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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? 19:29 - Aug 3 with 7738 viewsKeithHaynes

Plenty (thousands) of patriots there this weekend, spin off concerts right wing against the Rebellion punk festival which pulls in many thousands as well. Going to be a hot night. Winter Gardens has closed its doors to protect staff and guests.







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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 12:21 - Aug 5 with 1510 viewsRobbie

Seems The Goverment are now blaming social media for the riots .

Agree social media can be a toxic , but law and order can or should be contolled by them .

Sad to say Westminster is looking for excuses over their failings over the years to control immigration , Police chiefs reading out statements prepared and carefully worded by solicitors as to not offend anyone , that is nice of them .

Has anybody in power got the nerve to say it as it is , doubt it .

Regarding Swansea City Centre a place I now avoid whenever possible ,
Mcdonalds to that Cash Generator Shop is a walk through Zombieland .

The honest shop workers , how do you do it .
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 12:28 - Aug 5 with 1504 viewsAnotherJohn

My take on the Swansea situation (which could be wrong) is that we have a pretty steady flow of arrivals as a "sanctuary city", but that most move on, especially the young single men. It may be that chances for asylum seekers to work in the black economy are more limited here, and that even after refugee status is granted the better opportunities for work are elsewhere. The manager of a couple of franchise fast food outlets (himself of middle eastern background) told me that in his experience refugees are keen to begin with, but then move on to other things. My son, who knows more about these things than I do, suggests that there are quite a few Albanians engaged in dodgy activities, but that is just second hand. Judging from the customers at the Sunday High Street car boot sale, of whom many are migrants, there are more families than there have been at some times in the past, when large groups of young men were in evidence. The city has changed though with quite large settled immigrant populations in the Sandfields, the St Helen's Road area and Hafod/Landore in particular.
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 23:02 - Aug 5 with 1352 viewsAnotherJohn

Worryingly, it seems that ethnic minorities are being drawn into the trouble.

https://news.sky.com/video/sky-news-van-attacked-by-knife-wielding-man-in-birmin

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/protesters-in-birmingham-surround-tv-repor

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly883p5yj8o
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 01:09 - Aug 6 with 1305 viewsRobbie

Normally catch up late night tele news on The Beeb , tonight watched ITV news .
Cannot be doing with all the ad. breaks , but their main presenter and reporters were good .

Not any broadcasters issue but was not impressed by Stamers speech earlier , his voice to me seemed to tremble on occasions whilst talking at the rostrum .

Appreciate your up the creek without a paddle, partly not your fault of course .
Your problem is now showing strong leadership in this sandstorm we are in .

His first few weeks at the helm fills me with no confidence of making the UK strong again ,
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:10 - Aug 6 with 1214 viewsonehunglow

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 01:09 - Aug 6 by Robbie

Normally catch up late night tele news on The Beeb , tonight watched ITV news .
Cannot be doing with all the ad. breaks , but their main presenter and reporters were good .

Not any broadcasters issue but was not impressed by Stamers speech earlier , his voice to me seemed to tremble on occasions whilst talking at the rostrum .

Appreciate your up the creek without a paddle, partly not your fault of course .
Your problem is now showing strong leadership in this sandstorm we are in .

His first few weeks at the helm fills me with no confidence of making the UK strong again ,


He’s clearly terrified
Look into his eyes
He was voted in
Who’s his deputy’s?
think
It’s why “posh” wealthy or other epithets are irrelevant when it comes to leadership.
We have zero
We’ve also a broken police service and society
Full force of the law my backside

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:42 - Aug 6 with 1182 viewsWhiterockin

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:10 - Aug 6 by onehunglow

He’s clearly terrified
Look into his eyes
He was voted in
Who’s his deputy’s?
think
It’s why “posh” wealthy or other epithets are irrelevant when it comes to leadership.
We have zero
We’ve also a broken police service and society
Full force of the law my backside


Anyone can be leader of the opposition, but to be a good PM you need courage and determination, Starmer has neither.
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:47 - Aug 6 with 1163 viewsonehunglow

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:42 - Aug 6 by Whiterockin

Anyone can be leader of the opposition, but to be a good PM you need courage and determination, Starmer has neither.


Morning whitey.
Talking to my son in law yesterday .
He has had his shifts radically increased for these troubles
The feeling in the rank and file is that longer / tougher sentences won’t work as we have gone too far down the road now.
There is no deterrent . Sentences will be shorter anyway . Starmer has legislated this .
Police officers are not inclined to do anything that could see them lose their jobs ,which means they won’t go the extra mile to protect the oublic @nd property .
This has been coming from the time May slashed the police asunder although the seeds were sown already
This is what we have created and we haven’t got a clue what to do . Blockbuster !

Run for the hills

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:52 - Aug 6 with 1153 viewsmangohilljack

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:47 - Aug 6 by onehunglow

Morning whitey.
Talking to my son in law yesterday .
He has had his shifts radically increased for these troubles
The feeling in the rank and file is that longer / tougher sentences won’t work as we have gone too far down the road now.
There is no deterrent . Sentences will be shorter anyway . Starmer has legislated this .
Police officers are not inclined to do anything that could see them lose their jobs ,which means they won’t go the extra mile to protect the oublic @nd property .
This has been coming from the time May slashed the police asunder although the seeds were sown already
This is what we have created and we haven’t got a clue what to do . Blockbuster !

Run for the hills


What are his thoughts as a serving police officer on the two tier policing system we now have in the UK of which cannot be denied now.
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:23 - Aug 6 with 1117 viewscontroversial_jack

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:42 - Aug 6 by Whiterockin

Anyone can be leader of the opposition, but to be a good PM you need courage and determination, Starmer has neither.


I disagree. He's come out strongly against these rioting thugs and terrorists
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:37 - Aug 6 with 1105 viewsonehunglow

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 08:52 - Aug 6 by mangohilljack

What are his thoughts as a serving police officer on the two tier policing system we now have in the UK of which cannot be denied now.


We don’t
This is proposed by Yvette
Where exactly are these bobbies ?
In a box just waiting to be released .
It’s shite
We had PSU that were trained for public order situation . We don’t now.
We have police chiefs afraid to show force and craven politicians who do not back them

I posed the question what Corbyn would have done . A left wing activist . How would they react to this?

In European countries ,they do have genuine two tiers ,eg Gerdamerie and Guardia Civil who take no crap at all.
We are seeing police officers including 5 - 3 females actually retreating ..
Criminals ,rioters know the full force of the law is piffle. The jails are “ full” and prisoners released early as a result .

We have totally lost our way

The answer… deployment of water cannons ( blocked by Johnson) and tear gas .
No chance of that though ….

Realistically ,real PSU tactics utilising protective vehicles ,horses and dogs ,in other words …force ..
Them or us .. it’s that simple

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 15:58 - Aug 6 with 1018 viewsGwyn737

Caught up with a few of the videos from Blackpool.

Punks really don’t like the far right, do they 👏
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 16:06 - Aug 6 with 1005 viewsKeithHaynes

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 15:58 - Aug 6 by Gwyn737

Caught up with a few of the videos from Blackpool.

Punks really don’t like the far right, do they 👏


Gave them a good ole’ slapping, there’s one video of seven fending about 150 off. And my mate Kev, a big Cardiff fan fronting five of them. Plenty more.

The patriots ? Calling them weekend punks, they haven’t got a clue. Met their match and didn’t like it. Any confrontation between the suggested ‘far right’ with these newly formed Muslim gangs will see them battered as well.

Winter Gardens were grateful.





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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 18:08 - Aug 6 with 912 viewsunion_jack

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 16:06 - Aug 6 by KeithHaynes

Gave them a good ole’ slapping, there’s one video of seven fending about 150 off. And my mate Kev, a big Cardiff fan fronting five of them. Plenty more.

The patriots ? Calling them weekend punks, they haven’t got a clue. Met their match and didn’t like it. Any confrontation between the suggested ‘far right’ with these newly formed Muslim gangs will see them battered as well.

Winter Gardens were grateful.





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Just wait until Anus gets hold of that story😂

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 18:33 - Aug 6 with 891 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 09:23 - Aug 6 by controversial_jack

I disagree. He's come out strongly against these rioting thugs and terrorists


As a lawyer he's set up a lot of rules, as you might expect. But these seem to include that everyone will get caught and people will be held on remand.
Anyone can film and submit evidence and the media are joining in. His zero tolerance approach will mean all and sundry will he holding him to account with all sorts of evidence, there's a risk of him being swamped.

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:06 - Aug 6 with 837 viewsBoundy

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 16:06 - Aug 6 by KeithHaynes

Gave them a good ole’ slapping, there’s one video of seven fending about 150 off. And my mate Kev, a big Cardiff fan fronting five of them. Plenty more.

The patriots ? Calling them weekend punks, they haven’t got a clue. Met their match and didn’t like it. Any confrontation between the suggested ‘far right’ with these newly formed Muslim gangs will see them battered as well.

Winter Gardens were grateful.





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And hearin lies the problem labelling anyone caught up in the rioting far right is on dodgy ground ,how far right is far right and how is it measured. What are we to call the roaming asian gangs attacking white people, are they far right or left ,who knows .I belive it is being instigated by extremists on both sides and the so called foot soldiers are just bumming their way through life looking for a thrill,to look big and hard amongst their peers, well that isn't going to do them any good when the sentences are being handed down.

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:35 - Aug 6 with 805 viewsKeithHaynes

Douglas Murray


Can’t find a decent opposite view to those of Murray. If anyone finds one, put it on here. However, this is the time for adult debate. Or this thread will sadly have to be closed as well.

These people are iffy.


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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:57 - Aug 6 with 783 viewsWingstandwood

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:35 - Aug 6 by KeithHaynes

Douglas Murray


Can’t find a decent opposite view to those of Murray. If anyone finds one, put it on here. However, this is the time for adult debate. Or this thread will sadly have to be closed as well.

These people are iffy.


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Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson to me are absolutely supberb. Have they ever lost an argument? Have they ever been "out thought"? Have they ever been lost for words? It's "checkmate" time and time again with both.

They have ‘charismatic-common-sense’ in abundance, whilst being streetwise, quick-witted, perceptive and 'switched on' to the max!!!! The world is blessed to have certain people!

Compare both with forever offended WOKE loons, luvvies, “right on” virtue signaling champagne socialists and the modern day press and media that by vast percentage live in a cloud-cuckoo-land paralllel universe that absolutely beggars belief.
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Argus!

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:20 - Aug 6 with 715 viewsonehunglow

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 18:33 - Aug 6 by JACKMANANDBOY

As a lawyer he's set up a lot of rules, as you might expect. But these seem to include that everyone will get caught and people will be held on remand.
Anyone can film and submit evidence and the media are joining in. His zero tolerance approach will mean all and sundry will he holding him to account with all sorts of evidence, there's a risk of him being swamped.


Laws are passed by lawyers ,defended by lawyers and judgement passed by lawyers.

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:23 - Aug 6 with 712 viewsBoundy

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 19:57 - Aug 6 by Wingstandwood

Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson to me are absolutely supberb. Have they ever lost an argument? Have they ever been "out thought"? Have they ever been lost for words? It's "checkmate" time and time again with both.

They have ‘charismatic-common-sense’ in abundance, whilst being streetwise, quick-witted, perceptive and 'switched on' to the max!!!! The world is blessed to have certain people!

Compare both with forever offended WOKE loons, luvvies, “right on” virtue signaling champagne socialists and the modern day press and media that by vast percentage live in a cloud-cuckoo-land paralllel universe that absolutely beggars belief.
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My favourite two along with the Hitchen's brothers, nobody can come close to winning a debate on any subject you care to choose.I would throughly recommend searching YouTube for any of the individuals named and see if you disagree.

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:40 - Aug 6 with 685 viewsWingstandwood

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:23 - Aug 6 by Boundy

My favourite two along with the Hitchen's brothers, nobody can come close to winning a debate on any subject you care to choose.I would throughly recommend searching YouTube for any of the individuals named and see if you disagree.


They could all show up "on site" despite having no prior experience, or required qualifications whatsover but still end up overrulling the senior site engineer!

Argus!

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:44 - Aug 6 with 675 viewsonehunglow

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:40 - Aug 6 by Wingstandwood

They could all show up "on site" despite having no prior experience, or required qualifications whatsover but still end up overrulling the senior site engineer!


It is fashionable to hammer the “ right” .Its why the BBC never fails to mention this .
The left get far less stick and are just as bad .
We are very divided as @ country
It is impossible to discuss politics. So why do we ?
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 23:29 - Aug 6 with 557 viewsKeithHaynes

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 20:44 - Aug 6 by onehunglow

It is fashionable to hammer the “ right” .Its why the BBC never fails to mention this .
The left get far less stick and are just as bad .
We are very divided as @ country
It is impossible to discuss politics. So why do we ?
A Tory


The BBC have an agenda, the headlines last night about that Yaxley bloke were hilarious. My betting is he will live comfortably on the money he gets from a lawsuit for the rest of his life.

I’ve no care either way, but the very fact they chose to say and do what they did, and there was one comment that he was organising the riots from a hotel in Cyprus will most certainly cost the BBC.

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 01:30 - Aug 7 with 503 viewsRobbie

Reporting earlier suggesting The Police cannot respond to genuine 999 calls at this time .
Not enough plod to cover all serious incidents as in the situation we are in now .

Of course the view from an alleged balanced source was its all under control , so ok then .

In the current climate of chaos and anarchy on UK streets , seems in my experince daily of the spate of shoplifting this crime cannot be looked into or investigated , no resoures .

During this debate suggestions of sending in the to Army in to quiten things down .
Not thier job to enfocre law and order otherwise we become a military reliant Country.

There is a simple answer Stamer to stop this chaos , get the balls to stop the small boats influx , whatever actions are needed do it , all predecessors have failed dismally .

Make the right call mush I might vote for your Party again , not holding my breath though .
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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 07:51 - Aug 7 with 413 viewsonehunglow

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 01:30 - Aug 7 by Robbie

Reporting earlier suggesting The Police cannot respond to genuine 999 calls at this time .
Not enough plod to cover all serious incidents as in the situation we are in now .

Of course the view from an alleged balanced source was its all under control , so ok then .

In the current climate of chaos and anarchy on UK streets , seems in my experince daily of the spate of shoplifting this crime cannot be looked into or investigated , no resoures .

During this debate suggestions of sending in the to Army in to quiten things down .
Not thier job to enfocre law and order otherwise we become a military reliant Country.

There is a simple answer Stamer to stop this chaos , get the balls to stop the small boats influx , whatever actions are needed do it , all predecessors have failed dismally .

Make the right call mush I might vote for your Party again , not holding my breath though .
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It’s not “ under control”
It’s hope ,no more than that

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🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 07:54 - Aug 7 with 416 viewsmangohilljack

🔥Blackpool hotting up Is this really civil war ? on 01:30 - Aug 7 by Robbie

Reporting earlier suggesting The Police cannot respond to genuine 999 calls at this time .
Not enough plod to cover all serious incidents as in the situation we are in now .

Of course the view from an alleged balanced source was its all under control , so ok then .

In the current climate of chaos and anarchy on UK streets , seems in my experince daily of the spate of shoplifting this crime cannot be looked into or investigated , no resoures .

During this debate suggestions of sending in the to Army in to quiten things down .
Not thier job to enfocre law and order otherwise we become a military reliant Country.

There is a simple answer Stamer to stop this chaos , get the balls to stop the small boats influx , whatever actions are needed do it , all predecessors have failed dismally .

Make the right call mush I might vote for your Party again , not holding my breath though .
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If those concerned citizens (now labeled far right,EDL blah blah blah) and those Muslim gangs ( labels not fit for this forum) understood exactly what was going on we could resolve this issue within a day.

People seriously need to ignore the media/government and do their own root cause analysis. The results will shock you but, it's the root cause you need to address NOT the symptoms (christian/muslim)

When you think about it the government have known about illegal immigration for many years, not once have they tried to address the issue (lots of talk yes but no substance) ....Now did they really want to address it? or was it all part of the plan? sounds extreme but just pause and think about it. We know it could be stopped very easily within days.

As a result of illegal immigration there have been claims of rape/murder and many other crimes (now I know all races and colours are capable of crime but the media focus on particular ones more than others) all which could be stopped within days (if it was football lads their doors would have been demolished before breakfast) but the government instead chooses to brush it all under the carpet and try to censor, demonise and target anybody who tries to bring attention to these issues.

We know something could be done to address these issues but they blatantly refuse and won't, which leads to the conclusion that they actually want it to happen.

Look at the bigger picture, think about the last few years and start joining up the dots instead of listening to the media who are owned by the same criminals who are trying to push their agendas.

It's time to stop the violence, unite as people and turn all attention to a corrupt and criminal government who have been screwing the arse off us for many years
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