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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL 01:05 - Jan 25 with 2474 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Nice article that talks about Llorente's impact at Anfield, not only the two goals, but also his defending against Henderson.

http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3045616/fernando-lloren

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 06:27 - Jan 25 with 2371 viewsNOTRAC

Llorente is now consistently showing his class, and obviously has become a very important player for us. Spanish players seem to suit us ,and have been the mainstay in our style and in our success. This is the complete opposite ,in the main, of French players,Gomis being a prime example.Llorente has scored a number of 'toe poke ' goals for us,the one on Saturday being a typical example.These goals may seem easy, but involve tremendous speed of thought.Very few players are capable of scoring this type of goal and Llorente is up there amongst the very best.We are very lucky to have had him for only £5m .

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 06:39 - Jan 25 with 2360 viewsWhiterockin

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 06:27 - Jan 25 by NOTRAC

Llorente is now consistently showing his class, and obviously has become a very important player for us. Spanish players seem to suit us ,and have been the mainstay in our style and in our success. This is the complete opposite ,in the main, of French players,Gomis being a prime example.Llorente has scored a number of 'toe poke ' goals for us,the one on Saturday being a typical example.These goals may seem easy, but involve tremendous speed of thought.Very few players are capable of scoring this type of goal and Llorente is up there amongst the very best.We are very lucky to have had him for only £5m .


As opposed to Spanish Borja who cost £15M and has done the square root of feck all.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 07:03 - Jan 25 with 2331 viewsNOTRAC

I don't think Borja 's been given a proper chance. Agree though that at 15m (if true), not one of Jenkins best buys.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 08:03 - Jan 25 with 2268 views34dfgdf54

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 07:03 - Jan 25 by NOTRAC

I don't think Borja 's been given a proper chance. Agree though that at 15m (if true), not one of Jenkins best buys.


From what I have seen of Borja, he is a better version of Paloschi. His work is done inside the penalty box, he is probably more of a natural goalscorer than Paloschi aswell.

The problem is, we rely on our strikers to be the vocal point, Borja can't do that, he's not rapid quick, doesn't like his back to goal so hold up play isn't up to scratch, and he's not exactly a battering ram in the air either. He's a decent striker who will do well in his career, but just doesn't fit our system. Not his fault we paid £15 million for him, without any sort of thoughts of how we were going to fit him into the side, and how a striker of his style would benefit us. Another howler by Jenkins, the man some would like to still be in his role after one win.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 08:33 - Jan 25 with 2199 viewsDr_Winston

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 08:03 - Jan 25 by 34dfgdf54

From what I have seen of Borja, he is a better version of Paloschi. His work is done inside the penalty box, he is probably more of a natural goalscorer than Paloschi aswell.

The problem is, we rely on our strikers to be the vocal point, Borja can't do that, he's not rapid quick, doesn't like his back to goal so hold up play isn't up to scratch, and he's not exactly a battering ram in the air either. He's a decent striker who will do well in his career, but just doesn't fit our system. Not his fault we paid £15 million for him, without any sort of thoughts of how we were going to fit him into the side, and how a striker of his style would benefit us. Another howler by Jenkins, the man some would like to still be in his role after one win.


We didn't used to rely on our strikers to be the focal point. Michu was never a targetman, and we played our best football during his peak season. We had a mobile, interchangeable front three (or four if you include the AM) who fed off each other so, so well.

We changed that to accommodate Bony, then failed to change it back when Bony left. It's no real surprise to see Llorente, as the closest in physical style to Wilf do better at filling that role than any of the other poor bastards we've tasked with the job.

One of the trickier decisions Clement has to make as the season goes on and in planning for the next one is whether to stick or twist. Keep basing our game around having a targetman (thus rendering Baston pointless) or try to restore what went before. Suspect he'll stick with it, as Gylfi seems happier having someone to play off.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 09:46 - Jan 25 with 2100 viewsLoyal

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 08:33 - Jan 25 by Dr_Winston

We didn't used to rely on our strikers to be the focal point. Michu was never a targetman, and we played our best football during his peak season. We had a mobile, interchangeable front three (or four if you include the AM) who fed off each other so, so well.

We changed that to accommodate Bony, then failed to change it back when Bony left. It's no real surprise to see Llorente, as the closest in physical style to Wilf do better at filling that role than any of the other poor bastards we've tasked with the job.

One of the trickier decisions Clement has to make as the season goes on and in planning for the next one is whether to stick or twist. Keep basing our game around having a targetman (thus rendering Baston pointless) or try to restore what went before. Suspect he'll stick with it, as Gylfi seems happier having someone to play off.


Closed down in packs as well, the Fulham game ( finest performance from a swans side ever for me ) when we dominated them throughout is an example. We had workman like and aggressively skilful players covering the field very quickly. A creative influence in there as well. So much difference to the swans of today sadly.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 09:56 - Jan 25 with 2076 viewsPegojack

Interesting article, the only thing I would take issue with is 'Benteke is playing well for Palace". Really? I thought he's been playing like a disinterested minge lately, as highlighted on MOTD.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 10:12 - Jan 25 with 2039 viewsKerouac

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 09:56 - Jan 25 by Pegojack

Interesting article, the only thing I would take issue with is 'Benteke is playing well for Palace". Really? I thought he's been playing like a disinterested minge lately, as highlighted on MOTD.


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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 14:14 - Jan 25 with 1912 viewsTummer_from_Texas

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 08:33 - Jan 25 by Dr_Winston

We didn't used to rely on our strikers to be the focal point. Michu was never a targetman, and we played our best football during his peak season. We had a mobile, interchangeable front three (or four if you include the AM) who fed off each other so, so well.

We changed that to accommodate Bony, then failed to change it back when Bony left. It's no real surprise to see Llorente, as the closest in physical style to Wilf do better at filling that role than any of the other poor bastards we've tasked with the job.

One of the trickier decisions Clement has to make as the season goes on and in planning for the next one is whether to stick or twist. Keep basing our game around having a targetman (thus rendering Baston pointless) or try to restore what went before. Suspect he'll stick with it, as Gylfi seems happier having someone to play off.


I thought Michu was used as a nine from time to time. See commentary after his 9th goal vs West Brom at 1:30.


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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 14:21 - Jan 25 with 1899 viewsDafyddHuw

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 06:27 - Jan 25 by NOTRAC

Llorente is now consistently showing his class, and obviously has become a very important player for us. Spanish players seem to suit us ,and have been the mainstay in our style and in our success. This is the complete opposite ,in the main, of French players,Gomis being a prime example.Llorente has scored a number of 'toe poke ' goals for us,the one on Saturday being a typical example.These goals may seem easy, but involve tremendous speed of thought.Very few players are capable of scoring this type of goal and Llorente is up there amongst the very best.We are very lucky to have had him for only £5m .


What other French players didn't suit our style?
Not Tabanou, cos he couldn't even get in the team.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the on 14:28 - Jan 25 with 1881 viewspierre91

....Llorente's biggest plus is he's a "proper" footballer - someone who throughout his career has always played, trained and behaved like a decent person - the complete opposite of fakes like Gomis who pouted and shrank when he heard the first (deserved) boo for his ineptitude.

We have another in Tom Carroll and the best player in our team over the past two years has been Gylfi Sigurdsson - it surely can't be a coincidence that they're all cut from the same cloth ( no fuss apart from their excellent football ability).

It shows the importance of due dilligence before getting recruits into the Club.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the on 17:51 - Jan 25 with 1792 viewsGlyn1

Thanks Tummer - that's a much better analysis of Clement's tactics than we got on Match of the Day.

I think we should cut Jenkins some slack with regard to Baston, who might actually have fitted into Swansea's passing-game style of play better than Llorente - unfortunately, he may have overlooked the small fact that when Baston was bought we weren't playing any kind of passing game.

There's a decent player somewhere in there, and I'm hopeful that Clement can improve him, if he stays.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 17:55 - Jan 25 with 1781 viewsLeonWasGod

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 14:14 - Jan 25 by Tummer_from_Texas

I thought Michu was used as a nine from time to time. See commentary after his 9th goal vs West Brom at 1:30.



He played in the CF position but not as an old-fashioned number 9 target man. I think that's what Dr_W was getting at. We changed style drastically when we signed Wilf.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 18:03 - Jan 25 with 1766 viewsDr_Winston

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 17:55 - Jan 25 by LeonWasGod

He played in the CF position but not as an old-fashioned number 9 target man. I think that's what Dr_W was getting at. We changed style drastically when we signed Wilf.


Yup.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 18:53 - Jan 25 with 1716 viewsTheResurrection

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 06:27 - Jan 25 by NOTRAC

Llorente is now consistently showing his class, and obviously has become a very important player for us. Spanish players seem to suit us ,and have been the mainstay in our style and in our success. This is the complete opposite ,in the main, of French players,Gomis being a prime example.Llorente has scored a number of 'toe poke ' goals for us,the one on Saturday being a typical example.These goals may seem easy, but involve tremendous speed of thought.Very few players are capable of scoring this type of goal and Llorente is up there amongst the very best.We are very lucky to have had him for only £5m .


Haha are you serious??

They are the easiest goal in the whole book - unmissable!! Gees!

And consistent? Where were you for the Arsenal game?

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:02 - Jan 25 with 1700 viewsTheResurrection

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 18:03 - Jan 25 by Dr_Winston

Yup.


No yup, butt.

He played the false 9.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:12 - Jan 25 with 1664 viewsDr_Winston

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:02 - Jan 25 by TheResurrection

No yup, butt.

He played the false 9.


Siggy's played the false nine. That doesn't make him a targetman.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:19 - Jan 25 with 1647 viewsnyc_swans

was that west brom game the game with the 3 wingers formation? how did the team line up again?

that was a stroke of genius.
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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:24 - Jan 25 with 1629 viewsDr_Winston

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:19 - Jan 25 by nyc_swans

was that west brom game the game with the 3 wingers formation? how did the team line up again?

that was a stroke of genius.


Routledge, Dyer and Hernandez with Michu drifting from midfield. It was like trying to mark fog for the West Brom defenders.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:34 - Jan 25 with 1602 viewsTummer_from_Texas

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:19 - Jan 25 by nyc_swans

was that west brom game the game with the 3 wingers formation? how did the team line up again?

that was a stroke of genius.


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25 Gerhard Tremmel
6 Ashley Williams
4 Chico
33 Ben Davies
22 Angel Rangel
24 Ki Sung-Yeung
7 Leon Britton
9 Michu 9' - sub 86' 26 Kemy Agustien
15 Wayne Routledge 11' 39'
11 Pablo Hernández - sub 75' 20 Jonathan de Guzmán
12 Nathan Dyer - sub 64' 19 Luke Moore

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 11:02 - Jan 26 with 1452 viewsTheResurrection

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 19:12 - Jan 25 by Dr_Winston

Siggy's played the false nine. That doesn't make him a targetman.


What does it actually make Siggy?

I mean, where is his best position? We've tried him in the Michu false 9 and well, there's no comparison whatsoever. We've tried him in the AM and I think even his biggest admirers would say his performances have been underwhelming at best.

But people say he's not a left midfielder as well.

It's a bit of a bloody problem isn't it?

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 11:25 - Jan 26 with 1435 viewsDr_Winston

Siggy's best when he's got a selfless striker ahead of him to play off. Problem is the goals tend to dry up for whoever that is, unless you're Bony and a bit of a freak capable of doing both jobs.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 13:20 - Jan 26 with 1376 viewsjasper_T

ESPN: Llorente and the return of the "Big Man" in the PL on 10:12 - Jan 25 by Kerouac

Perhaps Allardyce should try licking him.


Thanks for that image in my head ffs
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