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Changing British Social Attitudes 08:58 - Sep 3 with 6382 viewsAnotherJohn

In 2013 86 per cent of people said they were proud of Britain’s history, but this has now fallen to 64 per cent.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13806325/Pride-Britains-history-plummet

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/uknews/fewer-brits-have-pride-in-country-s-past-d


Is this a case of demography being destiny?
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 19:32 - Sep 4 with 1003 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 16:38 - Sep 4 by controversial_jack

Not a patch on what we did in the colonies. The Ivans are amateurs in comparison


Russia was a small European country in the mid 1500s before it began its invasion an colonisation of Siberia , the Pacific coast of Asia as well as it invasion on Poland, 1654 where it captured most of what is modern day Ukraine.

It has also colonised various Baltic states and well as many southern Asia muslin States. The Russian empire became the World's third largest empire and still occupies most of the land it conquered.

The Ivans killed millions of people during its invasion as well as millions of Russians during its civil war in 1917. Following Russian dictators like Stalin and Putin killed millions of Russian citizens, stopped free speech. It also has a rigged judicial systems.

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:24 - Sep 5 with 905 viewscontroversial_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 19:32 - Sep 4 by felixstowe_jack

Russia was a small European country in the mid 1500s before it began its invasion an colonisation of Siberia , the Pacific coast of Asia as well as it invasion on Poland, 1654 where it captured most of what is modern day Ukraine.

It has also colonised various Baltic states and well as many southern Asia muslin States. The Russian empire became the World's third largest empire and still occupies most of the land it conquered.

The Ivans killed millions of people during its invasion as well as millions of Russians during its civil war in 1917. Following Russian dictators like Stalin and Putin killed millions of Russian citizens, stopped free speech. It also has a rigged judicial systems.


Nope. Free speech and elections are allowed in Russia, they aren't in the Ukraine.

One year Russia arrested 400 for social media comments, Britain arrested 3,300 , with half the population. Let that sink in, if that's possible
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:02 - Sep 5 with 899 viewsraynor94

Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:24 - Sep 5 by controversial_jack

Nope. Free speech and elections are allowed in Russia, they aren't in the Ukraine.

One year Russia arrested 400 for social media comments, Britain arrested 3,300 , with half the population. Let that sink in, if that's possible


I would imagine the thought of spending years in a gulag, puts off many ordinary Russians from posting their thoughts on social media

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:17 - Sep 5 with 888 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:24 - Sep 5 by controversial_jack

Nope. Free speech and elections are allowed in Russia, they aren't in the Ukraine.

One year Russia arrested 400 for social media comments, Britain arrested 3,300 , with half the population. Let that sink in, if that's possible


Any critism of putin or Russia results in arrest and imprisonment after a show trial.
A ballerina was arrested an imprisoned on a recent visit to Russia. Her crime she donated £20 to a charity providing medical supplies to Ukraine

FREE SPEECH IS NOT ALLOWED IN RUSSIA UNLESS IT SUPPORTS PUTIN AND HIS WAR CRIMES.

NEWSPAPERS AND TV STATIONS WHICH CRITICISE PUTIN ARE CLOSED DOWN.

THERE ARE NO DEMOCRATIC AND FREE ELECTIONS IN RUSSIA. ALL OPPOSITION IS SUPPRESSED.

OVER 1000 POLITICAL PRISONERS IN RUSSIA.

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:46 - Sep 5 with 853 viewscontroversial_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:17 - Sep 5 by felixstowe_jack

Any critism of putin or Russia results in arrest and imprisonment after a show trial.
A ballerina was arrested an imprisoned on a recent visit to Russia. Her crime she donated £20 to a charity providing medical supplies to Ukraine

FREE SPEECH IS NOT ALLOWED IN RUSSIA UNLESS IT SUPPORTS PUTIN AND HIS WAR CRIMES.

NEWSPAPERS AND TV STATIONS WHICH CRITICISE PUTIN ARE CLOSED DOWN.

THERE ARE NO DEMOCRATIC AND FREE ELECTIONS IN RUSSIA. ALL OPPOSITION IS SUPPRESSED.

OVER 1000 POLITICAL PRISONERS IN RUSSIA.


Once again for those mentally challenged. Russia has 48 opposition parties. They have election with greater turnouts than we do

The UK arrested far more than Russia did for social media comments. They have more rights than we do
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:55 - Sep 5 with 849 viewsonehunglow

Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:46 - Sep 5 by controversial_jack

Once again for those mentally challenged. Russia has 48 opposition parties. They have election with greater turnouts than we do

The UK arrested far more than Russia did for social media comments. They have more rights than we do


48 and not one of them with a hope of beating Putin.
He makes sure of that

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 10:00 - Sep 5 with 851 viewsWhiterockin

Possibly some should read this and think seriously before they post.

https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/russian-disinformation-tackled-by-new-websi
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 11:25 - Sep 5 with 803 viewscontroversial_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:55 - Sep 5 by onehunglow

48 and not one of them with a hope of beating Putin.
He makes sure of that


How does he do that? Guards are standing over every one of the 90 million who cast their votes to see who they vote for?

If 80% voted for Vlad, why did 20% vote against him if it is not permited?
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 18:58 - Sep 5 with 698 viewsAnotherJohn

Changing British Social Attitudes on 10:00 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin

Possibly some should read this and think seriously before they post.

https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/russian-disinformation-tackled-by-new-websi


Interestingly, the law will cover "discredits our democratic intuitions". One or two who post here could well be in the frame for that.
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 19:14 - Sep 5 with 660 viewscontroversial_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 18:58 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn

Interestingly, the law will cover "discredits our democratic intuitions". One or two who post here could well be in the frame for that.


Where's the poster that claimed Russia had censorship, how ironic

It's best not to post anything and let them see for themselves. Them an i told you so
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 19:22 - Sep 5 with 652 viewsAnotherJohn

Changing British Social Attitudes on 19:14 - Sep 5 by controversial_jack

Where's the poster that claimed Russia had censorship, how ironic

It's best not to post anything and let them see for themselves. Them an i told you so


The operative word is "our". If Russia had a similar law you might be in business, rather than standing on the trap door.
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 20:31 - Sep 5 with 632 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Changing British Social Attitudes on 18:58 - Sep 5 by AnotherJohn

Interestingly, the law will cover "discredits our democratic intuitions". One or two who post here could well be in the frame for that.


Surely it’s a democratic right to be able to criticise our democratic institutions, the useless bunch of bastards.

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 20:52 - Sep 5 with 620 viewsWhiterockin

Changing British Social Attitudes on 20:31 - Sep 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Surely it’s a democratic right to be able to criticise our democratic institutions, the useless bunch of bastards.


I don't think criticism is the issue, spreading complete BS and passing it off as if it is a fact is.
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 21:04 - Sep 5 with 586 viewsFlashberryjack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 20:52 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin

I don't think criticism is the issue, spreading complete BS and passing it off as if it is a fact is.


Politicians have been doing that for years.

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 21:07 - Sep 5 with 563 viewsWhiterockin

Changing British Social Attitudes on 21:04 - Sep 5 by Flashberryjack

Politicians have been doing that for years.


If the public did what politicians did they would be jailed, particularly corruption and fraud.
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 21:21 - Sep 5 with 538 viewsDJack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:24 - Sep 5 by controversial_jack

Nope. Free speech and elections are allowed in Russia, they aren't in the Ukraine.

One year Russia arrested 400 for social media comments, Britain arrested 3,300 , with half the population. Let that sink in, if that's possible



Propaganda man is at it again.



Ukraine scores 49/100
Russia 13/100

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices#Human_Freedom_Index

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 21:56 - Sep 5 with 505 viewsSullutaCreturned

Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:55 - Sep 5 by onehunglow

48 and not one of them with a hope of beating Putin.
He makes sure of that


48 and 42 of them are not represented in the Duma,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Russia

In there it also says that at least 8 of the parties were formed specifically to support Putin and any politicians that stood against dear old Vlad was either locked up, banned from standing, exiled or met a suspicious death.

This is the freedom of speech that Contro boasts about, exercise this "right" and end up in prison for 12 years, all she did was donate to a charity,

https://www.newsweek.com/ksenia-karelina-us-russia-ballet-dancer-jailed-1939800
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 23:29 - Sep 5 with 439 viewscontroversial_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 21:56 - Sep 5 by SullutaCreturned

48 and 42 of them are not represented in the Duma,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Russia

In there it also says that at least 8 of the parties were formed specifically to support Putin and any politicians that stood against dear old Vlad was either locked up, banned from standing, exiled or met a suspicious death.

This is the freedom of speech that Contro boasts about, exercise this "right" and end up in prison for 12 years, all she did was donate to a charity,

https://www.newsweek.com/ksenia-karelina-us-russia-ballet-dancer-jailed-1939800


As i stated, just wait and see. Then i will be back with the, " i told you so."
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 23:39 - Sep 5 with 441 viewsDJack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 23:29 - Sep 5 by controversial_jack

As i stated, just wait and see. Then i will be back with the, " i told you so."


...and you've totally avoided my highlighting if your lies.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 23:53 - Sep 5 with 427 viewscontroversial_jack

Couldn't resist this

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/25/uk-placed-in-third-tier-in-glob
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 00:47 - Sep 6 with 427 viewsDJack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 23:53 - Sep 5 by controversial_jack

Couldn't resist this

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/25/uk-placed-in-third-tier-in-glob


Britain scored 91/100

Russia 13/100

But you resisted that.

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:14 - Sep 6 with 358 viewscontroversial_jack

Changing British Social Attitudes on 00:47 - Sep 6 by DJack

Britain scored 91/100

Russia 13/100

But you resisted that.


Zelensky's democracy

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sure-doesnt-look-like-democracy-anymore-opinion
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Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:39 - Sep 6 with 347 viewsonehunglow

Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:14 - Sep 6 by controversial_jack

Zelensky's democracy

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sure-doesnt-look-like-democracy-anymore-opinion


Yeah ,so he’s to blame .

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:52 - Sep 6 with 343 viewsSullutaCreturned

Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:14 - Sep 6 by controversial_jack

Zelensky's democracy

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sure-doesnt-look-like-democracy-anymore-opinion


Ok then, if a demcracy doesn't ban political parties then Russia, by your own thoughts, isn't a democracy because they have banned 29 and 26 of those since Putin became President.

These Americans whose opinion I assume you agree with, do they even realise the USA banned the communist party back in 1954 and other parties were refused legitimacy because their stated aim was to take down the government and as such they couldn't swear allegiance to the constitution so they were never allowed to exist, what a crime eh.

Ot is also a fact that countries cancel elections during times of war, in the UK there were elections due in 1916 and 1940 but they were delayed because of the world wars. Ukraine is currently the subject of an illegal invasion by Russia and cannot be expected to try and hold an open, free and fair election at this time, but you know that.

In that article they aso say a democracy doesn't censor the media but the USA...

In 2014, the United States was added to Reporters Without Borders (RWB)'s list of "Enemies of the Internet", a group of countries with the highest level of Internet censorship and surveillance. RWB stated that the US had "undermined confidence in the Internet and its own standards of security" and that "US surveillance practices and decryption activities are a direct threat to investigative journalists, especially those who work with sensitive sources for whom confidentiality is paramount and who are already under pressure".

And then Russia 2 years ago,

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/04/world/europe/russia-censorship-media-crackdow

and last year,

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/26/technology/russia-censorship-ukraine-war.html

In Ukraine they have banned 28 parties but only 18 of them since Zelensky became President and ALL of them since the illegal Russian invasion with 15 of them having a Russophile ideology.

Old Vlad and Russia don't come out of that very well, do they?

Don't tell me, it's all fake news

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Changing British Social Attitudes on 09:02 - Sep 6 with 339 viewsBoundy

Changing British Social Attitudes on 08:14 - Sep 6 by controversial_jack

Zelensky's democracy

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sure-doesnt-look-like-democracy-anymore-opinion


You must have missed the fact that Ukriane is at war , sometimes marital war is imposed or parts of a democracy reduced, all for the greater good.

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