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London 07:18 - Jun 12 with 9176 viewsPatfromPoole

Could be lively this weekend.

Looks like a few football lads will he going up to defend Churchill’s statue with more BLM protests planned.

Should be a sunny weekend, this may not end well at all.....

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London on 07:20 - Jun 12 with 3359 viewsthissceptredsaint

Why would football fans be travelling to defend a statue?
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London on 07:28 - Jun 12 with 3344 viewssaint22

London on 07:20 - Jun 12 by thissceptredsaint

Why would football fans be travelling to defend a statue?


I think that’s pretty obvious
The nationalism and patriotism in this country masquerading as something else maybe??
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London on 08:13 - Jun 12 with 3301 viewsRon11

London on 07:28 - Jun 12 by saint22

I think that’s pretty obvious
The nationalism and patriotism in this country masquerading as something else maybe??


Like what?
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London on 08:20 - Jun 12 with 3284 viewsWints76

The Football Lads Against Fascism have also mentioned countering the Football Lads Alliance thing as well

I wonder if like the other week, the 5-0 will be stopping people at train stations as trains should not be used for leisure purposes at the moment
[Post edited 12 Jun 2020 8:24]
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London on 08:23 - Jun 12 with 3271 viewsHeisenberg

London on 08:13 - Jun 12 by Ron11

Like what?


Fear. Ignorance. Stupidity ? Take your pick.

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London on 08:28 - Jun 12 with 3259 viewsRon11

London on 08:23 - Jun 12 by Heisenberg

Fear. Ignorance. Stupidity ? Take your pick.


So to defend a statue from left wing anarchy springs from ignorance and fear and is stupid?
Sounds like a communist diktat to me.
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London on 08:33 - Jun 12 with 3246 viewssolent_toffee

London on 08:20 - Jun 12 by Wints76

The Football Lads Against Fascism have also mentioned countering the Football Lads Alliance thing as well

I wonder if like the other week, the 5-0 will be stopping people at train stations as trains should not be used for leisure purposes at the moment
[Post edited 12 Jun 2020 8:24]


That’ll be a quiet night in at the library. Not. I don’t think.
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London on 08:35 - Jun 12 with 3241 viewssaint22

London on 08:28 - Jun 12 by Ron11

So to defend a statue from left wing anarchy springs from ignorance and fear and is stupid?
Sounds like a communist diktat to me.


Sounds like fascist propaganda to me
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London on 09:01 - Jun 12 with 3196 viewsBoris_

London on 08:20 - Jun 12 by Wints76

The Football Lads Against Fascism have also mentioned countering the Football Lads Alliance thing as well

I wonder if like the other week, the 5-0 will be stopping people at train stations as trains should not be used for leisure purposes at the moment
[Post edited 12 Jun 2020 8:24]


Please tell me that there's not a 'Football Lads Against Facism' movement?

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London on 09:03 - Jun 12 with 3196 viewsWints76

London on 09:01 - Jun 12 by Boris_

Please tell me that there's not a 'Football Lads Against Facism' movement?


Yeh, there is. Think they are a bit more light hearted than the Football Lads Alliance one. Each to their own.
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London on 09:03 - Jun 12 with 3196 viewsRednWight

London on 09:01 - Jun 12 by Boris_

Please tell me that there's not a 'Football Lads Against Facism' movement?


Sounds like a load of FLAF to me

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London on 09:06 - Jun 12 with 3188 viewsGennaro_Contaldo

London on 09:01 - Jun 12 by Boris_

Please tell me that there's not a 'Football Lads Against Facism' movement?


I did laugh out loud at that too, load of guff

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London on 09:15 - Jun 12 with 3172 viewsRon11

London on 08:35 - Jun 12 by saint22

Sounds like fascist propaganda to me


How is that 'fascist'?
You're giving yourself away as a hardline marxist agitator with an agenda to destroy everything this country has ever been about.
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London on 09:17 - Jun 12 with 3167 viewsbattler

London on 09:15 - Jun 12 by Ron11

How is that 'fascist'?
You're giving yourself away as a hardline marxist agitator with an agenda to destroy everything this country has ever been about.


You dont get it, you right wing nazi....
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London on 09:17 - Jun 12 with 3166 viewsWints76

London on 09:06 - Jun 12 by Gennaro_Contaldo

I did laugh out loud at that too, load of guff


Isn't it all? Those FLA pictures with a bloke dressed head to toe in Stone Island paying his respects on Poppy Day. Even those half poppy/half football emblem badges that are sold.

But London may be horrible tomorrow regardless
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London on 09:23 - Jun 12 with 3157 viewsBoris_

London on 09:17 - Jun 12 by Wints76

Isn't it all? Those FLA pictures with a bloke dressed head to toe in Stone Island paying his respects on Poppy Day. Even those half poppy/half football emblem badges that are sold.

But London may be horrible tomorrow regardless


To be fair, the white extreme left need to be brought down a peg or two and shown up for hijacking the BLM protests for their own unrelated political agenda.

I'd like to see some of those greasy students try and climb on Churchill this weekend.

There's already a rumbling that the Palmerston Statue in Romsey is on the 'list' of statues for the lunatic left to try and get removed. Would like to see them try.

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London on 09:35 - Jun 12 with 3145 viewsGennaro_Contaldo

London on 09:17 - Jun 12 by Wints76

Isn't it all? Those FLA pictures with a bloke dressed head to toe in Stone Island paying his respects on Poppy Day. Even those half poppy/half football emblem badges that are sold.

But London may be horrible tomorrow regardless


Exactly - that's why I laughed!

All these little groups of people "lads against transphobia", "lads against mooslims", "lads against Tories", "lads against the lefties", "lads against the BBC", "football lads against HS2"

Just makes me chuckle. I'm starting my own if you want to join? "Lads who are quite moderate and easy going but laugh at the other groups, alliance"

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London on 09:39 - Jun 12 with 3139 viewsWints76

Yep, there are undoubtedly people there just to cause trouble, and people there to provoke the far right in to responding by doing things like destroying statues. It is all wrong and not the way to protest (though when people are mocked for peaceful protests, then it does open this sort of thing up). I fear there are lots of places at boiling point at the moment, and people on the extremes of both sides of the spectrum that are awaiting their chance.

Also, as one of the liberal do gooders, I vote left because I want people to be given every chance and society to help one another with good public services etc. The current trend of ripping down statues and censoring our past for minimal reasons is counter productive to what I want. In my opinion.
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London on 09:43 - Jun 12 with 3132 viewsWints76

London on 09:35 - Jun 12 by Gennaro_Contaldo

Exactly - that's why I laughed!

All these little groups of people "lads against transphobia", "lads against mooslims", "lads against Tories", "lads against the lefties", "lads against the BBC", "football lads against HS2"

Just makes me chuckle. I'm starting my own if you want to join? "Lads who are quite moderate and easy going but laugh at the other groups, alliance"


I'm in. Democratic vote for leader. Need more than 52% of the vote though.
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London on 10:08 - Jun 12 with 3095 viewsRon11

London on 09:17 - Jun 12 by battler

You dont get it, you right wing nazi....


Nowhere near a nazi, I have always voted Labour until Corbyn took over and that I'm not going to vote for.
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London on 10:29 - Jun 12 with 3072 viewssolent_toffee

London on 09:39 - Jun 12 by Wints76

Yep, there are undoubtedly people there just to cause trouble, and people there to provoke the far right in to responding by doing things like destroying statues. It is all wrong and not the way to protest (though when people are mocked for peaceful protests, then it does open this sort of thing up). I fear there are lots of places at boiling point at the moment, and people on the extremes of both sides of the spectrum that are awaiting their chance.

Also, as one of the liberal do gooders, I vote left because I want people to be given every chance and society to help one another with good public services etc. The current trend of ripping down statues and censoring our past for minimal reasons is counter productive to what I want. In my opinion.


Totally agree.

I listened to five live a few days ago and there was a guest on who wanted to see all statues, street names etc relating to Queen Victoria taken down and changed. This was along with a whole host of tv programmes and films, that it became clear when being challenged by a counter argument guest, that she’d never heard of until a few hours beforehand, but was now completely outraged and offended by. It’s become an unbelievably dangerous parody.

I lived and worked in Warrington for years. For reasons that escape me the town is linked to Oliver Cromwell and there are lots of street names and statues named after him. I was raised a Catholic so on paper/history, Cromwell could have been seen as someone who could Catholic’s could take offence by, but it would be madness to even think about taking the statue etc. It’s history, it happened, we are where we are and thats that, learn from it and move forward. Airbrushing history is a very dangerous precedent.
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London on 10:46 - Jun 12 with 3057 viewsbattler

London on 10:29 - Jun 12 by solent_toffee

Totally agree.

I listened to five live a few days ago and there was a guest on who wanted to see all statues, street names etc relating to Queen Victoria taken down and changed. This was along with a whole host of tv programmes and films, that it became clear when being challenged by a counter argument guest, that she’d never heard of until a few hours beforehand, but was now completely outraged and offended by. It’s become an unbelievably dangerous parody.

I lived and worked in Warrington for years. For reasons that escape me the town is linked to Oliver Cromwell and there are lots of street names and statues named after him. I was raised a Catholic so on paper/history, Cromwell could have been seen as someone who could Catholic’s could take offence by, but it would be madness to even think about taking the statue etc. It’s history, it happened, we are where we are and thats that, learn from it and move forward. Airbrushing history is a very dangerous precedent.


You want to be careful with that kind of statement ST, almost sounds like common sense thinking.
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London on 10:57 - Jun 12 with 3030 viewsGennaro_Contaldo

London on 09:39 - Jun 12 by Wints76

Yep, there are undoubtedly people there just to cause trouble, and people there to provoke the far right in to responding by doing things like destroying statues. It is all wrong and not the way to protest (though when people are mocked for peaceful protests, then it does open this sort of thing up). I fear there are lots of places at boiling point at the moment, and people on the extremes of both sides of the spectrum that are awaiting their chance.

Also, as one of the liberal do gooders, I vote left because I want people to be given every chance and society to help one another with good public services etc. The current trend of ripping down statues and censoring our past for minimal reasons is counter productive to what I want. In my opinion.


Absolutely this!

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London on 11:05 - Jun 12 with 3011 viewsSadoldgit

London on 09:39 - Jun 12 by Wints76

Yep, there are undoubtedly people there just to cause trouble, and people there to provoke the far right in to responding by doing things like destroying statues. It is all wrong and not the way to protest (though when people are mocked for peaceful protests, then it does open this sort of thing up). I fear there are lots of places at boiling point at the moment, and people on the extremes of both sides of the spectrum that are awaiting their chance.

Also, as one of the liberal do gooders, I vote left because I want people to be given every chance and society to help one another with good public services etc. The current trend of ripping down statues and censoring our past for minimal reasons is counter productive to what I want. In my opinion.


Totally agree with you although I don’t think it hurts to have a review every now and again. Apparently discussions about Colston had been going on for some time so it is a shame that the statue issue wasn’t dealt with sooner through official channels. The same for many other statue subjects with chequered pasts. I am not for pulling them all down but it is clear that a better context is needed and the wording on several plaques probably needs amending to reflect current sensibilities. It’s a shame that those spoiling for a fight are looking to turn a legitimate issue into a punch up.
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London on 11:08 - Jun 12 with 3002 viewsJaySaint

London on 11:05 - Jun 12 by Sadoldgit

Totally agree with you although I don’t think it hurts to have a review every now and again. Apparently discussions about Colston had been going on for some time so it is a shame that the statue issue wasn’t dealt with sooner through official channels. The same for many other statue subjects with chequered pasts. I am not for pulling them all down but it is clear that a better context is needed and the wording on several plaques probably needs amending to reflect current sensibilities. It’s a shame that those spoiling for a fight are looking to turn a legitimate issue into a punch up.


many are hijacking the BLM movement for their own ends.
Probably the same far-left lunatics that can't accept a Troy Govt (probably not even a Starmer govt). Can't accept Brexit and can't accept they are not getting their own way.

horrible

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