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Nelson Mandela RIP 21:52 - Dec 5 with 15263 viewsJohnw102

RIP

Never knew getting old would happen so quick!

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:08 - Dec 9 with 1107 viewsLord_Bony

Nelson Mandela RIP on 14:52 - Dec 9 by Lohengrin

They're doing it now. Right now as we sit here. Since 1994 some 60,000 white South Africans have been murdered. That figure includes some 4,000 or so commercial farmers working in isolated areas. Across the border in old Rhodesia the ethnic cleansing is all but complete. In the former bread basket of Africa people are starving.

Mandela didn't come out of gaol, smile benevolently, wave a little magic wand then people all joined hands and lived happily ever after in the rainbow nation. That's the fiction the left-media are trying to sell. The reality is Julius Malema and Ronald Lamola.


Well can you please make up your mind then and stop back tracking.

To me it looks like you are saying since 1994, 60,000 white South Africans have been murdered.


Sorry if I misread that.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:10 - Dec 9 with 1096 viewsItchySphincter

Jacob Zuma is a huge problem. Animal Farm springs to mind.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:20 - Dec 9 with 1077 viewsLohengrin

Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:08 - Dec 9 by Lord_Bony

Well can you please make up your mind then and stop back tracking.

To me it looks like you are saying since 1994, 60,000 white South Africans have been murdered.


Sorry if I misread that.


I used the term ethnic cleansing in relation to Rhodesia. I consider it wholly accurate.

As regards South Africa what would that figure mean? Some 6,000 or so a year. It's entirely possible. When you scan the net you can come up with all sorts to either back-up or debunk such figures. It would be nice to believe it was impossible, though I rather suspect there's more than a grain of truth there.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 22:26 - Dec 9 with 1002 viewsLord_Bony

It was an absolute pleasure to be amongst the whole stadium clapping for one minute in respect to the man.

Just how it should have been.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 23:29 - Dec 9 with 982 viewsLohengrin

Nelson Mandela RIP on 22:26 - Dec 9 by Lord_Bony

It was an absolute pleasure to be amongst the whole stadium clapping for one minute in respect to the man.

Just how it should have been.


Danny Graham did say in the interview on Sky how touched he had been.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 15:55 - Dec 10 with 932 viewsDidz1234

Rest in Power.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 15:57 - Dec 10 with 930 viewsDarran

Nelson Mandela RIP on 15:55 - Dec 10 by Didz1234

Rest in Power.



In power of what?

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:10 - Dec 10 with 924 viewsItchySphincter

Nelson Mandela RIP on 15:55 - Dec 10 by Didz1234

Rest in Power.



Warra pillock.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:14 - Dec 10 with 923 viewsApathy

Nelson Mandela RIP on 15:55 - Dec 10 by Didz1234

Rest in Power.



Go and burn your bra, you f*cking biff

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:29 - Dec 10 with 915 viewsLohengrin



Mugabe: I've killed indiscriminately. Women, children it made no difference.

Mandela: Ha! Ha! Me too.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:42 - Dec 10 with 899 viewsCountyJim

Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:29 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin



Mugabe: I've killed indiscriminately. Women, children it made no difference.

Mandela: Ha! Ha! Me too.


Mugabe as side who is a butcher and Mandela a statesman would have to have these photos taken in fact didnt our own Queen meet Mugabe a few times as well didnt Churchill do same thing in the war or am I missing something ask the people of Dresden who lost many Women and Children
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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:50 - Dec 10 with 890 viewsCountyJim



Here we go
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Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:53 - Dec 10 with 884 viewsCountyJim



The Queen borrowed one of Darran`s shirts for that one
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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:02 - Dec 10 with 874 viewsDarran

Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:53 - Dec 10 by CountyJim



The Queen borrowed one of Darran`s shirts for that one
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It's quite nice.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:09 - Dec 10 with 872 viewsLohengrin

Nelson Mandela RIP on 16:42 - Dec 10 by CountyJim

Mugabe as side who is a butcher and Mandela a statesman would have to have these photos taken in fact didnt our own Queen meet Mugabe a few times as well didnt Churchill do same thing in the war or am I missing something ask the people of Dresden who lost many Women and Children
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Give it up Jim. That pair go back a long, long way. That was no chance encounter, the history and personalities of the ANC and ZANU are so interwoven as to be practically the same movement. Their key cadres used to be sent to Chirimuski and Pyongyeng for ideological and explosives training. Then they'd come back and put it into malign practice.

Not quite the same thing as HM performing her constitutional duties, having to practice a forced civility which no doubt made her sick to the pit of her stomach.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:15 - Dec 10 with 866 viewsCountyJim

Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:09 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Give it up Jim. That pair go back a long, long way. That was no chance encounter, the history and personalities of the ANC and ZANU are so interwoven as to be practically the same movement. Their key cadres used to be sent to Chirimuski and Pyongyeng for ideological and explosives training. Then they'd come back and put it into malign practice.

Not quite the same thing as HM performing her constitutional duties, having to practice a forced civility which no doubt made her sick to the pit of her stomach.


So Mr Churchill didnt kill innocent Women and children then as I said before the ANC where at war as where we in 1939-45 and still killing innocent civilians in our wars today

So no I wont give up

Mandela was a good man as im sure you will say Churchill was
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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:27 - Dec 10 with 858 viewsLohengrin

Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:15 - Dec 10 by CountyJim

So Mr Churchill didnt kill innocent Women and children then as I said before the ANC where at war as where we in 1939-45 and still killing innocent civilians in our wars today

So no I wont give up

Mandela was a good man as im sure you will say Churchill was


You regard the deliberate targetting and slaughter of women and children as somehow acceptable and its prosecution the actions of "good" men?

Is that really what you believe. That an end can justify any means?

If that's so then it's the point where I begin to question your sanity!

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:35 - Dec 10 with 850 viewsJackfath

I didn't clap Mandela or Graham.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:36 - Dec 10 with 849 viewsCountyJim

Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:27 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

You regard the deliberate targetting and slaughter of women and children as somehow acceptable and its prosecution the actions of "good" men?

Is that really what you believe. That an end can justify any means?

If that's so then it's the point where I begin to question your sanity!


Didnt the bombing of Dresden just a small example deliberately target and slaughter of women and children because that was indiscriminate

Lovely man that Churchill and he also killed many an Indian as well http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/soutikbiswas/2010/10/how_churchill_starv and to think we gave this man a state funeral ffs
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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:49 - Dec 10 with 843 viewsLohengrin

Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:36 - Dec 10 by CountyJim

Didnt the bombing of Dresden just a small example deliberately target and slaughter of women and children because that was indiscriminate

Lovely man that Churchill and he also killed many an Indian as well http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/soutikbiswas/2010/10/how_churchill_starv and to think we gave this man a state funeral ffs


Moral relatavism only works in realtion to moral actions. Dresden was a war crime by any yardstick and there's little virtue in trading atrocity stories.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:57 - Dec 10 with 837 viewsCountyJim

Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:49 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Moral relatavism only works in realtion to moral actions. Dresden was a war crime by any yardstick and there's little virtue in trading atrocity stories.


correct let any world leader step forward and say he or she hasnt done wrong they are all human
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Nelson Mandela RIP on 18:01 - Dec 10 with 834 viewsLohengrin

Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:57 - Dec 10 by CountyJim

correct let any world leader step forward and say he or she hasnt done wrong they are all human


You're a Catholic, Jim. Some sins are Venial, others Mortal.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 18:01 - Dec 10 with 832 viewsDarran

Nelson Mandela RIP on 17:57 - Dec 10 by CountyJim

correct let any world leader step forward and say he or she hasnt done wrong they are all human


You're going to be in bits when Gerry Adams goes Jim.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 18:08 - Dec 10 with 827 viewsJackfath

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. His Umkhonto we Sizwe, the military wing of the African National Congress, targeted civilians.
On May 20, 1983, Umkhonto we Sizwe (aka “Spear of the Nation”) set off a car bomb near the Nedbank Square building on Church Street in the South African capital of Pretoria. The bomb was timed to go off at the height of rush hour. The attack killed 19 people and wounded 217.
From the BBC, May 20, 1983:
A huge pall of smoke rose hundreds of feet into the air as debris and bodies were strewn around the scene of the explosion.
It is understood the bomb had been placed in a blue Alfa Romeo car outside the multistory building, which houses the South African air force headquarters.
It exploded at the height of the city’s rush-hour as hundreds of people were leaving work for the weekend.
Glass and metal were catapulted into the air as shop-fronts and windows were blown out.
Many passers-by had limbs amputated by the flying debris. Others bled to death.
MSNBC and CNN and even Fox will not mention this today as they celebrate Mandela’s “extraordinary example of moral courage, kindness, and humility,” as the White House put it.
Of course, it is hardly surprising the government and its media would praise a terrorist and make him out to be saint. It does this all the time.
From Taliban “freedom fighters” (as the script-reader Reagan dubbed them) who would later become convenient enemies to the creation and support of al-Qaeda and its terrorist operations in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Libya, Syria and elsewhere, the U.S. government remains actively in the business of manufacturing terrorists, although most of them are not anointed with sainthood like Nelson Mandela.
But, when you think about it, Mandela is merely a low-level terrorist when stacked up against the sort of psychopaths and knuckle-draggers the U.S. government has supported over the years, including General Augusto Pinochet in Chile and General Suharto in Indonesia, to name but two.
Pinochet, with the help of the CIA, disposed of political enemies by throwing them out of helicopters. He was also behind a terrorist car bombing in Washington, D.C., that killed Chile’s ambassador and American citizen Ronni Moffitt. Suharto, a brutal dictator who was installed by the CIA, massacred countless thousands of his fellow Indonesians and arrested and tortured more than 750,000 others.
Other notable examples include Pol Pot in Cambodia. His genocidal Khmer Rogue was favored by the ruling elite as a counter force to Vietnam after it fell to communists outside the bankster sphere of influence. It would take the country a couple decades to transform itself into a globalist slave labor gulag.
It probably will not be mentioned today or in the coming week that in the not too distant past the government Obama now represents (or reads a teleprompter for) supported racists in South Africa and Rhodesia.
Reagan, who liked to fashion himself a libertarian (or his speechwriters did, anyway), supported P.W. Botha’s South African government and its “total war” on a black majority. Nixon did likewise when Ian Smith’s Rhodesian government engaged in starving to death citizens who wanted to throw out the white minority government ruling with an iron fist.
The list of favored thugs and mass murderers is long and sordid. It includes tenacious bankster support for Adolf Hitler and the Nazis (supporters included members of the Bush crime family).
Finally, while Obama and the establishment lionize Mandela and couple him to the struggle for human rights in Africa, the Pentagon continues its move into the continent under the rubric of AFRICOM, the U.S. military command for Africa. In order to put this into perspective, consider the invasion of Libya that killed more than 30,000 of the north African nation’s citizens and installed al-Qaeda and the crazed jihadists.
AFRICOM is designed to pacify the region ahead of normal bankster operations conducted by the World Bank and the IMF. AFRICOM’s mission was underscored by Vice Admiral Robert T. Moeller at Fort McNair on February 18, 2008, when he declared the guiding principle of AFRICOM is to protect “the free flow of natural resources from Africa to the global market.”
Nelson Mandela is another establishment generated distraction. His sanitized presence in the manipulated flow of corporate media propaganda and entertainment fluff is designed to bolster the latest tool of domination devised by the ruling elite — color and culturally based political correctness. All who disagree or take issue with the ruling elite and their plan for global domination are dismissed as scurrilous racists and haters.

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Nelson Mandela RIP on 18:15 - Dec 10 with 819 viewsCountyJim

Nelson Mandela RIP on 18:01 - Dec 10 by Darran

You're going to be in bits when Gerry Adams goes Jim.


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A Catholic lad as well same as any conflict the good die as well

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