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Read a few bits and pieces this morning which says that West Ham are hoping to sell Hugill this January, surely with our year loan agreement that can't happen? Or at least the club buying him can't have him until the end of the season?
He can be recalled in Jan, at which point they can sell him to the highest bidder. His wages must be high, Wet Spam will know it is far higher than QPR can ever afford. Therefore they know we shall never buy him.
Thus whiles hes on form, Wet Spam will see if someone else will take a punt on him and his high wages. So, they put it about he's available as they clearly do not fancy him and would prefer to get a fee and his full wages off the books.
Also, this probably means we are not paying all or even a large part of his wages, hence their desire to get rid. Unless he starts scoring every game from here to Jan, I suspect that no one will pay it and we shall have him for the rest of the year.
I am more worried some other club comes in for Wells. As not only is he on form goal scoring-wise, but he also seems to have a great pass on him. This for me puts him ahead of Hugnill and he is probably cheaper on wages and fee.
Wells is the real risk.
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Once January comes round, Wells is free to negotiate with clubs regarding the following season.
He's under no obligation to to move anywhere in the meantime.
We will have Smyth back at some point and if we can't afford/ don't want Hugill I would trust MW to alter our style to suit two small pacy players up front if necessary.
This is laughable. A whole raft of our players are on considerably more than £2.5K a week.
He was deadly serious and so in the know and I didnt have the heart to tell him what utter tosh he was spouting plus i was trying to enjoy my sausages.
He's on a 4.5 year deal at West Ham with 3 years left to run after this loan. If he gets 20 goals for us this season West Ham may recover their money by selling him on. I doubt if they sell him in Jan they would recover that, even if he's scored 10+ goals.
Your post seems at odds with Sean Gallagher's tweet.
Is it that you think he's saying that there is no recall until January, or that you think he's saying no recall all season but that he's mistaken?
I am saying he is mistaken as usually, a Club can recall loans in Jan. Clubs usually always have this option in case a bid comes in as it is pretty standard.
I am sure there is an exceptional example of against this. But I have not seen it. Happy to take past historical empirical data for an example (not conjecture of the current xfer market which we know always changes anyway), but I have not even seen one exception yet and that would be against the norm anyway.
Once January comes round, Wells is free to negotiate with clubs regarding the following season.
He's under no obligation to to move anywhere in the meantime.
Agreed, players can see out their contracts and refuse to move.
But the increased risk I was eluding too, was that a bigger club comes in for him as hes playing very well and scoring as well. And of the two he IMHO is better and possibly cheaper on both aspects of wage and fee. Hence for me, the risk of him moving in Jan is higher than Hugnill.
Sure there is always a risk, but the risk has increased the better they play! My point is don't be surprised if we lose them, as if they keep this up I would be more surprised if they stayed the full season.
However, it could be no one comes in for any of them and they both stay :)
I am saying he is mistaken as usually, a Club can recall loans in Jan. Clubs usually always have this option in case a bid comes in as it is pretty standard.
I am sure there is an exceptional example of against this. But I have not seen it. Happy to take past historical empirical data for an example (not conjecture of the current xfer market which we know always changes anyway), but I have not even seen one exception yet and that would be against the norm anyway.
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Ok, I wasn't sure.
Thanks.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Agreed, players can see out their contracts and refuse to move.
But the increased risk I was eluding too, was that a bigger club comes in for him as hes playing very well and scoring as well. And of the two he IMHO is better and possibly cheaper on both aspects of wage and fee. Hence for me, the risk of him moving in Jan is higher than Hugnill.
Sure there is always a risk, but the risk has increased the better they play! My point is don't be surprised if we lose them, as if they keep this up I would be more surprised if they stayed the full season.
However, it could be no one comes in for any of them and they both stay :)
I think one thing we all need to get used to is that in our current situation we won't have much of a say as a Club over what players we keep or lose, that will be dictated by finances and other clubs I'm afraid so we need to get used to that happening sometimes.
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