| Do we WANT Premier League football???? 16:13 - Sep 2 with 15442 views | Gammon |
Lots of Swans fans I know are enjoying life in the Champ these days. No stress of going down, matches are better and we dominate games more often than not....
I don't know if I can handle life back in the Prem. Its too stressful and with our owners we come straight back down anyway. |  | | |  |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 20:58 - Sep 2 with 1745 views | RevJames |
The minute we do well, players are sold and managers move on.
It's succession planning and scouting that we need to be better at so that we don't repeat disaster of the final few years in the PL.
Still only September and every team has a dip so not counting chickens just yet... |  | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:01 - Sep 2 with 1733 views | jackrabbit |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 16:35 - Sep 2 by MrSwerve |
Of course we want to be in the PL. FFS. |
Well said. The ultimate rhetorical question. Swans’ Premier League years were the best of times. Bring it back on. |  | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:04 - Sep 2 with 1721 views | Garyjack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 20:58 - Sep 2 by RevJames |
The minute we do well, players are sold and managers move on.
It's succession planning and scouting that we need to be better at so that we don't repeat disaster of the final few years in the PL.
Still only September and every team has a dip so not counting chickens just yet... |
I hope nobody is getting carried away Rev, but no prob with enjoying the moment. |  | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:13 - Sep 2 with 1696 views | jackrmee |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 20:58 - Sep 2 by RevJames |
The minute we do well, players are sold and managers move on.
It's succession planning and scouting that we need to be better at so that we don't repeat disaster of the final few years in the PL.
Still only September and every team has a dip so not counting chickens just yet... |
And that's exactly what Birch and the crew are doing. Succession planning. The off field appointees are some of the shrewdest dealings I have seen as a fan of this club. |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:20 - Sep 2 with 1679 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 17:42 - Sep 2 by Groo |
If we want to keep our Cat 1 academy then absolutely. |
Hi Cameron 👋ðŸ¿,
Other way around pal.
The academy exists to support our first team needs.
The first team don't exist to support a Level 1 academy.
Last stay in the Prem our Academy contributed Roberts for last six games. Thats it. |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:22 - Sep 2 with 1674 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 17:49 - Sep 2 by Glyn1 |
It wouldn't be that profitable though. If you go down and then go straight up again, you lose some of your parachute payments (which is fair enough). |
Would they be needed if we went staight back up to 150 million smackers? |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:30 - Sep 2 with 1648 views | longlostjack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:20 - Sep 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Hi Cameron 👋ðŸ¿,
Other way around pal.
The academy exists to support our first team needs.
The first team don't exist to support a Level 1 academy.
Last stay in the Prem our Academy contributed Roberts for last six games. Thats it. |
I don’t agree with your logic. I’d love to see the Academy loaning out players to other Premier League sides because they couldn’t get into our first team. An Academy full of Harry Wilson level talent not quite good enough for the Swans. I have a dream. |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:37 - Sep 2 with 1626 views | jasper_T |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:20 - Sep 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Hi Cameron 👋ðŸ¿,
Other way around pal.
The academy exists to support our first team needs.
The first team don't exist to support a Level 1 academy.
Last stay in the Prem our Academy contributed Roberts for last six games. Thats it. |
Truth somewhere in the middle imo. As one of the very few big clubs in Wales there is something of a duty to provide the best possible home for the development of Welsh footballers. We're a small country so if we don't do it, who will? The Welsh Prem doesn't have anything like the resources the Football League and PL academy structure can provide. So we ought to be taking advantage of that.
But certainly not to the detriment of the club's financial health. And an expensive category status isn't necessarily the best way to do that, anyway. Not when our development sides have been packed with imports until very recently, and talented local lads have been starved of valuable gametime and released from the club. | | | |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:39 - Sep 2 with 1619 views | phact0rri |
For me, if there really is a "five year plan" I'd hope if we went up early we do so smartly continuing the plan and maybe we can afford an extra player or two. then when we fall back down to championship we will have three new years of parachute payments. |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:40 - Sep 2 with 1606 views | Garyjack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:39 - Sep 2 by phact0rri |
For me, if there really is a "five year plan" I'd hope if we went up early we do so smartly continuing the plan and maybe we can afford an extra player or two. then when we fall back down to championship we will have three new years of parachute payments. |
What 5 year plan? Have i missed something?  | | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:52 - Sep 2 with 1585 views | phact0rri |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:40 - Sep 2 by Garyjack |
What 5 year plan? Have i missed something? |
maybe birch and co tend to mention a "five year plan" quite often. | |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:54 - Sep 2 with 1581 views | jackrmee |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:39 - Sep 2 by phact0rri |
For me, if there really is a "five year plan" I'd hope if we went up early we do so smartly continuing the plan and maybe we can afford an extra player or two. then when we fall back down to championship we will have three new years of parachute payments. |
There's not always a need to fall back down.
Look at Bournemouth. They are a steady prem team now, with the longest serving premier league manager at the helm. That could so easily be us. We are potentially a bigger club than them with more fans, better academy and reach for players and fans alike. | |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:57 - Sep 2 with 1575 views | phact0rri |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:54 - Sep 2 by jackrmee |
There's not always a need to fall back down.
Look at Bournemouth. They are a steady prem team now, with the longest serving premier league manager at the helm. That could so easily be us. We are potentially a bigger club than them with more fans, better academy and reach for players and fans alike. |
you are right, we don't need to fall back down, and maybe we won't. But if we don't break the bank we have less pressure to feel if we do. | |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 22:05 - Sep 2 with 1553 views | jackrmee |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:57 - Sep 2 by phact0rri |
you are right, we don't need to fall back down, and maybe we won't. But if we don't break the bank we have less pressure to feel if we do. |
Yep and that's why Birch is the man for the job. I can't see us making any of the stupid mistakes we did in the past with forking out tens of millions on gambles for players. If we do need to break our transfer record, it will be on the right ones, from a very well experienced backroom team with Scott heading recruitment.
Trev won't be handing out crazy contracts when he knows there's a risk of relegation.
To me, that feels much more secure than before. | |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 22:06 - Sep 2 with 1549 views | Garyjack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:52 - Sep 2 by phact0rri |
maybe birch and co tend to mention a "five year plan" quite often. |
Do they? Have you got a link, cos i've never heard it? Not that i'm disbelieving you of course. | | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 22:07 - Sep 2 with 1548 views | Jinxy |
I think everyone is being unfair and misunderstanding the OP here. It's all about enjoying football isn't it, whatever the "level"? Frankly, I am so enjoying watching our young players playing attacking possession football. The PL is ALL about the money, with no time or patience afforded to players that need time to prove/develop, be they young or old.
Most of those that didn't renew their ST's will disagree with the OP, and I understand the natural desire to improve at all costs (I said as much to to Potter), but for me the matchday experience is king (whether home, away or on the telly) - I'm loving our football now and would really rather not watch over paid, overrated (Clucas for God's sake) and not bothered (Ki) footballers prancing about, looking good on the "big" stage. I don't care what anyone thinks of this tbh. |  | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 22:22 - Sep 2 with 1514 views | phact0rri |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 22:06 - Sep 2 by Garyjack |
Do they? Have you got a link, cos i've never heard it? Not that i'm disbelieving you of course. |
doing a quick google search nothing came up. so maybe I dreamed the whole thing or I heard it on some spoken interviews. At anyrate it existing or not doesn't affect the argument, that I hope we are careful and continue to the path to get to firm financial ground before we try to spend to advance in the football leagues. | |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 22:40 - Sep 2 with 1493 views | Magic_Michu |
People said we’d fall straight back down last time and we last 7 years... and should have stayed longer if it wasn’t for Jenkins and co getting distracted and taking their eyes off the ball.
I feel we’d be in a stronger position going up now than we were before. |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 00:41 - Sep 3 with 1412 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 22:07 - Sep 2 by Jinxy |
I think everyone is being unfair and misunderstanding the OP here. It's all about enjoying football isn't it, whatever the "level"? Frankly, I am so enjoying watching our young players playing attacking possession football. The PL is ALL about the money, with no time or patience afforded to players that need time to prove/develop, be they young or old.
Most of those that didn't renew their ST's will disagree with the OP, and I understand the natural desire to improve at all costs (I said as much to to Potter), but for me the matchday experience is king (whether home, away or on the telly) - I'm loving our football now and would really rather not watch over paid, overrated (Clucas for God's sake) and not bothered (Ki) footballers prancing about, looking good on the "big" stage. I don't care what anyone thinks of this tbh. |
Jinxy , you’re a cool cat but there is another way. I couldn’t see Birch buying a Clucas over Cooper’s head because he thinks he’s a scouting DOF. No , our recruitment may be more along the lines of ML, buy cheap foreign players who turn into superstars | |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 01:33 - Sep 3 with 1392 views | JackBishop |
I wrote this comment on 5th July 2017:
I was in Cardiff today at a conference and had to sit with a bunch of local noises. The conversation was about Cardiff and how the lack of a club in the Prem was hampering raising the profile of the city. They were listing the advantages they had over the Swans of a bigger ground, larger fan base and a more populous hinterland. Plus Cardiff is the capital city and is more prosperous and a bigger economic hub.
Eventually I was asked where I was from and I was able to say the home of the only Premier club in Wales and I have a season ticket. I was described as lucky and my parentage doubted.
If we go up and leave the Scummers behind that will be great. We get fook all in Swansea, if we get our place back in the Prem every MOTD, Sky Sports broadcast, BT footy show, Radio 5 Live and even TalkfockingSport is one in the eye for Das Kapital, BBCland. Wales Online and most of all Jason M the King of Snide. | | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 03:51 - Sep 3 with 1360 views | Cooperman |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:52 - Sep 2 by phact0rri |
maybe birch and co tend to mention a "five year plan" quite often. |
I’ve never heard of a five year plan. |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 05:40 - Sep 3 with 1335 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:37 - Sep 2 by jasper_T |
Truth somewhere in the middle imo. As one of the very few big clubs in Wales there is something of a duty to provide the best possible home for the development of Welsh footballers. We're a small country so if we don't do it, who will? The Welsh Prem doesn't have anything like the resources the Football League and PL academy structure can provide. So we ought to be taking advantage of that.
But certainly not to the detriment of the club's financial health. And an expensive category status isn't necessarily the best way to do that, anyway. Not when our development sides have been packed with imports until very recently, and talented local lads have been starved of valuable gametime and released from the club. |
Totally agree.
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 06:32 - Sep 3 with 1324 views | dameedna |
Either
Go up and retain and buy new players
Or
Stay in Championship, lose players, get relegated
I don't mind L1 football but prefer premiership football
Come on Coops and Co get us up this year as champions we have the players to do it |  | | |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 07:00 - Sep 3 with 1314 views | Dr_Winston |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:30 - Sep 2 by longlostjack |
I don’t agree with your logic. I’d love to see the Academy loaning out players to other Premier League sides because they couldn’t get into our first team. An Academy full of Harry Wilson level talent not quite good enough for the Swans. I have a dream. |
You're looking for logic in a Kilkenny academy post?
Good luck. |  |
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| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 07:02 - Sep 3 with 1309 views | Dr_Winston |
| Do we WANT Premier League football???? on 21:37 - Sep 2 by jasper_T |
Truth somewhere in the middle imo. As one of the very few big clubs in Wales there is something of a duty to provide the best possible home for the development of Welsh footballers. We're a small country so if we don't do it, who will? The Welsh Prem doesn't have anything like the resources the Football League and PL academy structure can provide. So we ought to be taking advantage of that.
But certainly not to the detriment of the club's financial health. And an expensive category status isn't necessarily the best way to do that, anyway. Not when our development sides have been packed with imports until very recently, and talented local lads have been starved of valuable gametime and released from the club. |
We have a duty to produce players for SCFC good enough for our first team so that we don't have to spend millions buying them in from elsewhere. That's it. We have no other responsibilities or concerns.
If the FAW want Welsh players produced they can spend their own money doing it. | |
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