| We have too many... 16:08 - Jan 23 with 785 views | SullutaCreturned |
What can it be, people waiting for am,bulances, people waiting for operations....NOPE, apparently we have too many hospitals and too many beds...
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| We have too many... on 16:11 - Jan 23 with 775 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Waiting list in Wales NHS now tops 800,000. It has gone up in each of the last 10 months!
Boy do we need a change in Wales. [Post edited 23 Jan 16:49]
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| We have too many... on 16:17 - Jan 23 with 766 views | blackswan |
Mark Dreadful should be sectioned absolutely bonkers | | | |
| We have too many... on 16:25 - Jan 23 with 749 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| We have too many... on 16:17 - Jan 23 by blackswan |
Mark Dreadful should be sectioned absolutely bonkers |
I liked his reasoning " 10 times as many people see a GP than go into secondary care, we have too many hospital beds " | |
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| We have too many... on 16:34 - Jan 23 with 726 views | felixstowe_jack |
The waiting list for those waiting more than 2 years in Wales has gone up again to 24,000. | |
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| We have too many... on 16:38 - Jan 23 with 713 views | blackswan |
Yep there's so many beds that patients are being treated in corridors guys a tw@ | | | |
| We have too many... on 16:56 - Jan 23 with 683 views | union_jack |
| We have too many... on 16:38 - Jan 23 by blackswan |
Yep there's so many beds that patients are being treated in corridors guys a tw@ |
Or in the back of an ambulance like my MiL this week for 24 hours.
What world does this moron live in. Is he suggesting that we consolidate secondary care because we’ll know the end result of that, one huge hospital in Cardiff for all of Wales. And there’ll still be 12 hours+ in A&E. |  |
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| We have too many... on 17:12 - Jan 23 with 666 views | Luther27 |
We don’t have to many Senedd members though do we Mark.
The idiot should be sectioned for our safety. | | | |
| We have too many... on 17:15 - Jan 23 with 662 views | AnotherJohn |
The reason many hospital staff give for the log-jam in A&E is the difficulty of moving patients into wards during times, such as winter, when a greater than usual number of people fall ill. They say it is a capacity problem. Of course, this has got worse as bed numbers have not keep up with population growth, meaning that it is not just a winter problem these days.
The Welsh population is now about 3.330,000 and we have about 10,800 hospital beds available on average, That means we have about 3.2 beds per 1000 population. France has around 6 per 1000 and Germany nearly 8. The EU average is over 5. Admittedly, the general trend in Western countries is for a long-term reduction in beds, mainly because of changing technologies, but our numbers are right at the lower end of the range.
During his academic career Mark Drakeford never conducted empirical research on the NHS; his social work/social policy background is no substitute for that kind of expertise. | | | |
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| We have too many... on 17:19 - Jan 23 with 658 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| We have too many... on 17:15 - Jan 23 by AnotherJohn |
The reason many hospital staff give for the log-jam in A&E is the difficulty of moving patients into wards during times, such as winter, when a greater than usual number of people fall ill. They say it is a capacity problem. Of course, this has got worse as bed numbers have not keep up with population growth, meaning that it is not just a winter problem these days.
The Welsh population is now about 3.330,000 and we have about 10,800 hospital beds available on average, That means we have about 3.2 beds per 1000 population. France has around 6 per 1000 and Germany nearly 8. The EU average is over 5. Admittedly, the general trend in Western countries is for a long-term reduction in beds, mainly because of changing technologies, but our numbers are right at the lower end of the range.
During his academic career Mark Drakeford never conducted empirical research on the NHS; his social work/social policy background is no substitute for that kind of expertise. |
Good post, 3,300,000 population, 800,000 on waiting list, 10,800 hospital beds, Drakeford's conclusion: too many hospitals. | |
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| We have too many... on 17:39 - Jan 23 with 640 views | Whiterockin |
Bookmark this for the next Senedd elections. Just think who you are voting for. |  | | |
| We have too many... on 18:57 - Jan 23 with 557 views | SullutaCreturned |
I had thought that when Drakeford stood down as FM that was him done with politics. Just what the bloody hell did we do to deserve having him back?
He was a dreadful health minister, a dreadful FM and now he's finance minister... | | | |
| We have too many... on 21:52 - Jan 23 with 468 views | majorraglan |
He is right that most contacts are in Primary Care, but that’s a very simplistic way of looking at it things. It’s clear that many beds in hospital are taken by people who don’t need to be there, but as care in the community is really poor and there is nowhere for patients to be discharged to what does he expect? Carers get a poor deal and often, with house prices as they are, 2 incomes required to buy a house etc lots of families struggle to support elderly and unwell family.
Maybe, if care was resourced properly we’d see less bed blocking and with advances in technology more day surgery etc etc and less stays in hospital, but resourcing care properly is years away. Too many hospitals, if we were a densely populated area like London maybe, but we aren’t, our population is spread overcast huge area and it doesn’t start and end in Cardiff.
I wonder if he thinks we’ve got too many politicians or too many local authorities?
Drakers just needs to retire and get lost - that’s the polite version!! [Post edited 23 Jan 22:31]
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| We have too many... on 09:11 - Jan 24 with 353 views | Boundy |
One Drakeford is one too many | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| We have too many... on 09:13 - Jan 24 with 350 views | raynor94 |
| We have too many... on 18:57 - Jan 23 by SullutaCreturned |
I had thought that when Drakeford stood down as FM that was him done with politics. Just what the bloody hell did we do to deserve having him back?
He was a dreadful health minister, a dreadful FM and now he's finance minister... |
And now in charge of promoting the Welsh language. |  |
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| We have too many... on 09:23 - Jan 24 with 341 views | onehunglow |
| We have too many... on 09:13 - Jan 24 by raynor94 |
And now in charge of promoting the Welsh language. |
Morning Ray
Why do folk believe it should be “ promoted”
Think Wales has bigger issues than what language to complain in. | |
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| We have too many... on 10:09 - Jan 24 with 302 views | union_jack |
| We have too many... on 09:13 - Jan 24 by raynor94 |
And now in charge of promoting the Welsh language. |
Dear God, in charge of the coffers and the Welsh language. What could possibly go wrong? Less hospitals maybe? | |
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| We have too many... on 10:17 - Jan 24 with 284 views | onehunglow |
| We have too many... on 10:09 - Jan 24 by union_jack |
Dear God, in charge of the coffers and the Welsh language. What could possibly go wrong? Less hospitals maybe? |
Does an Ambiwlans get to you any quicker | |
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| We have too many... on 10:24 - Jan 24 with 268 views | Boundy |
Someone's personal story , one I suspect repeated every where in Wales .
"This man & his Labour Party have run our Welsh NHS since 1997 & he now says there are too many beds and hospitals. This angers me deeply. Before Christmas I dialled 111 for a family member, explained matters & they actioned a 999 medical emergency. The paramedic ambulance advice was to go into hospital, but we were faced with the reality that there would not be a bed. Our family member would have faced at least 4 hours in an ambulance, possibly 8, with a trolley in a corridor if we were lucky. There were not enough beds that night. The vital signs were OK and we made the tough decision that our family member stay put in bed, after taking further advice. This was a risk, but a greater risk could have been the trauma of being in an ambulance for hours & then trolley. At home our family member had a warm bed, quiet, care and home comforts, crucially enabling proper rest. Thankfully, things improved and did not get worse. This was second world health care. I could sit for hours and quote more examples: possible death sentences through delay in cancer treatment, a second class & out day 'new' Velindre cancer hospital. So many of us go through really bad experiences. The situation is dire. Until people start voting against the Labour Party & the Uniparty system, nothing will improve. Where you have our candidates available, vote Propel for a change. I disclosed personal information here, but I don't want to talk more about it; thanks in advance for best wishes I know people would have. Things worked out and that's all that matters. A big thank you to the ambulance crew who attended. I just wish that the system enabled great staff to do their jobs properly." | |
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| We have too many... on 10:27 - Jan 24 with 263 views | union_jack |
| We have too many... on 10:17 - Jan 24 by onehunglow |
Does an Ambiwlans get to you any quicker |
They call them mobile wards in this area. Dont have the translation though sorry. | |
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| We have too many... on 10:53 - Jan 24 with 223 views | Luther27 |
Probably not as it’s in English. | | | |
| We have too many... on 11:45 - Jan 24 with 184 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
You can see why we are in such a mess.
He says he has the solution but there's no activity to support it, it's all hot air whilst nothing changes. | |
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| We have too many... on 12:08 - Jan 24 with 151 views | Boundy |
| We have too many... on 11:45 - Jan 24 by JACKMANANDBOY |
You can see why we are in such a mess.
He says he has the solution but there's no activity to support it, it's all hot air whilst nothing changes. |
and yet Morriston is the only 24 hour A&E serving this part of w S Wales , a total and utter disgrace and we have some bleating about trees and the Welsh language as being more of a priority for those in power. | |
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| We have too many... on 12:12 - Jan 24 with 146 views | jack247 |
| We have too many... on 12:08 - Jan 24 by Boundy |
and yet Morriston is the only 24 hour A&E serving this part of w S Wales , a total and utter disgrace and we have some bleating about trees and the Welsh language as being more of a priority for those in power. |
This is what happens when a party knows they’ll be voted in no matter what | | | |
| We have too many... on 15:46 - Jan 24 with 54 views | SullutaCreturned |
| We have too many... on 09:13 - Jan 24 by raynor94 |
And now in charge of promoting the Welsh language. |
That's probably why it's in decline then. Drakeford needs to go back to school. | | | |
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