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Thread | Burnley and yesterday
at 22:39 9 Feb 2025
I have supported Saints since being a school boy and attended to games to various degrees for almost 50 years.
This weekend I travelled the 240 miles down south and just got back this evening after seeing family as well.
I can safely say that yesterday's game is probably my final one for this season. There is no way that I am investing any more money into the club with what remains of this season. May be it is just me, but yesterday almost highlighted the abject state of our club, the team, the players as individuals.
Walking to the game I cannot recall an FA Cup game on a Saturday afternoon where there was no atmosphere, no sense of interest or appeal in the city or to the supporters and as it so proved with a crowd of around 15k.
The game itself was fairly mundane though both sides did engineer some chances with little real cutting edge. What was the defining moment though was the Burnley goal - not that they scored a scrappy one to win it - that almost seems to be a given when we play Burnley - but the lack of response and the attitude of our players - you would think with minutes to go and 1-0 down in a cup game they would show some effort, desire and passion - but no, not a scrap of it. With 3 minutes on the clock they were pointlessly passing it around the back with no sense of urgency to move it or thrust the ball forward. The moment Burnley scored they visibly gave up - all of them!
In all my time of supporting and watching Saints I have never seen such an abject group of players to wear our shirt and carry our badge.
I am not convinced by Juric any more than I was of the previous recent incumbents. Nothing has changed that much, if at all, but I am starting to wonder whether these players, this club is becoming unmanageable. There is a whole malaise running through every sinew of the club. I was always proud to be a Saints fan but right now I am embarrassed. These players, these owners, the guardians of our club have turned it into a sham. |
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Thread | The difference between us against Man U and Bournemouth against Newcastle today
at 23:17 18 Jan 2025
I know to praise Bournemouth is now almost sacrilege but there were clear differences in attitude and approach.
- Bournemouth did not sit and rely on one goal and put their chances away
- they did not sub the players that were on top
- they did not stop running until the final whistle
What a manager they have as well. Has to be the best signing they have ever made. |
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Thread | MOTD
at 23:18 4 Jan 2025
I dared to watch MOTD. Danny Murphy (who I am not a fan of and always has a downer on us even when we are ok) and Micah Richards assessment was so right. The players attitudes stank today. As both pundits said, they did not even do the basics which you should expect no matter who the manager or style or tactics.
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Thread | Feeling of desperation for our club.
at 17:32 4 Jan 2025
I have seen all sorts of highs and lows in my lifetime as a Saints fan but I am struggling to think of a time where I have felt as low and depressed about our team, our club and SFC as I do now. I don't think I even felt like this during the Branfoot era or the administration and points deduction period.
I really see no hope whatsover. The players have given up, if indeed they ever started, the morale and motivation is beyond rock bottom. We are clearly heading towards beating the Derby record - another sorry record to be apportioned to our club for our rivals etc to take years on the p*ss out of us.
I see no indication and have zero confidence in those supposedly managing and running the club and as long as they are in charge I cannot see anything changing/improving - but like looking for a shining white knight on the brow of a hill all is see is a grey sky. Marcus Liebherr did so much for us, sadly his daughter was not careful about who she handed the reigns to - first Gao and then this sorry lot.
I have never been in favour of it before because I always felt you had to get behind the team but I am not even sure the players give a jot for Saints or SFC. They show no fight, no resilience, no interest and therefore I think it needs a total boycott of a home game. I know that will be nigh on impossible to achieve but somehow we need to show enough is enough.
Quite where we go from here, I have not got a clue.
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Thread | Is there anything positive about SFC at the moment?
at 11:49 2 Jan 2025
As I was driving into work this morning, on the radio there was something about footballing sculptures and what is the best and worst...........surprise, surprise there was a resounding view that the initial sculpture of Ted Bates was considered the worst (though it has since been replaced).
The other day Danny Murphy (can't stand the guy and he hates us) was saying that Saints are the worse side since Derby to grace the PL.
We cannot get a win for love nor money.
We are languishing and firmly routed at the bottom.
We have the 2 x 9-0 record defeats
and it goes on and on. No one could ever accuse us Saints fans of picking an easy team to support and watch. I know we have had some good times in the past and I have been lucky enough to witness some of them, but I cannot recall a time where the brand and name of SFC seems as low as it is now........I am not even sure it was as low as this during the administration years?????? |
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Thread | Will today be the day?
at 08:07 20 Dec 2024
Will today be the day or will it just be imminent and if it is imminent how imminent is it imminent? |
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Thread | Yesterday's game
at 09:19 8 Dec 2024
When I got up yesterday morning I was heavily weighing up whether to go to the game. I had the ticket but I didn't have the motivation and looking at the deteriorating weather I was looking for an excuse not to drive down the M18, M1, etc or hoping that perhaps the game would be called off. Anyway, despite all those doubts and knowing that I was going to watch another defeat, like many others I did go and the end if the day wondered why I did not stick to my gut instinct telling me not to.
I got there in good time, decided to venture into Aston Tavern to escape the cold and wet and paid the £5 entry fee which did include a bowl of food and though a Villa fans location there was a smattering of Saints fans and it was arguably the most pleasant part of the day.
As for the game. Well, whichever side you were supporting, there was a common feeling - it was a poor game, with a poor atmosphere played in poor conditions. Even the overhanging roof did not protect you from the elements as my feet became blocks of ice and the only thing that kept you going was the gallows humour between our own fans.
The game can be summed easily. They scored because of another error, we offered no goal threat whatsoever, despite alot of huffing and puffing. I think at best we had one real meaningful shot on goal and I think our corners was less than a handful. I cannot think of a more inept bunch of strikers we have had at this level in all my time watching Saints and that includes even through the Branfoot era. Armstrong was repeatedly in off side positions so on the rare occasion we did try to get it forward he had to come back. On a simple chance that he had in the second half he inevitably fluffed his lines. Archer I do think potentially offers more but wiith tall centre halves on either side of him the ball to him has to precision and Brereton- Diaz - why oh why did we waste our money on that purchase - put bluntly, we knew we would need a good striker for this level and we have at best a bunch of championship strikers - even Vardy at Leicester offers more than our 3 put together and of course in the background is Ross Stewart which has to go down as one of the worst signing decisions given he was injured when we purchased him - though I suppose they would not have expected him to have had these medical issues.
In some respects our build up play was not bad. As usual KWP, Dibling and Fernandes worked hard and Aribo worked hard when he came on but we simply had nothing in the final third. Our crosses got nowhere when we got to the opponents box. In defence we were ok (except for the one costly error) and Wood looks like persevering with. Lumley had his moments and having nearly had a repeat of his Chelsea moment he then proceeded to kick the ball long which RM blames the fans for doing as he claims it led to their goal! Blaming the fans is never a good thing - especially given the money they spend, the trip they have made, the conditions they have got there in and have to return home in and the lack of entertainment value his team have served up. We are not the ones on the pitch earning thousands of pounds per week.
Villa themselves were not in truth much better than us and that was also reflected by the lack of vocal support from their own fans, After the game I could hear Villa fans saying that Saints support was better - which is something given the difference in numbers. You left thinking that this was another game where the opposition were there for the taking. You would not have had to have been that much better than we were to beat them - if only we offered some sort of real goal threat. Most other PL teams would probably have beaten Villa yesterday, even arguably any of the others at the bottom (except us)!
For the life of me, I really cannot see where an improvement or a win (even a draw) is going to come from. I have tickets for one more game in this month and beyond that I am really questioning whether I want to invest any more of my hard earned cash in being so underwhelmed by my team and club - I probably will because I always have but is that insanity?????
We are now 8 points at least adrift and 9 if you count our poor goal difference. To all intents and purposes it feels like our season is over and it really depends whether SR feel it is worth making the change in the hope that someone can produce a miracle now or accept (as I believe they have) that going down in the hope of coming back up is a reason and their model for sticking with what we have - with the risk of losing the few good players we have (and given SR record of wasting the money that we would get from them).
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Thread | El Sackio game on Monday
at 08:50 6 Dec 2024
West Ham Vs Wolves on Monday. It is being suggested that whoever loses that game will get the sack - probably an element of truth in it. I would not be surprised to see Potter going to West Ham and another opportunity will be missed by our owners.
Not sure what happens if Monday night is a draw! |
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