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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight 18:22 - Sep 26 with 2696 viewsAnotherJohn

A gripping and deeply moving documentary will be broadcast on BBC2 at 9.00 pm tonight, and is already viewable on iPlayer. It is the story of how a large number of socially-liberal young people attending a peace and love festival were murdered by terrorists.

https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/proginfo/2024/39/surviving-october-seventh-we-wi
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 08:56 - Sep 27 with 1886 viewsAnotherJohn

The URL for iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0023b3m/surviving-october-7th-we-will-dan

I'm surprised at the lack of interest in this. It contains some of the most graphic first-person video I've seen in any documentary, as well as some deeply tragic personal stories. The combination of video, maps and interviews gives a much better picture of what happened in and around the Nova festival when Hamas attacked than I had before.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 09:01 - Sep 27 with 1879 viewsonehunglow

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 08:56 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn

The URL for iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0023b3m/surviving-october-7th-we-will-dan

I'm surprised at the lack of interest in this. It contains some of the most graphic first-person video I've seen in any documentary, as well as some deeply tragic personal stories. The combination of video, maps and interviews gives a much better picture of what happened in and around the Nova festival when Hamas attacked than I had before.


It might be that it leads to unpleasant exchanges which have led to recent bans
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 10:34 - Sep 27 with 1854 viewsKeithHaynes

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 09:01 - Sep 27 by onehunglow

It might be that it leads to unpleasant exchanges which have led to recent bans
We re on best behaviour now
One can always Chuck insults by DM


They will be detected, same outcome.

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 10:42 - Sep 27 with 1846 viewsraynor94

Excellent programme, but a truly harrowing watch, unbelievable how so many escaped death

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 11:22 - Sep 27 with 1825 viewsWhiterockin

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 08:56 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn

The URL for iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0023b3m/surviving-october-7th-we-will-dan

I'm surprised at the lack of interest in this. It contains some of the most graphic first-person video I've seen in any documentary, as well as some deeply tragic personal stories. The combination of video, maps and interviews gives a much better picture of what happened in and around the Nova festival when Hamas attacked than I had before.


I have children and grandchildren who go to festivals so not for me, there some things I just don't want to think about.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 11:40 - Sep 27 with 1815 viewsonehunglow

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 10:34 - Sep 27 by KeithHaynes

They will be detected, same outcome.


Now yiu mentioned detectives ergo policing,did you do much football duty
I did ask you previously but that post slipped through your net,Guv .

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 11:46 - Sep 27 with 1810 viewsGwyn737

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 08:56 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn

The URL for iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0023b3m/surviving-october-7th-we-will-dan

I'm surprised at the lack of interest in this. It contains some of the most graphic first-person video I've seen in any documentary, as well as some deeply tragic personal stories. The combination of video, maps and interviews gives a much better picture of what happened in and around the Nova festival when Hamas attacked than I had before.


I read the synopsis and couldn't bring myself to watch it.

I'll give it a go on the weekend when I'm a bit more awake and can do it justice.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 12:06 - Sep 27 with 1798 viewsAnotherJohn

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 11:22 - Sep 27 by Whiterockin

I have children and grandchildren who go to festivals so not for me, there some things I just don't want to think about.


In a way the similarity of these victims to people we know - or even ourselves when young - made this documentary all the more poignant. The young people were there having a good time, many under the influence of alcohol and drugs, and suddenly men from a completely different world arrived and punctured that bubble of peace and love. The ones I could not identify with were the Hamas gunmen chivvying each other up as they departed Gaza on motorcycles, and smiling as they killed. Many of the Go-pro style video clips came from them. The film brought to mind the comments Mel Stride and Angela Raynor made recently about there being nothing to take offence over when pro-Palestine protesters shout Allaha Akbar. Anybody seeing this documentary will feel a shiver down their spine if they hear those words said in anger - they were repeated so many times in this killing spree.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 22:21 - Sep 27 with 1683 viewsSullutaCreturned

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 08:56 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn

The URL for iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0023b3m/surviving-october-7th-we-will-dan

I'm surprised at the lack of interest in this. It contains some of the most graphic first-person video I've seen in any documentary, as well as some deeply tragic personal stories. The combination of video, maps and interviews gives a much better picture of what happened in and around the Nova festival when Hamas attacked than I had before.


I saw some of the footage on breakfast news including some filmed by Hamas. It made for uncomfortable viewing and I have no wish to see even more of it.

Hamas are rabid animals but what Israel have done in return is abhorrent. What's happening out there is awful and it appears to be spreading, with what's going on in Ukraine it looks like the world is heading in a bad direction.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 11:23 - Sep 28 with 1599 viewsAnotherJohn

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 22:21 - Sep 27 by SullutaCreturned

I saw some of the footage on breakfast news including some filmed by Hamas. It made for uncomfortable viewing and I have no wish to see even more of it.

Hamas are rabid animals but what Israel have done in return is abhorrent. What's happening out there is awful and it appears to be spreading, with what's going on in Ukraine it looks like the world is heading in a bad direction.


Obviously it is a personal decision if people prefer not to watch documentaries that record horrific events. Personally, I always think examining additional data almost always aids understanding, no matter how uncomfortable it may be to view those data.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 12:16 - Sep 28 with 1544 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 12:06 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn

In a way the similarity of these victims to people we know - or even ourselves when young - made this documentary all the more poignant. The young people were there having a good time, many under the influence of alcohol and drugs, and suddenly men from a completely different world arrived and punctured that bubble of peace and love. The ones I could not identify with were the Hamas gunmen chivvying each other up as they departed Gaza on motorcycles, and smiling as they killed. Many of the Go-pro style video clips came from them. The film brought to mind the comments Mel Stride and Angela Raynor made recently about there being nothing to take offence over when pro-Palestine protesters shout Allaha Akbar. Anybody seeing this documentary will feel a shiver down their spine if they hear those words said in anger - they were repeated so many times in this killing spree.


It’s frightening that there are people out there who think Hamas are the good guys.

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 16:31 - Sep 28 with 1475 viewsonehunglow

To me,Hamas clearly enjoy killing whereas the Israelis kill because they feel they have to.

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 17:19 - Sep 28 with 1419 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 16:31 - Sep 28 by onehunglow

To me,Hamas clearly enjoy killing whereas the Israelis kill because they feel they have to.


Do you recall the immediate reaction to the terror attacks of 9/11? As expressions of shock, condemnation and condolences came in from around the islamic world and all the good people of that faith, the Palestinians of the West Bank Gaza and East Jerusalem were to be found dancing in the streets cheering and celebrating like they had just won the World Cup.

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 17:25 - Sep 28 with 1407 viewscontroversial_jack

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 17:19 - Sep 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Do you recall the immediate reaction to the terror attacks of 9/11? As expressions of shock, condemnation and condolences came in from around the islamic world and all the good people of that faith, the Palestinians of the West Bank Gaza and East Jerusalem were to be found dancing in the streets cheering and celebrating like they had just won the World Cup.


Most of that was staged and falsified by our wonderful free press.

Israel had a lot of sympathy after the Hamas attacks. That has now gone and been replaced by revulsion by most decent people
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 17:59 - Sep 28 with 1373 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 12:16 - Sep 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

It’s frightening that there are people out there who think Hamas are the good guys.


There's one on here.

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 18:41 - Sep 28 with 1338 viewsonehunglow

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 17:19 - Sep 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Do you recall the immediate reaction to the terror attacks of 9/11? As expressions of shock, condemnation and condolences came in from around the islamic world and all the good people of that faith, the Palestinians of the West Bank Gaza and East Jerusalem were to be found dancing in the streets cheering and celebrating like they had just won the World Cup.


I do indeed
It was like the IRA spectaculars of old

9/11 has been denied and excused by some

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 19:06 - Sep 28 with 1305 viewsAnotherJohn

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 17:19 - Sep 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Do you recall the immediate reaction to the terror attacks of 9/11? As expressions of shock, condemnation and condolences came in from around the islamic world and all the good people of that faith, the Palestinians of the West Bank Gaza and East Jerusalem were to be found dancing in the streets cheering and celebrating like they had just won the World Cup.


Same thing a year ago.


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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 19:19 - Sep 28 with 1296 viewsSullutaCreturned

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 11:23 - Sep 28 by AnotherJohn

Obviously it is a personal decision if people prefer not to watch documentaries that record horrific events. Personally, I always think examining additional data almost always aids understanding, no matter how uncomfortable it may be to view those data.


I have watched such programmes, plenty of stuff about the Holocaust, the Irish potato famine and the events that caused it and prolonged it, the treatment of native peoples in the USA, Australia, India and on the African continent.

I don't need to be reminded how evil, twisted and sick humanity is, I think I understand that well enough.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 23:04 - Sep 28 with 1213 viewsunion_jack

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 08:56 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn

The URL for iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0023b3m/surviving-october-7th-we-will-dan

I'm surprised at the lack of interest in this. It contains some of the most graphic first-person video I've seen in any documentary, as well as some deeply tragic personal stories. The combination of video, maps and interviews gives a much better picture of what happened in and around the Nova festival when Hamas attacked than I had before.


My God, that was a powerful documentary.

I only hope Israel stick to their word and obliterate Hamas from the face of this planet. Pure evil.

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 02:01 - Sep 29 with 1185 viewsDJack

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 23:04 - Sep 28 by union_jack

My God, that was a powerful documentary.

I only hope Israel stick to their word and obliterate Hamas from the face of this planet. Pure evil.


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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 07:57 - Sep 29 with 1147 viewsAnotherJohn

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 02:01 - Sep 29 by DJack

... and Bibi?


There are questions certainly, but at least we do not have throngs of protesters on British streets chanting “Am Yisrael Chai”. Personally, I do not accept the argument for full equivalence, which some are hinting at.
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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 09:39 - Sep 29 with 1104 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 17:25 - Sep 28 by controversial_jack

Most of that was staged and falsified by our wonderful free press.

Israel had a lot of sympathy after the Hamas attacks. That has now gone and been replaced by revulsion by most decent people


Staged and falsified? No im not even going to bother asking.

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 09:53 - Sep 29 with 1087 viewsonehunglow

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 09:39 - Sep 29 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Staged and falsified? No im not even going to bother asking.


Think a country that sees assassins literally running into a country,smiling as they blow away men women and kids tends to elicit sympathy
Just as well I’m not in politics as we would already have had a nuclear war and I’d be posted this crap from the dust bowl in the sky .
Those Jews had sympathy just after the war when they found all those mass graves and chimneys of death

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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 10:30 - Sep 29 with 1077 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 09:39 - Sep 29 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Staged and falsified? No im not even going to bother asking.


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Surviving October 7th - BBC 2 Tonight on 10:39 - Sep 29 with 1071 viewscontroversial_jack

It's like the scenes in Baghdad of locals pulling down Saddam's statue was staged.
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