| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:18 - Dec 21 with 5618 views | kiwidale |
Sold off? taken over? Are you saying labour would have blocked this merger. |  |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:23 - Dec 21 with 5612 views | Dale23years |
My guest 11 pages | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:28 - Dec 21 with 5604 views | kiwidale |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:23 - Dec 21 by Dale23years |
My guest 11 pages |
There will be valid points from both sides until Brexit is mentioned the rest will be swapping insults.
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:17 - Dec 21 with 5491 views | rochdaleriddler |
Given we allow China control of our nuclear facilities and access to our data networks it’s hardly surprising from the patriotic party |  |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts (n/t) on 10:43 - Dec 21 with 5453 views | D_Alien |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:17 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler |
Given we allow China control of our nuclear facilities and access to our data networks it’s hardly surprising from the patriotic party |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:46 - Dec 21 with 5446 views | D_Alien |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:19 - Dec 21 with 5398 views | Ancoats_Blue |
I read this a few years ago. Interesting read with evidence to argue that a lot of privatisation in the UK hasn’t had the desired effect of better competition, lower prices for consumers, efficiency, less tax payer subsidies etc.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20601075
But then I think a lot of us knew that... |  | | |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:26 - Dec 21 with 5379 views | D_Alien |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:19 - Dec 21 by Ancoats_Blue |
I read this a few years ago. Interesting read with evidence to argue that a lot of privatisation in the UK hasn’t had the desired effect of better competition, lower prices for consumers, efficiency, less tax payer subsidies etc.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20601075
But then I think a lot of us knew that... |
That may well be interesting, but Cobhams isn't publicly-owned | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:50 - Dec 21 with 5329 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:26 - Dec 21 by D_Alien |
That may well be interesting, but Cobhams isn't publicly-owned |
No but it’s a British defence contractor, and Lady Cobham thought their were national interest concerns with this merger | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:56 - Dec 21 with 5314 views | SuddenLad |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:50 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler |
No but it’s a British defence contractor, and Lady Cobham thought their were national interest concerns with this merger |
Which seemingly have been addressed and are now satisfactory to all parties. All jobs have been secured and guaranteed and the HQ will remain in the UK. |  |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:16 - Dec 21 with 5282 views | DiddyDave |
Yeah right. A few years down the track...... | | | |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:40 - Dec 21 with 5228 views | D_Alien |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:50 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler |
No but it’s a British defence contractor, and Lady Cobham thought their were national interest concerns with this merger |
It's wonderful to see a socialist quoting a titled capitalist (or their titled daughter-in-law) over national security concerns
Keep it up, rr!
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 13:44 - Dec 21 with 5159 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 10:17 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler |
Given we allow China control of our nuclear facilities and access to our data networks it’s hardly surprising from the patriotic party |
Well they are not patriotic. They allow foreign governments to run our trains, and allow ex military people to be homeless with mental health problems. Just two examples of their so called patriotic actions. There are many more examples, including ownership of the press. |  |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:00 - Dec 21 with 5131 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:40 - Dec 21 by D_Alien |
It's wonderful to see a socialist quoting a titled capitalist (or their titled daughter-in-law) over national security concerns
Keep it up, rr!
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I’ll try | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:01 - Dec 21 with 5126 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 11:56 - Dec 21 by SuddenLad |
Which seemingly have been addressed and are now satisfactory to all parties. All jobs have been secured and guaranteed and the HQ will remain in the UK. |
By addressed do you mean held back until after the election?, because this was approved months ago | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:19 - Dec 21 with 5086 views | SuddenLad |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:01 - Dec 21 by rochdaleriddler |
By addressed do you mean held back until after the election?, because this was approved months ago |
Shareholders agreed on the takeover in September, but the deal was stalled,, pending security concerns and other matters, including the composition of board members, guarantees regarding jobs in the UK, location of HQ and guarantees on future sales of the company (or parts of it).
As I read it, all these matters have been sorted to the satisfaction of all parties and the deal has been ratified.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-update-on-the-proposed-acquisition [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 15:02]
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:02 - Dec 21 with 5008 views | Rochdale_ger |
It’s more concerning that Bardsley construction has gone under while having multi million pound contracts due to start in Liverpool and Manchester City centre. Is this due to Brexit I wonder, you know what they say about the construction industry being the first to be hit and the last to recover. Signs of a recession? |  | | |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:11 - Dec 21 with 4985 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 14:19 - Dec 21 by SuddenLad |
Shareholders agreed on the takeover in September, but the deal was stalled,, pending security concerns and other matters, including the composition of board members, guarantees regarding jobs in the UK, location of HQ and guarantees on future sales of the company (or parts of it).
As I read it, all these matters have been sorted to the satisfaction of all parties and the deal has been ratified.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-update-on-the-proposed-acquisition [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 15:02]
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Bit like the guarantee given by Kraft when they bought Cadbury! Meaningless. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 15:12]
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:20 - Dec 21 with 4954 views | tony_roch975 |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:18 - Dec 21 by kiwidale |
Sold off? taken over? Are you saying labour would have blocked this merger. |
Yes, if it was still Corbyn's Labour Party | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:26 - Dec 21 with 4940 views | tony_roch975 |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 12:40 - Dec 21 by D_Alien |
It's wonderful to see a socialist quoting a titled capitalist (or their titled daughter-in-law) over national security concerns
Keep it up, rr!
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Isn't it - hilarious how some of us can see both sides and aren't afraid to form alliances with an opponent when we share an analysis;
is there a problem with socialists being patriotic?
At a ceremony in Churchill’s honour, held shortly before they both retired from the front rank, Attlee delivered a glowing tribute to the man he called Britain’s “daring pilot in extremity”. When a Conservative MP referred to the Labour leader as “silly old Attlee” in Churchill’s presence, he erupted with a thunderous response: “Mr Attlee… played a great part in winning the war. Mr Attlee is a great patriot.” | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:31 - Dec 21 with 4919 views | D_Alien |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:26 - Dec 21 by tony_roch975 |
Isn't it - hilarious how some of us can see both sides and aren't afraid to form alliances with an opponent when we share an analysis;
is there a problem with socialists being patriotic?
At a ceremony in Churchill’s honour, held shortly before they both retired from the front rank, Attlee delivered a glowing tribute to the man he called Britain’s “daring pilot in extremity”. When a Conservative MP referred to the Labour leader as “silly old Attlee” in Churchill’s presence, he erupted with a thunderous response: “Mr Attlee… played a great part in winning the war. Mr Attlee is a great patriot.” |
Give it a rest, and have a good Christmas
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:36 - Dec 21 with 4912 views | tony_roch975 |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 08:28 - Dec 21 by kiwidale |
There will be valid points from both sides until Brexit is mentioned the rest will be swapping insults.
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Hopefully valid points and definitely no insults - shame you assumed there would be. Brexit isn't the issue here; the Tories sold off the family silver when we were in the EU, they are selling it off now as we're leaving the EU, they will sell off any remaining after we've left the EU - in fact they will sell it off anytime there's a US private equity group tickling their tummy. | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:42 - Dec 21 with 4893 views | tony_roch975 |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:31 - Dec 21 by D_Alien |
Give it a rest, and have a good Christmas
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Thanks - and to you and yours | |
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| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 16:35 - Dec 21 with 4837 views | roccydaleian |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 15:36 - Dec 21 by tony_roch975 |
Hopefully valid points and definitely no insults - shame you assumed there would be. Brexit isn't the issue here; the Tories sold off the family silver when we were in the EU, they are selling it off now as we're leaving the EU, they will sell off any remaining after we've left the EU - in fact they will sell it off anytime there's a US private equity group tickling their tummy. |
Is selling the family silver anything like selling the family gold? Wonder who did that last time they were in power? |  | | |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 16:44 - Dec 21 with 4810 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Politics alert TVOS, D_Alien - the family silver sell-off starts on 16:35 - Dec 21 by roccydaleian |
Is selling the family silver anything like selling the family gold? Wonder who did that last time they were in power? |
Was it the Whigs | |
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