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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 12:45 25 Nov 2024
Successive owners. As far as I remember we've been treated poorly as fans since Paladini turned up.
Do we have a united fan group or do we still have 3 or 4 different ones? If so, will they ever unite? |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 10:35 24 Nov 2024
I agree, Nourry is the biggest problem at the moment due to his involvement in the football side of things and possibly Hoos too. Why should our Chairman be a part time/semi-retired role FFS.
We've seen before that owners can be distant but the club successful if the right people are involved. The previous owners had their most (only) success by stepping back, installing a Chairman and CEO in Amit and Ishan to manage the day to day. It was manager wants manager gets, but Warnock broke the trend by knowing what to do. I see no reason we couldn't have similar success with a good coach and DoF.
So it can be done with the right appointments while people willing to lose 2m a month are probably harder to find than competent DOF, CEO and Chairman. We have a good coach who's proven his ability, so let's get the other appointments up to a similar level and we could start behaving like a professional club.
I've said before that possibly the most diplomatic approach would be to appoint a DoF and keep Nourry in a CEO role with no football involvement until the end of season. Then I'd be sacking Hoos and Nourry. Nourry may prove to be better in a reduced role. |
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Reply | Andy Belk
at 14:36 22 Nov 2024
I would say being diplomatic rather than lying.
We don't know how happy he was with the transfer window because the correct answer to the question posed is the same if you're happy, or if you're not and the players are being forced on you.
A large part of his job is man management, it would be very poor from him to pass on any doubts or criticisms he had about the transfer dealings on to the players or public. |
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Reply | Andy Belk
at 13:01 22 Nov 2024
“If there is a specific hot button issue where there’s a level of disagreement on a certain player then I will spend more time looking at a player myself. But generally speaking, I’m not sitting there watching hundreds of games a day.” - Sounds a bit like if there's a disagreement he will make the final decision to me, otherwise why is he spending MORE time looking at the player?
What on earth qualifies him to have an opinion? Didn't we have a load of fans moaning that Les didn't have enough experience to be a DoF...now we've got this! |
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Reply | Andy Belk
at 12:51 22 Nov 2024
I'm sure he did, what do you expect him to say publicly? I assume that was through official channels as well because nobody else was allowed to interview him to dig any deeper into that.
We know typically managers are looking for instant success, that's why the DoF system works well with clubs that go through managers as quickly as we do. So while I'm sure they would have spoke to Marti, I think it's naïve to think he would be pushing for the club to be spending money on "projects" instead of players who could make an impact.
The summers transfers seem to be someone trying to be clever and find value everywhere by brining in potential that may come good down the line but without the balance of sufficient players coming into the first team ready to make an impact.
So, I suspect the final say on signings was with Nourry as a "football focused CEO". Ideally the guy setting the transfer and wage budgets would be detached from the transfer decisions. Combining the DoF and CEO role into one seems like a bad decision to me. |
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Reply | Andy Belk
at 12:29 22 Nov 2024
Yeah, not his fault at all. I did think when I first saw him that it was good that he was willing to pass forwards and take a risk with the ball, we always struggle to progress the ball forwards, so thought it might help out a bit. But it doesn't seem to be working out. He's definitely one that would have benefited from a slower introduction to the first team moving to a new country and taking up a new position is a big ask. |
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Reply | Andy Belk
at 10:13 22 Nov 2024
I'm still not sure that he got a free hand this summer, it's still a team effort.
If you take the Madsen transfer as an example, we heard from Gallen that speaking to other scouts they identified that he was weak and non-combative. So we either missed something that everyone else could see or we decided we could develop him to remove that. If it's the first one then fair enough, he's missed what everyone else has seen and should take the criticism. If he's reported back that he's got the strength of a wet cardboard box and the DoF/manager/performance director has stepped in and said we can get him in they gym and beef him up or train it out of him, then it's not really his fault.
It's like signing injury prone players, as a scout you would probably flag it and you might be able to give them some idea of what their injury record is to see if it's one problem they need to solve or if he's breaking down all over the place. But the decision to take the risk and try to fix his injury record should be a conversation between DoF and Physio/medical team, not the scouting team.
Having said that, god knows who was in the room when we signed Santos. |
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Reply | Injury Updates
at 08:03 21 Nov 2024
Well, he's instincts are pretty poor if he thought a wall of silence was the best way to run the place. Just because he's changed now after months doesn't really change the fact that he's so inept he thought it was a good idea in the first place.
It sits alongside other stupid ideas like the one where he's got enough knowledge and experience to do the DoF role. Would welcome a U-turn on that idea of his too. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 16:02 15 Nov 2024
Injuries are a big part of it, last season it seemed to be much better. Last season Ben Williams seemed to be far more involved, at the fans meeting etc getting things sorted that were in bad shape when he arrived. Now he's working for someone else, we're told he's still here but he works from Dubai and the injury situation has gone backwards. Who decided that our head of performance is a part time role that can be done remotely?
On the face of it, it's an insult to our club and one that our CEO is happy to go along with. If Williams was employed through Retexo is there a conflict of interest there, otherwise I'm not sure how the club wouldn't be better off with some in that role at the training ground full time rather than this nonsense. |
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Reply | Begovic's Opinion
at 10:29 15 Nov 2024
Goal Prevented
2023-24 - Begovic -7.8
2024-25 Nardi - +0.4 (so far)
As others have said we got clean sheets mainly due to the defence. It's not been as solid this year and Nardi only has 2 clean sheets as a result.
We also saw in the last game of the season how Begovic's distribution wasn't great either as Walsh was much better and I think that's one of Nardi strengths too. |
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Reply | Begovic's Opinion
at 09:02 15 Nov 2024
The irony is replacing him with Nardi is probably the only area they've managed to get better for cheaper. |
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Reply | manager
at 18:54 11 Nov 2024
Depending on how good his PowerPoint is, he could be appointed as manager, DoF, CEO and Chairman. |
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Reply | Savage amusement - Report
at 18:40 11 Nov 2024
The only way we're getting rid of those players is if the owners buy a club at a suitable level. Maybe Scottish League 1 or 2. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 13:52 11 Nov 2024
That's worse than I thought.
I think Hoos has to go as well. How has he accepted Nourry doing that. What other club has a CEO who also acts as DoF? It's nonsense. |
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Reply | Savage amusement - Report
at 13:41 11 Nov 2024
We're 1.5 months away from him being given free reign again, so I'd say now is a great time to get rid of him before he buys another Santos, Madsen or Clear.
At the very least I'd be getting in a competent DoF to sit between him and the recruitment team.
I really don't see what the coaches are supposed to do with the injury list and players provided. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 13:22 11 Nov 2024
What I don't get is who's idea was it to role the CEO and DoF into one job?
If it was Hoos, that's quite an about turn from his comments when originally joining. If it is Nourry then who signed off on it? It's one thing to have him setting budgets and overseeing the commercial side of the company but it seems negligent to let him be involved in the transfers as well. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 10:01 10 Nov 2024
Well I would agree that the owners should go too, that's a lot harder to do because you need someone to want to buy us. Them being at arms length from the club is really the problem and I think that's why low standards are tolerated because the owners aren't around to intervene when it's happening.
In the absence of new owners Nourry needs to go. We need someone with football experience to be DoF and we need a separate CEO. I'd add that we need to be employing people into these positions who care about the club and will demand higher standards across the board. No more remote working from Dubai.
Another person who seems to be getting away without criticism is Lee Hoos. I thought he was a good hire when he first joined and you can see he lost interest over his tenure. It appears to me he employed Nourry to facilitate his move to chairman/retirement. The fact that he's still employed as our chairman while saying he wanted to wind down was also a disgrace but by then I think most people just wanted a more engaged CEO and didn't realise Nourry would be involved as effectively the DoF as well.
So I'd suggest we make this Lee Hoos problem in some way, maybe bombard him with CV's for the CEO role. If football experience isn't an issue, we should all be in with a shot of getting the gig, at least we'd care about the club.
Anyway I think we should make it clear to Hoos that he's not going to have an easy ride, if he wants to be chairman he needs to get involved and we're not having Nourry. |
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Reply | Nourry should walk.
at 17:05 9 Nov 2024
Strictly speaking Gallen spoke to scouts that had the awareness to recognise Madsen was weak. Presumably he spoke to them after he had signed for us but it does beg the question, what are our scouts doing and reporting back to the people making the decisions? |
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Reply | Nourry should walk.
at 16:59 9 Nov 2024
Probably the half he was responsible for signing. |
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Reply | Nourry should walk.
at 13:34 8 Nov 2024
Agree totally.
In terms of how to resolve this mess, I don't think realistically the board will sack Nourry after only just bringing him in. We need to change his role to that which Hoos used to perform and bring in a DoF to work alongside him. Somebody who knows the game. I'd personally speak with Marti to keep him in the loop and make sure that he's on board with whoever we're bringing in. If it put's Nourrys nose out of joint, tough, like it or sod off.
Like you say, we have January and the idea of Nourry dictating the transfer strategy with Belk again is terrifying. |
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