| Project 5000 06:45 - Jan 7 with 3377 views | Dale_4_Life |
Looks like it can be done.
Interesting article in the Sunday Times last weekend with Andy Woodman at Bromley.
One paragraph stood out and encouragement for RAFC.
"The capacity at the ground is 5000 and we sell out every home game. When i came to the football club the average gate was 900 and we had 200 season ticket holders. Now we have sell outs and 2500 season ticket holders. The owner and chairman Robin Stanton-Gleaves is building the club very intelligently. |  | | |  |
| Project 5000 on 09:33 - Jan 7 with 3213 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
Not with the current shambles it can’t. |  | | |
| Project 5000 on 09:58 - Jan 7 with 3158 views | Rehsad |
I don't know which numbers Andy Woodman is looking at. He's been there since 2021 and yes - that part ois true - in 2021 the average home gate was 900 - but it was Covid -affected reported figures. The season before's average gate was 0ver 2000 and the season after (AW's first full season) it was down at 1900. Today it's around 3500.
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/bromley/attendances
I can believe that they have 2000-2500 season card holders - and I can also believe that if they make 3000 tickets available to home fans then they can sell them all (on Saturdays). This is not selling out 5000 every week though.
Do I think that it can be done? Of course. | | | |
| Project 5000 on 17:31 - Jan 7 with 2780 views | Dale_4_Life |
My OP was taken word for word from the Sunday times last weekend.
Whilst there could be journalistic license at play there is no doubt the crowds at Bromley are have been on an upward trend.
Closer to home Stockport have seen significant crowd increases in the last 10 years.
The obvious difference (compared to Dale) is both Bromley and Stockport have had a winning product on the pitch something the football club must not lose sight of. When I say winning I mean promotions not the occasional home win. | | | |
| Project 5000 on 17:46 - Jan 7 with 2727 views | EllDale |
Would there be regular good numbers of away supporters in L2 to boost attendances? | | | |
| Project 5000 on 19:42 - Jan 7 with 2548 views | rochedale |
I remember a good few years back, we played Chesterfield on a Tuesday night. I think we were first and second, the gate was 5000. A small shred of evidence to help prove that crowds will increase if the product is good and we are winning games.
You can drop the price and do all kinds of initiatives, but the best way to improve those gates is by flying high in the table. |  |
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| Project 5000 on 21:29 - Jan 7 with 2363 views | realisticdale33 |
The way I see it is I’d rather 2000 proper Dale fans who go regardless of wins then an added 3000 on the gate who support united and city and are coming because we are an easy option and are doing well | | | |
| Project 5000 on 08:07 - Jan 8 with 2031 views | Dale_4_Life |
Everybody is welcome at Spotland.
2000 regulars
600 occassionals
1000 from united
1000 from City
399 from wherever that even leaves one seat for any intrigued closet Dale Biffo.
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| Project 5000 on 14:43 - Jan 8 with 1693 views | finberty |
| Project 5000 on 21:29 - Jan 7 by realisticdale33 |
The way I see it is I’d rather 2000 proper Dale fans who go regardless of wins then an added 3000 on the gate who support united and city and are coming because we are an easy option and are doing well |
Filed under ‘economic madness’. |  | | |
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| Project 5000 on 15:19 - Jan 8 with 1616 views | James1980 |
| Project 5000 on 08:07 - Jan 8 by Dale_4_Life |
Everybody is welcome at Spotland.
2000 regulars
600 occassionals
1000 from united
1000 from City
399 from wherever that even leaves one seat for any intrigued closet Dale Biffo.
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'closet biffo' not sure if that's realistic. | |
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| Project 5000 on 15:41 - Jan 8 with 1556 views | Edindale |
| Project 5000 on 19:42 - Jan 7 by rochedale |
I remember a good few years back, we played Chesterfield on a Tuesday night. I think we were first and second, the gate was 5000. A small shred of evidence to help prove that crowds will increase if the product is good and we are winning games.
You can drop the price and do all kinds of initiatives, but the best way to improve those gates is by flying high in the table. |
I was also there, but both both are mutually compatible. The product was good! | | | |
| Project 5000 on 15:48 - Jan 8 with 1542 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Project 5000 on 15:19 - Jan 8 by James1980 |
'closet biffo' not sure if that's realistic. |
Quite brilliant James...
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| Project 5000 on 17:14 - Jan 8 with 1465 views | AtThePeake |
| Project 5000 on 19:42 - Jan 7 by rochedale |
I remember a good few years back, we played Chesterfield on a Tuesday night. I think we were first and second, the gate was 5000. A small shred of evidence to help prove that crowds will increase if the product is good and we are winning games.
You can drop the price and do all kinds of initiatives, but the best way to improve those gates is by flying high in the table. |
The average attendance in the season we last got promoted from League Two was lower than the average attendance in the season we got relegated from League Two. |  |
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| Project 5000 on 17:20 - Jan 8 with 1439 views | realisticdale33 |
| Project 5000 on 08:07 - Jan 8 by Dale_4_Life |
Everybody is welcome at Spotland.
2000 regulars
600 occassionals
1000 from united
1000 from City
399 from wherever that even leaves one seat for any intrigued closet Dale Biffo.
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Well I don’t want any BIFFO United or city fans sat next to me. | | | |
| Project 5000 on 13:24 - Jan 9 with 773 views | rochedale |
| Project 5000 on 17:14 - Jan 8 by AtThePeake |
The average attendance in the season we last got promoted from League Two was lower than the average attendance in the season we got relegated from League Two. |
Understandable maybe as the fans were hoping to push the players on to stave off relegation.
In the season we finished in our highest league position in league one, the attendance was up 14% from the previous season. | |
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| Project 5000 on 13:31 - Jan 9 with 761 views | TVOS1907 |
| Project 5000 on 17:14 - Jan 8 by AtThePeake |
The average attendance in the season we last got promoted from League Two was lower than the average attendance in the season we got relegated from League Two. |
The average number of home fans wasn't though.
2494 in 2013/14
2317 in 2022/23
The average number of away fans in 2022/23 (711) was much higher than in 2013/14 (401). |  |
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| Project 5000 on 13:58 - Jan 9 with 698 views | D_Alien |
| Project 5000 on 13:31 - Jan 9 by TVOS1907 |
The average number of home fans wasn't though.
2494 in 2013/14
2317 in 2022/23
The average number of away fans in 2022/23 (711) was much higher than in 2013/14 (401). |
Whilst on the topic, which season saw the highest average number of home fans, since (the year) 2000? |  |
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| Project 5000 on 14:19 - Jan 9 with 638 views | TVOS1907 |
| Project 5000 on 13:58 - Jan 9 by D_Alien |
Whilst on the topic, which season saw the highest average number of home fans, since (the year) 2000? |
2009/10 - average home fans 3070 | |
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| Project 5000 on 14:35 - Jan 9 with 605 views | D_Alien |
| Project 5000 on 14:19 - Jan 9 by TVOS1907 |
2009/10 - average home fans 3070 |
Thanks
It'd be wiser (i think) to call our current 'project' Project 3000
Then take it from there | |
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| Project 5000 on 17:59 - Jan 9 with 406 views | James1980 |
| Project 5000 on 14:35 - Jan 9 by D_Alien |
Thanks
It'd be wiser (i think) to call our current 'project' Project 3000
Then take it from there |
Perhaps 3000 will be an intended milestone on the way. Unfortunately I can't make it, but it will be good if questions are asked about, project 5000 at the fans forum. | |
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| Project 5000 on 18:12 - Jan 9 with 373 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Project 5000 on 17:59 - Jan 9 by James1980 |
Perhaps 3000 will be an intended milestone on the way. Unfortunately I can't make it, but it will be good if questions are asked about, project 5000 at the fans forum. |
I agree James it would.
A fans focus group should be a priority. They would come up with 25 easy wins that could be considered (some could probably be actioned with immediate effect).
There needs to be the will. There needs to be a person in charge that drives it forward.
Agreed getting back to 3000 and our highest average attendance in recent times. | | | |
| Project 5000 on 18:29 - Jan 9 with 320 views | 442Dale |
| Project 5000 on 18:12 - Jan 9 by Dale_4_Life |
I agree James it would.
A fans focus group should be a priority. They would come up with 25 easy wins that could be considered (some could probably be actioned with immediate effect).
There needs to be the will. There needs to be a person in charge that drives it forward.
Agreed getting back to 3000 and our highest average attendance in recent times. |
If the club seriously want to achieve success in such a project, they should commit to ensuring those currently at Spotland day to day have little or no involvement.
Start afresh. |  |
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