violence and the people involved. Those we may gloss as the "liberal establishment" are insisting that the riots and any underlying causes are completely separate issues, that any political content in chants or signs should be discounted, and that the idea of two-tier policing is a myth. What happened in Birmingham was apparently a temporary strategic withdrawal with no significance according to the Policing Minister this morning. The powers that be are edging towards defining the riots as terrorism. I don't know how widely these claims are accepted by the general population. My guess is that they may backfire if pushed too hard.
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The establishment/media will tell you what they want you to hear, we all know that. So let's discount anything they say or push.
Listen to the majority of the people that are there on the streets protesting (legally) and in particular those NOT caught up in the riots, listen to what they are saying, fed up of this government, fed up of the lies, fed up of the corruption and deceit , fed up up of the way some people are treated as opposed to others, I could go on but I'll spare you the time.
They've tried to divide us in any way possible,

BLM
Gay/Straight
Trans
British/European
Black/White
Christian/Muslim and add any other religion

Everything they push is divisive and we all know the saying, 'Together we stand.divided we fall"
If we don't unite as people and not just in the UK but all over the world then of course we are going to fall, which unless stopped is happening right around us .
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:19 - Aug 7 with 1377 viewsWhiterockin

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:00 - Aug 7 by mangohilljack

Does it matter where you live if you care about your country?
I might be in Australia but my family and friends are back there, my kids family and friends also.


I was just wondering if you were talking about the British or Australian government, because my friends in Australia feel the same about the government there. I wasn't sure which or both governments you were talking about.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:25 - Aug 7 with 1355 viewsmangohilljack

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:19 - Aug 7 by Whiterockin

I was just wondering if you were talking about the British or Australian government, because my friends in Australia feel the same about the government there. I wasn't sure which or both governments you were talking about.


Well as you asked I was referring to the UK government but the same can most certainly be said for any government in most western countries. UK and Australia are both run by WEF graduates in Starmer and Albanese and have exactly the same agendas, they are all working in lock step.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:32 - Aug 7 with 1339 viewsWhiterockin

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:25 - Aug 7 by mangohilljack

Well as you asked I was referring to the UK government but the same can most certainly be said for any government in most western countries. UK and Australia are both run by WEF graduates in Starmer and Albanese and have exactly the same agendas, they are all working in lock step.


Thank you.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:47 - Aug 7 with 1295 viewsKeithHaynes

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:19 - Aug 7 by mangohilljack

The establishment/media will tell you what they want you to hear, we all know that. So let's discount anything they say or push.
Listen to the majority of the people that are there on the streets protesting (legally) and in particular those NOT caught up in the riots, listen to what they are saying, fed up of this government, fed up of the lies, fed up of the corruption and deceit , fed up up of the way some people are treated as opposed to others, I could go on but I'll spare you the time.
They've tried to divide us in any way possible,

BLM
Gay/Straight
Trans
British/European
Black/White
Christian/Muslim and add any other religion

Everything they push is divisive and we all know the saying, 'Together we stand.divided we fall"
If we don't unite as people and not just in the UK but all over the world then of course we are going to fall, which unless stopped is happening right around us .


The ease of living today, welfare and subsidised living plus the fact half the world doesnā€™t seem to have a legitimate and working brain cell means at this moment in time, no unity will happen.

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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 14:58 - Aug 7 with 1209 viewscontroversial_jack

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 07:54 - Aug 7 by mangohilljack

If those concerned citizens (now labeled far right,EDL blah blah blah) and those Muslim gangs ( labels not fit for this forum) understood exactly what was going on we could resolve this issue within a day.

People seriously need to ignore the media/government and do their own root cause analysis. The results will shock you but, it's the root cause you need to address NOT the symptoms (christian/muslim)

When you think about it the government have known about illegal immigration for many years, not once have they tried to address the issue (lots of talk yes but no substance) ....Now did they really want to address it? or was it all part of the plan? sounds extreme but just pause and think about it. We know it could be stopped very easily within days.

As a result of illegal immigration there have been claims of rape/murder and many other crimes (now I know all races and colours are capable of crime but the media focus on particular ones more than others) all which could be stopped within days (if it was football lads their doors would have been demolished before breakfast) but the government instead chooses to brush it all under the carpet and try to censor, demonise and target anybody who tries to bring attention to these issues.

We know something could be done to address these issues but they blatantly refuse and won't, which leads to the conclusion that they actually want it to happen.

Look at the bigger picture, think about the last few years and start joining up the dots instead of listening to the media who are owned by the same criminals who are trying to push their agendas.

It's time to stop the violence, unite as people and turn all attention to a corrupt and criminal government who have been screwing the arse off us for many years


We have a new govt. The one screwing us for years has gone.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 15:03 - Aug 7 with 1208 viewsonehunglow

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 14:58 - Aug 7 by controversial_jack

We have a new govt. The one screwing us for years has gone.


The one we have will screw more .
Itā€™s already started
Pensioners and savers first .
Easy targets
I almost called them vile
Starmer is being found out and unravelling .
Full force if the law ,Second specialist police units to deal with disorder . Sentences to reflect our outrage .
15 yr old already on bail is bailed for violent disorder and ā€¦.bailed

Maggots setting fire to police cars ā€¦.20 months but wonā€™t serve half if that


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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 15:12 - Aug 7 with 1199 viewsAnotherJohn

One pertinent question, especially with the claimed likelihood of trouble in many places tonight, is whether the protestors travel from afar or are local people. I looked at the list of persons remanded in custody and named and shamed in relation to events in Southport. There are four. Three are from addresses in Southport, while one comes from Manchester. Is this because it takes longer to arrest people from further afield, or are a big chunk of the protestors actually local people?
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 16:23 - Aug 7 with 1138 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 15:12 - Aug 7 by AnotherJohn

One pertinent question, especially with the claimed likelihood of trouble in many places tonight, is whether the protestors travel from afar or are local people. I looked at the list of persons remanded in custody and named and shamed in relation to events in Southport. There are four. Three are from addresses in Southport, while one comes from Manchester. Is this because it takes longer to arrest people from further afield, or are a big chunk of the protestors actually local people?


I think there is plenty of media and political bullshit around at present, I'd prefer to stick to the facts that a small sample indicates that Southport people were involved.

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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 18:09 - Aug 7 with 1075 viewsWhiterockin

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 16:23 - Aug 7 by JACKMANANDBOY

I think there is plenty of media and political bullshit around at present, I'd prefer to stick to the facts that a small sample indicates that Southport people were involved.


Looks like some countries are calling the riots terrorism.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24500244.india-australia-nigeria-full-list-uk-
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:36 - Aug 7 with 975 viewsonehunglow

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 15:12 - Aug 7 by AnotherJohn

One pertinent question, especially with the claimed likelihood of trouble in many places tonight, is whether the protestors travel from afar or are local people. I looked at the list of persons remanded in custody and named and shamed in relation to events in Southport. There are four. Three are from addresses in Southport, while one comes from Manchester. Is this because it takes longer to arrest people from further afield, or are a big chunk of the protestors actually local people?


Itā€™s denied that locals are primarily to blame
Court appearances tend to show the truth

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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:55 - Aug 7 with 947 viewsSullutaCreturned

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 14:58 - Aug 7 by controversial_jack

We have a new govt. The one screwing us for years has gone.


They all screw us. This country isn't in a mess just because of the tories, previous Labour governments have done plenty of damage too. This current lot are nt really winning me over.

Lets face it they are going on about the riiters but seem oblivious about the reasons for these riots. There are a hell of a lot of people turning out and in a lot of locations. This isn't just the racists that were there when the EDL were running, this is also other people who have had enough.

Imagine living" oop North" and seeing your towns change a lot, whole areas become practical ghettoes as I witnessed in a part of Bradford about 20 years ago. There was (probably still is) a large area of Bradford where it's not safe for white people to go after dark. I was told any whte people walking through there would be challenged by gangs of Asians and told they weren't welcome there, don't take the warning and get a beating. I was also told that even the police only went there mb handed after dark. You could drive through but don't stop and get out.
Then remember the grooming gangs that we weren't allowed to call Asian or Muslim because that's racist but what do you call them because if it was white Christians that's exactly what they'd be called. Police apparently didn't investigate these gangs because they were more worried about being called racist than they were about the teenage gilrs being abused.
Then you get other crimes that have been mounting up and the trigger for these riots, the killing of three children and what did the politicians expect, that British people would put up with these things for ever and never raise a hand in protest?
Starmer is just another pokitician who hasn't a clue about public opinion. He listens to other politicians and his advisors and as we saw with the tories, these advisors are blooming useless, they push their own agenda and what is really happening out in the boonies is getting ignored.

I don;t think this is near a civil war, it's not big enough, there not enough people but it has grown. Maybe it's reached its peak now and it'll start to tail off, we'll see. Whatever happens the politicians cannot ignore this or next time (and there will be a next time unless the politicians listen) an immigrant or second generation immigrant kills kids, it'll be worse because more and more people are looking at this and wondering, is this really what we have to do to stop our country being sold down the river.

If that seems a bit strong to anyone then try getting the police out when you have a problem, try geting an ambulance in an emergency, see how long you have to ait to see a GP or for an operation, have a look how short your kids school is of teachers and how many lessons are taken by unqualified stand ins, try geting a carer for an elderly relative, then look again at your shopping bills and realise how much extra we are all paying. Realise how much going green is costing us when there doesn't seem to be much improvement, specially when this country is a fart in the thunderstorm of gloabl CO2 emissions and what we can save has already been wiped out three times over by China's rise in emissions this last 5 years.

The only people not worse off are the rich and powerful all of whom have been getting richer while the rest of us got poorer.

When is enough, enough? For a large group of people that point has come and gone.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:46 - Aug 7 with 896 viewsLuther27

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:47 - Aug 7 by KeithHaynes

The ease of living today, welfare and subsidised living plus the fact half the world doesnā€™t seem to have a legitimate and working brain cell means at this moment in time, no unity will happen.


Integration to some involved with these groups is a word they donā€™t understand. When people come to the UK, integration into our society where all benefit appear alien to quite a few.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 21:45 - Aug 7 with 822 viewsFlashberryjack

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:55 - Aug 7 by SullutaCreturned

They all screw us. This country isn't in a mess just because of the tories, previous Labour governments have done plenty of damage too. This current lot are nt really winning me over.

Lets face it they are going on about the riiters but seem oblivious about the reasons for these riots. There are a hell of a lot of people turning out and in a lot of locations. This isn't just the racists that were there when the EDL were running, this is also other people who have had enough.

Imagine living" oop North" and seeing your towns change a lot, whole areas become practical ghettoes as I witnessed in a part of Bradford about 20 years ago. There was (probably still is) a large area of Bradford where it's not safe for white people to go after dark. I was told any whte people walking through there would be challenged by gangs of Asians and told they weren't welcome there, don't take the warning and get a beating. I was also told that even the police only went there mb handed after dark. You could drive through but don't stop and get out.
Then remember the grooming gangs that we weren't allowed to call Asian or Muslim because that's racist but what do you call them because if it was white Christians that's exactly what they'd be called. Police apparently didn't investigate these gangs because they were more worried about being called racist than they were about the teenage gilrs being abused.
Then you get other crimes that have been mounting up and the trigger for these riots, the killing of three children and what did the politicians expect, that British people would put up with these things for ever and never raise a hand in protest?
Starmer is just another pokitician who hasn't a clue about public opinion. He listens to other politicians and his advisors and as we saw with the tories, these advisors are blooming useless, they push their own agenda and what is really happening out in the boonies is getting ignored.

I don;t think this is near a civil war, it's not big enough, there not enough people but it has grown. Maybe it's reached its peak now and it'll start to tail off, we'll see. Whatever happens the politicians cannot ignore this or next time (and there will be a next time unless the politicians listen) an immigrant or second generation immigrant kills kids, it'll be worse because more and more people are looking at this and wondering, is this really what we have to do to stop our country being sold down the river.

If that seems a bit strong to anyone then try getting the police out when you have a problem, try geting an ambulance in an emergency, see how long you have to ait to see a GP or for an operation, have a look how short your kids school is of teachers and how many lessons are taken by unqualified stand ins, try geting a carer for an elderly relative, then look again at your shopping bills and realise how much extra we are all paying. Realise how much going green is costing us when there doesn't seem to be much improvement, specially when this country is a fart in the thunderstorm of gloabl CO2 emissions and what we can save has already been wiped out three times over by China's rise in emissions this last 5 years.

The only people not worse off are the rich and powerful all of whom have been getting richer while the rest of us got poorer.

When is enough, enough? For a large group of people that point has come and gone.


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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:55 - Aug 8 with 676 viewsBoundy

Can anyone explain, in a civil manner of course , what the difference between an activist and a far right thug , any one attacking another without any other reason other than of their colour should be described in the same term.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/muslim-activists-apologise-after-pub-goers

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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:04 - Aug 8 with 662 viewsAnotherJohn

Generally quiet night it seems. Some evidence of antisemitic chants and the odd Palestinian flag in view, but no real trouble. Is this just a lull or the end of the violent protests? I don't think the underlying problems will go away.
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:33 - Aug 8 with 628 viewsBoundy

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:04 - Aug 8 by AnotherJohn

Generally quiet night it seems. Some evidence of antisemitic chants and the odd Palestinian flag in view, but no real trouble. Is this just a lull or the end of the violent protests? I don't think the underlying problems will go away.


The only way the underlying problem will go away is when we have a proper immigration service with a means to quickly remove illegal migrants , stop the flow of boats, the creation of a fairer society where those who pay in are not considered the bank of those who just turn up unannounced , the building of homes and support for those who've contributed to society and not left abandoned on the streets ie veterans , The ongoing obsession with trying placate the purple haired woke brigade .

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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:11 - Aug 8 with 572 viewscontroversial_jack

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:04 - Aug 8 by AnotherJohn

Generally quiet night it seems. Some evidence of antisemitic chants and the odd Palestinian flag in view, but no real trouble. Is this just a lull or the end of the violent protests? I don't think the underlying problems will go away.


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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:18 - Aug 8 with 554 viewsLuther27

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:04 - Aug 8 by AnotherJohn

Generally quiet night it seems. Some evidence of antisemitic chants and the odd Palestinian flag in view, but no real trouble. Is this just a lull or the end of the violent protests? I don't think the underlying problems will go away.


I see Covid must be rife in Birmingham as a lot of protestors there were wearing masks šŸ™„
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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:20 - Aug 8 with 552 viewsraynor94

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:04 - Aug 8 by AnotherJohn

Generally quiet night it seems. Some evidence of antisemitic chants and the odd Palestinian flag in view, but no real trouble. Is this just a lull or the end of the violent protests? I don't think the underlying problems will go away.


I think the instant jail sentences being handed out to these thugs is making them sit up and take notice

There's going to be a lot of door knocking in the next couple of days

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šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 11:05 - Aug 8 with 511 viewsonehunglow

šŸ”„Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 10:20 - Aug 8 by raynor94

I think the instant jail sentences being handed out to these thugs is making them sit up and take notice

There's going to be a lot of door knocking in the next couple of days


Disagree Ray.
Most if theses Iā€™ll be work shy maggots for whom police are just an irritant .
They fear nothing
Kid of 15 on bail,charged ,then bailed again .
Max for violent disorder is 5 years .
One got 3 ,said to be an example of the full force of the law .
He will be out after two years .
Others ,one of whom given 20 months will serve 6 months
Starmer is BShitting ,conning the public. Labour will not hammer criminals . Itā€™s not in their DNA .

Not heard much from Mrs Balls

Worst aspect is the utter cowardice and lack of leadership by Silver and Gold Command ..for me itā€™s neglect of duty as they are legally responsible for their staff . Ie,donā€™t send police officers in baseball caps to face brick and iron poles .Dont muzzle police dogs , itā€™s not a tactic .
Donā€™t form defensive lines when attacking is the best tactic .
Donā€™t send officers into the fray just to be targets
Donā€™t worry about ā€œ excessiveā€ force. Itā€™s either the maggots or us

That simple

Starmer should instigate a public enquiry into this ,which our press has ignored

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