| Most reliable information.Covid-19 23:34 - May 20 with 20223 views | RonaldStump |
So who is providing the most reliable information?
The so called 'Conspiracy Theorists' or the Government (Sage) and their modelling.
Since March 2020 there clearly only one winner here.
Congratulations the so called 'Consiracy Theorists'
Prove me wrong. |  |
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:51 - Jul 1 with 811 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:22 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Going to apologise now that I have schooled scotia on how to do research on Malone? |
Do you seriously think finding an extra contributory reference, to make 3 out of 194 is "Schooling" me.
Let's be honest. You had no idea Malone did not invent mRNA vaccines, as he and you explicitly and directly claimed, until I told you.
You've had 24 hours and still can't come up with any supporting evidence that he did.
In the 24 hours you've linked a wiki article on the development of mRNA vaccine development and he's not mentioned once in the main body of the entry. Not once.
He's referenced in a paper a diagram used in the article is derived from. 3 times out ot 194.
That's it. You'd think the inventor of the most important vaccine in recent history would be a little more high profile?
Dame Sarah Gilbert got a standing ovation on centre court for heavens sake.
And that is schooling me?
Let's face it. You are just continuing to make a complete fool of yourself. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 18:57]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:56 - Jul 1 with 793 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:51 - Jul 1 by Scotia |
Do you seriously think finding an extra contributory reference, to make 3 out of 194 is "Schooling" me.
Let's be honest. You had no idea Malone did not invent mRNA vaccines, as he and you explicitly and directly claimed, until I told you.
You've had 24 hours and still can't come up with any supporting evidence that he did.
In the 24 hours you've linked a wiki article on the development of mRNA vaccine development and he's not mentioned once in the main body of the entry. Not once.
He's referenced in a paper a diagram used in the article is derived from. 3 times out ot 194.
That's it. You'd think the inventor of the most important vaccine in recent history would be a little more high profile?
Dame Sarah Gilbert got a standing ovation on centre court for heavens sake.
And that is schooling me?
Let's face it. You are just continuing to make a complete fool of yourself. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 18:57]
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Stop digging, 1989 was his first reference in the DNA/RNA history whereas your two supposed inventers came along 6 years later.
He was the one to propose switching RNA from treatments to Vaccine along with the rest of the team, just like he says in his video and you can't prove he didn't.
Yes schooled because you didn't think anything existed showing his work and I prove you wrong.
Just suck it up sunshine. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 18:58]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:02 - Jul 1 with 791 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:56 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Stop digging, 1989 was his first reference in the DNA/RNA history whereas your two supposed inventers came along 6 years later.
He was the one to propose switching RNA from treatments to Vaccine along with the rest of the team, just like he says in his video and you can't prove he didn't.
Yes schooled because you didn't think anything existed showing his work and I prove you wrong.
Just suck it up sunshine. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 18:58]
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I know there is nothing proving he invented it. There isn't because he didn't. You said he did.
Make no mistake about it. You said he invented mRNA vaccines, not worked on them or was part of the team that invented them. You said he invented them because conspiracy sites say he invented them.
This is a quote from your post in an attempt to belittle prof:-
"The latest one is Dr Robert Malone, if you don't know the name he is the actual inventor of the mRNA science and the principle of the mRNA Vaccines in the late 1980s"
This is what he says on his own website.
"Dr. Malone is the discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and the inventor of mRNA vaccines"
He absolutely did not.
You've had 24 hrs to find something to prove he invented it and you've found a reference or three that demonstrate he did some work in the late eighties. No patents filed and no money made.
I understand he's bitter, he's probably missed out on millions by not following through on original work.
That just makes him incredibly bitter and unreliable. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 20:08]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:06 - Jul 1 with 787 views | Professor |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:19 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Prof, whose name is on the first paper Wolff or Malone and who is the lead on the paper? |
Malone is in the middle- in biology and medicine that is not a lead on the study. First or last two names. What they did was far from a vaccine . | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:16 - Jul 1 with 769 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:06 - Jul 1 by Professor |
Malone is in the middle- in biology and medicine that is not a lead on the study. First or last two names. What they did was far from a vaccine . |
Malone, R. W.; Felgner, P. L.; Verma, I. M. (1 August 1989). "Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 86 (16): 6077—6081.
Malone first in 1989 with the pre-cursor to current vaccines.
If you had watched his video you would have known all this, because he explained it quite clearly.
But hey you just carry on with the character assassination, it doesn't take anything away from the fact that he knows what he is talking about where mRNA is concerned, along with all the others that have concerns. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:41 - Jul 1 with 772 views | Gwyn737 |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:16 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Malone, R. W.; Felgner, P. L.; Verma, I. M. (1 August 1989). "Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 86 (16): 6077—6081.
Malone first in 1989 with the pre-cursor to current vaccines.
If you had watched his video you would have known all this, because he explained it quite clearly.
But hey you just carry on with the character assassination, it doesn't take anything away from the fact that he knows what he is talking about where mRNA is concerned, along with all the others that have concerns. |
“If you had watched his video”. Sums it up really.
Tell me, how do you square the circle between saying don’t attack the source on one hand, then completely sidelining the mainstream media with the other? | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:47 - Jul 1 with 766 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:16 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Malone, R. W.; Felgner, P. L.; Verma, I. M. (1 August 1989). "Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 86 (16): 6077—6081.
Malone first in 1989 with the pre-cursor to current vaccines.
If you had watched his video you would have known all this, because he explained it quite clearly.
But hey you just carry on with the character assassination, it doesn't take anything away from the fact that he knows what he is talking about where mRNA is concerned, along with all the others that have concerns. |
"Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection".
And what does this mean in your own words? | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:53 - Jul 1 with 752 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:47 - Jul 1 by Scotia |
"Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection".
And what does this mean in your own words? |
It is the method of getting the RNA in the person using lipisome carrier which is exactly what the modern mRNA vacccines use.
In fact that it itself is considered to be a problem, spreading throughout the body and ending up in all the major organs.
But what my understanding of it is totally immaterial. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 20:55]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:55 - Jul 1 with 761 views | Professor |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:16 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Malone, R. W.; Felgner, P. L.; Verma, I. M. (1 August 1989). "Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 86 (16): 6077—6081.
Malone first in 1989 with the pre-cursor to current vaccines.
If you had watched his video you would have known all this, because he explained it quite clearly.
But hey you just carry on with the character assassination, it doesn't take anything away from the fact that he knows what he is talking about where mRNA is concerned, along with all the others that have concerns. |
Check the patent files too. It’s his only first author. Perhaps his research doctorate. The last author is still the lead. All the rest are middle.And that is not the basis of the vaccine claim. So be a good boy and go away. Like Malone’s career.
He is a bitter liar. If you can’t see that you are are bigger fool than I thought | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:00 - Jul 1 with 746 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:55 - Jul 1 by Professor |
Check the patent files too. It’s his only first author. Perhaps his research doctorate. The last author is still the lead. All the rest are middle.And that is not the basis of the vaccine claim. So be a good boy and go away. Like Malone’s career.
He is a bitter liar. If you can’t see that you are are bigger fool than I thought |
Yes carry on, it is all you have.
Both you and scotia everything comes down to slagging off the person, regardless of who they are, what they know or what they have achieved.
And personal abuse.
It is OK I get it. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 21:01]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:04 - Jul 1 with 744 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:55 - Jul 1 by Professor |
Check the patent files too. It’s his only first author. Perhaps his research doctorate. The last author is still the lead. All the rest are middle.And that is not the basis of the vaccine claim. So be a good boy and go away. Like Malone’s career.
He is a bitter liar. If you can’t see that you are are bigger fool than I thought |
"And that is not the basis of the vaccine claim"
"An mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2: Lyophilized, liposome-based vaccine candidate EG-COVID induces high levels of virus neutralizing antibodies"
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.22.436375v1
Quote.
"We developed the mRNA vaccine platform that can be lyophilized using Liposome-based technology" [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 21:09]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:23 - Jul 1 with 743 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:04 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
"And that is not the basis of the vaccine claim"
"An mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2: Lyophilized, liposome-based vaccine candidate EG-COVID induces high levels of virus neutralizing antibodies"
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.22.436375v1
Quote.
"We developed the mRNA vaccine platform that can be lyophilized using Liposome-based technology" [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 21:09]
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That sounds like a different new candidate vaccine to me.
It doesn't seem to be either of the mRNA Vaccines in use at present. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:48 - Jul 1 with 710 views | A_Fans_Dad |
They are not the originators of mRNA Vaccines are they, they are AZ vaccines.
He was talking about Pfizer, but in particular Moderna.
Keep going, you are in denial that he was an originator of RNA technology without any actual proof.
Have either of you bothered to watch his video? | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:05 - Jul 1 with 715 views | Professor |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:48 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
They are not the originators of mRNA Vaccines are they, they are AZ vaccines.
He was talking about Pfizer, but in particular Moderna.
Keep going, you are in denial that he was an originator of RNA technology without any actual proof.
Have either of you bothered to watch his video? |
No you massive idiot. The point is Andy Pollard and Sarah Gilbert are massively more
Successful scientists than Malone. Notice how neither uses their Knighthood/Damehood. Neither boasts of a successfully used vaccine. Malone is a self promoting failure. He has been trumpeting to the right wing/anti-vaccine/QAnon crowd. He had a very promising career, but failed to adapt when their work reached a dead end. His post 2000 record is mediocre at best. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:09 - Jul 1 with 712 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:48 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
They are not the originators of mRNA Vaccines are they, they are AZ vaccines.
He was talking about Pfizer, but in particular Moderna.
Keep going, you are in denial that he was an originator of RNA technology without any actual proof.
Have either of you bothered to watch his video? |
Dear me. You really are clueless. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:12 - Jul 1 with 709 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:05 - Jul 1 by Professor |
No you massive idiot. The point is Andy Pollard and Sarah Gilbert are massively more
Successful scientists than Malone. Notice how neither uses their Knighthood/Damehood. Neither boasts of a successfully used vaccine. Malone is a self promoting failure. He has been trumpeting to the right wing/anti-vaccine/QAnon crowd. He had a very promising career, but failed to adapt when their work reached a dead end. His post 2000 record is mediocre at best. |
Sarah Gilbert just says vaccines, and Andrew Pollard just his email address.
Malone posts his entire, significantly embellished, CV.
Malone obviously has a massive axe he is desperately trying to sharpen. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:57 - Jul 1 with 684 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:05 - Jul 1 by Professor |
No you massive idiot. The point is Andy Pollard and Sarah Gilbert are massively more
Successful scientists than Malone. Notice how neither uses their Knighthood/Damehood. Neither boasts of a successfully used vaccine. Malone is a self promoting failure. He has been trumpeting to the right wing/anti-vaccine/QAnon crowd. He had a very promising career, but failed to adapt when their work reached a dead end. His post 2000 record is mediocre at best. |
Oh, I see, it is now who is most successful that is important.
Not what they did.
Yes those 2 are very successful.
OK I get it now.
Now prove he didn't do what he says he did, not that it makes the slightest difference, he either knows DNA & RNA and illnesses or he doesn't, so prove he doesn't and that his and many other's opinions are wrong. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 23:06 - Jul 1 with 685 views | Professor |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:57 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Oh, I see, it is now who is most successful that is important.
Not what they did.
Yes those 2 are very successful.
OK I get it now.
Now prove he didn't do what he says he did, not that it makes the slightest difference, he either knows DNA & RNA and illnesses or he doesn't, so prove he doesn't and that his and many other's opinions are wrong. |
You still don’t get it.
If Malone had truly invented mRNA vaccines, why did it take 32 years to be used? Why is his work not in the scientific press? Why is aggressively promoting himself? The Pollard and Gilbert comparison illustrates his braggadocio. He was involved early on. But is really not a major player here. Christ it only took 15 years to get Penicillin developed and nine years were wasted as Fleming did not realise its significance | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 07:43 - Jul 2 with 660 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:57 - Jul 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
Oh, I see, it is now who is most successful that is important.
Not what they did.
Yes those 2 are very successful.
OK I get it now.
Now prove he didn't do what he says he did, not that it makes the slightest difference, he either knows DNA & RNA and illnesses or he doesn't, so prove he doesn't and that his and many other's opinions are wrong. |
That's a different argument though.
I'm sure he does know about mRNA and DNA vaccines, but his involvement pales in to insignificance, he is seeking attention he is getting it from people who believe him without question.
He claims he invented mRNA vaccines, not as part of a team. That he did it himself, on his own. He didn't. You prove he did.
https://www.rwmalonemd.com/mrna-vaccine-inventor
A quote from that page.
"Dr. Malone is the inventor of mRNA vaccines (and DNA vaccines). He also discovered lipid mediated and naked RNA transfection technologies."
That was written by either Dr Malone or his wife.
So far your "proof" amounts to being a part author of 3 papers from 30 years ago and his own claims.
He is largely anonymous in the entire history of mRNA development, and still is after 36 hrs of AFD's expert use of google. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 11:49 - Jul 2 with 626 views | Scotia |
Basically saying that the vaccines are even more effective than was estimated.
Excellent post AFD. Contradicting most of your other posts in one go. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 13:05 - Jul 2 with 614 views | Professor |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 11:49 - Jul 2 by Scotia |
Basically saying that the vaccines are even more effective than was estimated.
Excellent post AFD. Contradicting most of your other posts in one go. |
And actually fits in better with the virology and immunology view that the recent SAGE models failed to properly consider vaccine immunity. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 13:21 - Jul 2 with 613 views | onehunglow |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 11:49 - Jul 2 by Scotia |
Basically saying that the vaccines are even more effective than was estimated.
Excellent post AFD. Contradicting most of your other posts in one go. |
If they are proven to be effective then would they have them | |
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:47 - Jul 2 with 587 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 13:21 - Jul 2 by onehunglow |
If they are proven to be effective then would they have them |
OK, here is a question for all you nay sayers.
I would like an honest answer please.
If you found yourself, or a loved one in the position of those unfortunate enough to have had both Vaccines and have caught the Indian variant and end up in hospital with your Oxygen sats dropping below 80% and the doctor says you have a choice.
A. go on a ventilator.
B. take Ivermectin.
Which would you choose? | | | |
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