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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:32 9 Jan 2025
Absolutely.
I spent two days at the DfE as part of the evidence gathering for the school.safeguarding bit, I won’t over state my role but to it was both tiny and apolitical.
There are bigger risks for abuse than ethnicity, that’s not to say these issues don’t intertwine on occasion |
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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 18:01 9 Jan 2025
I doubt it was needed.
There is lots of really important stuff in that bill.
It’s a shame Musk didn’t just post ‘the uk should find the most efficient and effective way of dealing with the grooming gangs issue, ensuring those who did wrong are held accountable ‘
Not many clicks / much cash in that, though.
This would have been a much shorter thread. |
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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 17:23 9 Jan 2025
He’s a list of MPs voting against the Children’s Wellbeing bill, which contained massively important safeguards for some of our most vulnerable children in order to suck up to an American billionaire -
Jim Allister (Traditional Unionist Voice - North Antrim)
Lee Anderson (Reform UK - Ashfield)
Stuart Anderson (Conservative - South Shropshire) (Proxy vote cast by Gagan Mohindra)
Edward Argar (Conservative - Melton and Syston)
Victoria Atkins (Conservative - Louth and Horncastle)
Gareth Bacon (Conservative - Orpington)
Kemi Badenoch (Conservative - North West Essex)
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative - West Worcestershire)
Steve Barclay (Conservative - North East Cambridgeshire)
Peter Bedford (Conservative - Mid Leicestershire)
Saqib Bhatti (Conservative - Meriden and Solihull East)
Bob Blackman (Conservative - Harrow East)
Sarah Bool (Conservative - South Northamptonshire)
Aphra Brandreth (Conservative - Chester South and Eddisbury)
Alex Burghart (Conservative - Brentwood and Ongar)
James Cartlidge (Conservative - South Suffolk)
Christopher Chope (Conservative - Christchurch)
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Conservative - North Cotswolds)
Lewis Cocking (Conservative - Broxbourne)
John Cooper (Conservative - Dumfries and Galloway)
Alberto Costa (Conservative - South Leicestershire)
Claire Coutinho (Conservative - East Surrey) (Proxy vote cast by Joy Morrissey)
Harriet Cross (Conservative - Gordon and Buchan)
Gareth Davies (Conservative - Grantham and Bourne)
Mims Davies (Conservative - East Grinstead and Uckfield)
David Davis (Conservative - Goole and Pocklington)
Caroline Dinenage (Conservative - Gosport)
Oliver Dowden (Conservative - Hertsmere)
Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative - Chingford and Woodford Green)
Alex Easton (Independent - North Down)
Luke Evans (Conservative - Hinckley and Bosworth)
Nigel Farage (Reform UK - Clacton)
Peter Fortune (Conservative - Bromley and Biggin Hill)
Ashley Fox (Conservative - Bridgwater)
Mark Francois (Conservative - Rayleigh and Wickford)
George Freeman (Conservative - Mid Norfolk)
Louie French (Conservative - Old Bexley and Sidcup)
Roger Gale (Conservative - Herne Bay and Sandwich)
John Glen (Conservative - Salisbury)
Helen Grant (Conservative - Maidstone and Malling)
Andrew Griffith (Conservative - Arundel and South Downs)
Rebecca Harris (Conservative - Castle Point)
John Hayes (Conservative - South Holland and The Deepings)
Damian Hinds (Conservative - East Hampshire)
Richard Holden (Conservative - Basildon and Billericay)
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative - Thirsk and Malton)
Paul Holmes (Conservative - Hamble Valley)
Nigel Huddleston (Conservative - Droitwich and Evesham)
Neil Hudson (Conservative - Epping Forest)
Jeremy Hunt (Conservative - Godalming and Ash)
Bernard Jenkin (Conservative - Harwich and North Essex)
Robert Jenrick (Conservative - Newark)
Caroline Johnson (Conservative - Sleaford and North Hykeham)
Lincoln Jopp (Conservative - Spelthorne)
Alicia Kearns (Conservative - Rutland and Stamford) (Proxy vote cast by Joy Morrissey)
Danny Kruger (Conservative - East Wiltshire)
Katie Lam (Conservative - Weald of Kent)
John Lamont (Conservative - Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk)
Edward Leigh (Conservative - Gainsborough)
Julian Lewis (Conservative - New Forest East)
Julia Lopez (Conservative - Hornchurch and Upminster)
Rupert Lowe (Reform UK - Great Yarmouth)
Alan Mak (Conservative - Havant)
Kit Malthouse (Conservative - North West Hampshire)
Jerome Mayhew (Conservative - Broadland and Fakenham)
James McMurdock (Reform UK - South Basildon and East Thurrock)
Esther McVey (Conservative - Tatton)
Andrew Mitchell (Conservative - Sutton Coldfield)
Gagan Mohindra (Conservative - South West Hertfordshire)
Robbie Moore (Conservative - Keighley and Ilkley)
Joy Morrissey (Conservative - Beaconsfield)
Wendy Morton (Conservative - Aldridge-Brownhills)
Kieran Mullan (Conservative - Bexhill and Battle)
David Mundell (Conservative - Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale)
Andrew Murrison (Conservative - South West Wiltshire)
Jesse Norman (Conservative - Hereford and South Herefordshire)
Neil O'Brien (Conservative - Harborough, Oadby and Wigston)
Ben Obese-Jecty (Conservative - Huntingdon)
Priti Patel (Conservative - Witham)
Rebecca Paul (Conservative - Reigate)
Chris Philp (Conservative - Croydon South)
Mark Pritchard (Conservative - The Wrekin)
Jack Rankin (Conservative - Windsor)
David Reed (Conservative - Exmouth and Exeter East)
Andrew Rosindell (Conservative - Romford)
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party - Strangford)
Neil Shastri-Hurst (Conservative - Solihull West and Shirley)
Alec Shelbrooke (Conservative - Wetherby and Easingwold)
David Simmonds (Conservative - Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner)
Greg Smith (Conservative - Mid Buckinghamshire)
Rebecca Smith (Conservative - South West Devon)
Julian Smith (Conservative - Skipton and Ripon)
Ben Spencer (Conservative - Runnymede and Weybridge)
Patrick Spencer (Conservative - Central Suffolk and North Ipswich)
Gregory Stafford (Conservative - Farnham and Bordon)
Blake Stephenson (Conservative - Mid Bedfordshire)
Mel Stride (Conservative - Central Devon)
Graham Stuart (Conservative - Beverley and Holderness)
Robin Swann (Ulster Unionist Party - South Antrim)
Bradley Thomas (Conservative - Bromsgrove)
Richard Tice (Reform UK - Boston and Skegness)
Nick Timothy (Conservative - West Suffolk)
Laura Trott (Conservative - Sevenoaks)
Tom Tugendhat (Conservative - Tonbridge)
Martin Vickers (Conservative - Brigg and Immingham)
Matt Vickers (Conservative - Stockton West)
Helen Whately (Conservative - Faversham and Mid Kent)
John Whittingdale (Conservative - Maldon)
Gavin Williamson (Conservative - Stone, Great Wyrley and Penkridge)
Sammy Wilson (Democratic Unionist Party - East Antrim)
Mike Wood (Conservative - Kingswinford and South Staffordshire) [Post edited 9 Jan 17:32]
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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 19:23 8 Jan 2025
Yep.
What we all seem to want is accountability, the recommendations from the 2022 inquiry actioned and a focussed investigation into the failings of this particular issue. And fast.
The question is whether a national inquiry will achieve this. |
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Reply | Trump
at 19:20 8 Jan 2025
Could just form a block with Europe 😉 |
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Reply | Chagos Islands
at 19:19 8 Jan 2025
99 years use of the airbase there.
I’ve no idea if that’s good value or not. |
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Reply | Trump
at 19:07 8 Jan 2025
Sadly it seems like many won’t care.
Stand by for ‘he might express it in an uncomfortable way but he’s making good points’,
See also Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson etc.
Doesn’t matter if it’s lies or at least mistruths, if it’s highlighting an issue some won’t care. |
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Reply | Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned
at 21:45 7 Jan 2025
Hard to say.
He picked up the already broken news because of the national inquiry story. He didn’t get it out of the blue.
I do think the amount of misinformation he is peddling is distracting from any positive moves that could be made.
His motivation isn’t saving children; it’s clicks and wealth generation. |
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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:52 7 Jan 2025
I can’t see the figures in that.
Here’s what I saw (with the big caveat that I haven’t looked at the original source)
Again, I find what’s happened with the gangs to be possibly the worst thing I’ve ever read about.
Doesn’t mean we should ignore other ethnicities. [Post edited 7 Jan 21:01]
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Reply | Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned
at 20:37 7 Jan 2025
There certainly is a case.
Is the most effective way to achieving the goal for example, calling for Jess Phillips to be sent to prison?
Probably the politician currently in post who has done the most for abused women. |
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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:33 7 Jan 2025
For me it’s just a case of making sure the light shines on other similarly abhorrent issues.
It’s quite right at this time it’s these gangs are front and centre.
Doesn’t mean that overall anyone else should get a free pass. |
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Reply | Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned
at 20:15 7 Jan 2025
Yep.
We’re handing over the power to unelected billionaires and thanking them for doing it.
I can’t see how any fair minded British person can have read what Musk has championed over the last few days and not be disturbed. |
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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 20:11 7 Jan 2025
I saw that stat but I can’t find it atm. It also pointed out (I think) that white British who make up 80% of the population are responsible for 80% of sexual offences.
As you say this doesn’t take into account when prosecutions should have taken place. |
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Reply | Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry
at 17:15 7 Jan 2025
This is what I was alluding too earlier in the thread.
Lots clamouring for a national inquiry without really knowing if that’s the best way to get answers.
It’s true that some of the outcomes from the 2022 inquiry were not actioned.
I find it depressing that the political parties are so busy blaming each other. Surely that would be an excellent chance for cross party working. |
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