| Mawson to West Ham 15:11 - Jun 14 with 71419 views | andrew |
Deal close. Sky sports breaking. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 08:12 - Jun 27 with 2393 views | Loyal |
| Mawson to West Ham on 21:22 - Jun 26 by jasper_T |
Every club that spends more than a year in the PL and then gets relegated faces a big deficit afterwards. That's why parachute payments were introduced. If we'd only spent a Championship budget on wages people here would have been screaming about cheapskate owners needing to spend more (hang on they do this anyway).
Yes he should be sacked because the players he gave contracts to are awful, but needing to sell a few players to get the books in order is perfectly normal unless you've got a moneybags backer willing to risk horrifying debt and FFP sanctions (Newcastle signed 12 players, increased their wage bill by £40m and made a £90m loss in a year). |
I've seen nothing to indicate we need to sell any players to balance the books though ? Only a queue of players wanting to leave. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 09:23 - Jun 27 with 2319 views | jasper_T |
| Mawson to West Ham on 08:12 - Jun 27 by Loyal |
I've seen nothing to indicate we need to sell any players to balance the books though ? Only a queue of players wanting to leave. |
A typical wage bill in the Championship is something like £25-30m per annum and we're currently on the hook for 3x that.
And most of those clubs are still making a loss. Living within our means even with the bumper first year of parachute payments requires sales to get that figure down and the starting bank balance up to cover the inevitable shortfall. | | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:30 - Jun 28 with 2060 views | omarjack |
Deal is looking dead.
Swansea are asking too much (close to 25 m) and West Ham are looking for a cheaper alternative in WBA's Craig Dawson who's likely to cost somewhere between 15-18 m or so.
So..if he has no suitors he might actually stay with us at least until January. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:50 - Jun 28 with 2018 views | Swansea93 |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:30 - Jun 28 by omarjack |
Deal is looking dead.
Swansea are asking too much (close to 25 m) and West Ham are looking for a cheaper alternative in WBA's Craig Dawson who's likely to cost somewhere between 15-18 m or so.
So..if he has no suitors he might actually stay with us at least until January. |
I'm sure I read that Wolves are interested in him as well, Leicester could come in for him if they sell Maguire. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:52 - Jun 28 with 2011 views | LeonWasGod |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:30 - Jun 28 by omarjack |
Deal is looking dead.
Swansea are asking too much (close to 25 m) and West Ham are looking for a cheaper alternative in WBA's Craig Dawson who's likely to cost somewhere between 15-18 m or so.
So..if he has no suitors he might actually stay with us at least until January. |
I predict it'll drag on to the last week and then we'll panic buy someone who turns out to be crap  |  | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:57 - Jun 28 with 2005 views | omarjack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:52 - Jun 28 by LeonWasGod |
I predict it'll drag on to the last week and then we'll panic buy someone who turns out to be crap |
Chico is a free agent.
That is all. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 10:58 - Jun 28 with 1995 views | magicdaps10 |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:57 - Jun 28 by omarjack |
Chico is a free agent.
That is all. |
Chico has signed for Ruben Kazan. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 11:02 - Jun 28 with 1984 views | omarjack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 10:58 - Jun 28 by magicdaps10 |
Chico has signed for Ruben Kazan. |
Oh well..it's alright. David Cotterill can probably be converted into a CB.
Oh and haven't you heard? Jack Rodwell is a free agent now. [Post edited 28 Jun 2018 11:27]
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| Mawson to West Ham on 11:29 - Jun 28 with 1931 views | costalotta |
| Mawson to West Ham on 09:23 - Jun 27 by jasper_T |
A typical wage bill in the Championship is something like £25-30m per annum and we're currently on the hook for 3x that.
And most of those clubs are still making a loss. Living within our means even with the bumper first year of parachute payments requires sales to get that figure down and the starting bank balance up to cover the inevitable shortfall. |
You say that but Huw ran the club so well, he will have ensured player contracts had relegation wage reduction clauses, so the question remains. [Post edited 28 Jun 2018 11:30]
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| Mawson to West Ham on 11:53 - Jun 28 with 1858 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 07:35 - Jun 27 by swan65split |
Victims of a total waste of money IMO just like what we wasted on A AYEW!
The sum wasted would probably be our total Debt! |
Yeah every signing should work out perfectly. How dare we conform to the realities of the transfer market. We should be the best club in the world.
Totally agree. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 12:06 - Jun 28 with 1831 views | jasper_T |
| Mawson to West Ham on 11:53 - Jun 28 by E20Jack |
Yeah every signing should work out perfectly. How dare we conform to the realities of the transfer market. We should be the best club in the world.
Totally agree. |
Resigning players who were average for us and poor elsewhere for big money is not "the reality of the transfer market".
Huw couldn't see further than a certain agent's stomach and it's cost the football club dearly. | | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:30 - Jun 28 with 1766 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 12:06 - Jun 28 by jasper_T |
Resigning players who were average for us and poor elsewhere for big money is not "the reality of the transfer market".
Huw couldn't see further than a certain agent's stomach and it's cost the football club dearly. |
Wilfred Bony was the greatest striker in our Premier League history and the top goal scorer in the Premier League for the 12 months before his sale.
Andre Ayew was top scorer with 12 goals from a wide position before his sale to West Ham.
Neither were either poor or average - quite the opposite.
The reality of the transfer market is that in January we were cut adrift and looked rudderless, players did not want to come here. We rolled the only dice we had and it nearly worked a miracle.
Instead we end the most successful time in our history long after most thought it would. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 13:50 - Jun 28 with 1735 views | Groo |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:30 - Jun 28 by E20Jack |
Wilfred Bony was the greatest striker in our Premier League history and the top goal scorer in the Premier League for the 12 months before his sale.
Andre Ayew was top scorer with 12 goals from a wide position before his sale to West Ham.
Neither were either poor or average - quite the opposite.
The reality of the transfer market is that in January we were cut adrift and looked rudderless, players did not want to come here. We rolled the only dice we had and it nearly worked a miracle.
Instead we end the most successful time in our history long after most thought it would. |
and.... Bony had spent most of his time injured after he left and when he did play failed to reach anywhere close to his form with us, couldn't get into Stoke's team when on loan. I wasn't the only one with grave concerns when we resigned him at vast cost and high wage. Wasn't hard to predict he'd be injured most of the time for us.
Ayew was a top scorer with us and couldn't do it for West Ham, when he was with us, even though he scored goals most complained about the fact that he looked out of place and disjointed the team.
Two extremely bad signings that contributed to our relegation and given us a major financial headache as it looks like we'd have to continue contributing to both's wages if they left. [Post edited 28 Jun 2018 13:50]
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:00 - Jun 28 with 1708 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 13:50 - Jun 28 by Groo |
and.... Bony had spent most of his time injured after he left and when he did play failed to reach anywhere close to his form with us, couldn't get into Stoke's team when on loan. I wasn't the only one with grave concerns when we resigned him at vast cost and high wage. Wasn't hard to predict he'd be injured most of the time for us.
Ayew was a top scorer with us and couldn't do it for West Ham, when he was with us, even though he scored goals most complained about the fact that he looked out of place and disjointed the team.
Two extremely bad signings that contributed to our relegation and given us a major financial headache as it looks like we'd have to continue contributing to both's wages if they left. [Post edited 28 Jun 2018 13:50]
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I was responding to the post stating that they had been poor or average the last time they were with us, that’s not true.
Yes form and injuries hampered them since they left but as touched upon, we were bottom of the league and rudderless. Unfortunately Championship Manager it ain’t, we cannot just click a mouse and bring a player in to rescue us of our choice, we were heavy odds on to go down. Not sure who people genuinely expected us to bring in.
As stated, we had to roll the dice - this time it didn’t work, but for a while it looked like it had, and put our fate back into our own hands - which is amazing in itself. That’s football.
It was bound to happen sooner or later, the fact it came after some top half finishes, a European run and a major cup run is testament to how well we did. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:01 - Jun 28 with 1708 views | Shaky |
Best. Transfers. Ever. |  |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:12 - Jun 28 with 1687 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:01 - Jun 28 by Shaky |
Best. Transfers. Ever. |
Which ones?
The ones that worked and brought us the best players ever to play for our club and guide us to our most successful ever era? Or do you mean just the bad ones that you are concentrating on, that every single club in world football has?
Take your time. (Again) | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:19 - Jun 28 with 1678 views | Shaky |
Certainly the most successful period for building up debt, going from virtually nothing in 2012 to £70 million by the end of last summer.
Very impressive to go out an borrow and spend like that. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:38 - Jun 28 with 1644 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:19 - Jun 28 by Shaky |
Certainly the most successful period for building up debt, going from virtually nothing in 2012 to £70 million by the end of last summer.
Very impressive to go out an borrow and spend like that. |
That’s the price of the greatest era of success in our history.
Not that you were around for any of it before hand mind. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:48 - Jun 28 with 1628 views | awayjack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:19 - Jun 28 by Shaky |
Certainly the most successful period for building up debt, going from virtually nothing in 2012 to £70 million by the end of last summer.
Very impressive to go out an borrow and spend like that. |
Rack up so much debt despite the sale of our most value valuable players for small fortunes over the last few seasons. Staggering incompetence but those responsible have made their personal fortunes so care little. |  | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:52 - Jun 28 with 1618 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:48 - Jun 28 by awayjack |
Rack up so much debt despite the sale of our most value valuable players for small fortunes over the last few seasons. Staggering incompetence but those responsible have made their personal fortunes so care little. |
The sales of our players and the reinvestment of that money is the reason we stayed there so long.
No use crying about it when it inevitably fails to work eventually. The fact we did what we did was remarkable. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:54 - Jun 28 with 1614 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:52 - Jun 28 by E20Jack |
The sales of our players and the reinvestment of that money is the reason we stayed there so long.
No use crying about it when it inevitably fails to work eventually. The fact we did what we did was remarkable. |
I thought it was the management genius of Jenkins, Dim?
Borrow and spend doesn't exactly equate to the invention of the wheel, as management innovations go. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 14:58 - Jun 28 with 1607 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:54 - Jun 28 by Shaky |
I thought it was the management genius of Jenkins, Dim?
Borrow and spend doesn't exactly equate to the invention of the wheel, as management innovations go. |
Who do you think was making the decisions to buy and sell then?
Keep up Shaky. Babying you through everything is like wading through mud. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 15:34 - Jun 28 with 1566 views | swan65split |
| Mawson to West Ham on 11:53 - Jun 28 by E20Jack |
Yeah every signing should work out perfectly. How dare we conform to the realities of the transfer market. We should be the best club in the world.
Totally agree. |
Thank You for proving me right.  |  | | |
| Mawson to West Ham on 15:36 - Jun 28 with 1561 views | E20Jack |
| Mawson to West Ham on 15:34 - Jun 28 by swan65split |
Thank You for proving me right. |
Thank you for proving me right too.
Perfect outcome. | |
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| Mawson to West Ham on 15:44 - Jun 28 with 1538 views | Shaky |
| Mawson to West Ham on 14:58 - Jun 28 by E20Jack |
Who do you think was making the decisions to buy and sell then?
Keep up Shaky. Babying you through everything is like wading through mud. |
You now seem to be saying it was a reflection of Jenkins' management genius that he got the club into debt to the tune of £70million.
That's the trouble with your own personal style of logic; it quickly leads to nonsense, that you are then psychologically predisposed to defend at all costs with more nonsense.
LOL! | |
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