| Oli McBurnie 10:31 - Jul 27 with 56980 views | jackharris |
There has been talk this morning that a 18 million bid has been accepted from Sheffield United? I wonder how true this is? Is anyone able to shed some light. We will see at 2pm today when the team sheet is published. |  |
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| Oli McBurnie on 12:10 - Jul 28 with 2783 views | andrew |
Keeping him on the pitch after a knock wouldn’t be the brightest of moves surely? |  |
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| Oli McBurnie on 12:26 - Jul 28 with 2687 views | Swanseaman |
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there's nothing concrete saying mcburnie is leaving. sportsmole have an article where their source is from 'the sun', people are saying that he had some swans leaving party, no evidence though.
I've read a lot about money talks and anyone offered playing at a higher level and better wages. but not everyone is the same. yes, the majority of people are like sheep, but then you get the individuals, who don't follow what everyone else would do.
mcburnie is a unique person, he is a character, it's possible he has belief in himself and the team, and wants another crack at promotion with us before deciding anything.
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| Oli McBurnie on 12:50 - Jul 28 with 2527 views | shandyjack |
| Oli McBurnie on 12:26 - Jul 28 by Swanseaman |
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there's nothing concrete saying mcburnie is leaving. sportsmole have an article where their source is from 'the sun', people are saying that he had some swans leaving party, no evidence though.
I've read a lot about money talks and anyone offered playing at a higher level and better wages. but not everyone is the same. yes, the majority of people are like sheep, but then you get the individuals, who don't follow what everyone else would do.
mcburnie is a unique person, he is a character, it's possible he has belief in himself and the team, and wants another crack at promotion with us before deciding anything.
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mate if we accept a bid he'll be gone like the rest of them, just admit it to yourself already |  |
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| Oli McBurnie on 12:54 - Jul 28 with 2502 views | Badlands |
| Oli McBurnie on 11:31 - Jul 28 by Fireboy2 |
Its a damn shame we have to sell a 24 goal striker that could help us push for promotion whilst we have several wastes of skin leeching money from the club for doing the square root of fvck all.
It makes my blood boil, i just hope that baston stays til at least january otherwise we will be fighting in the relegation zone with CBR up top. |
Know what you mean but TBF any player offered better wages and a sep up will take it.
The thing is we don't have to sell him and Birch will only sell if the price is high enough.
How high is that? The term used was, 'Silly money.' [Post edited 28 Jul 2019 12:55]
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| Oli McBurnie on 12:57 - Jul 28 with 2482 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oli McBurnie on 12:26 - Jul 28 by Swanseaman |
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there's nothing concrete saying mcburnie is leaving. sportsmole have an article where their source is from 'the sun', people are saying that he had some swans leaving party, no evidence though.
I've read a lot about money talks and anyone offered playing at a higher level and better wages. but not everyone is the same. yes, the majority of people are like sheep, but then you get the individuals, who don't follow what everyone else would do.
mcburnie is a unique person, he is a character, it's possible he has belief in himself and the team, and wants another crack at promotion with us before deciding anything.
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Oli is not going to choose Swansea City over a dream move to the Premier league. The signing on fee alone is £1.8m. Life changing money.
He is a Rangers fan, not a Swans fan. Why would he stay ?
Might be different if he was a local lad, but even then ..?
The club will take the money if the bid comes in, and Oli will take the opportunity. Good luck to him.
The Swans job has been to plan for this as it was always likely to happen, and we have ... right ? Its not exactly a surprise is it. |  |
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| Oli McBurnie on 12:57 - Jul 28 with 2480 views | Gaz_M |
| Oli McBurnie on 11:31 - Jul 28 by Fireboy2 |
Its a damn shame we have to sell a 24 goal striker that could help us push for promotion whilst we have several wastes of skin leeching money from the club for doing the square root of fvck all.
It makes my blood boil, i just hope that baston stays til at least january otherwise we will be fighting in the relegation zone with CBR up top. |
Courtney Baker-Richardson would still not be out first choice striker. Routledge would. | | | |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:09 - Jul 28 with 2413 views | Badlands |
| Oli McBurnie on 11:36 - Jul 27 by swancity |
Are those goal scoring targets on your PlayStation game or real life?
As Routledge has a career record of barely one goal in ten games and has gone 100 plus league matches without a goal before now
A realistic target or expectation from Wayne is five goals plus more assists. He’s been an incredible professional and has served our Club well but coming up to 35 his best days are well and truly in the past😫 |
Routledge scored 5 goals in 22 game last season.
League record 2018 19
Ollie - 22 goals 37 starts (42 appearances) 0.6 goals a game - (predicted 26 for 46 games)
Bersant 5 in 33 starts (38 appearances) 0.15 goals a game- (predicted 7 for 46 games)
Routledge 5 in 22 starts (24 appearances) 0.22 goals a game (predicted 10 for 46 games)
James 4 in 28 starts (33 appearances) 0.14 goals a game (predicted 6 for 46 games)
So real life - easy if you attend games and look at reality rather Han go with the herd mentality that Routledge and it seems this season Van der Hoorn are s**te.
In fact, if Ollie leaves his goal per game ratio based on last season will be the best at the club.
Routledge may well be 35 but he's still stronger, quicker, more effective, more creative and more reliable than Dyer, McKay, Asoro.
But it seems Cooper shares your view. Suggests to me he'll be recalled in December if the 'youngsters' once again fail to deliver the goods. | |
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| Oli McBurnie on 13:31 - Jul 28 with 2278 views | monmouth |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:09 - Jul 28 by Badlands |
Routledge scored 5 goals in 22 game last season.
League record 2018 19
Ollie - 22 goals 37 starts (42 appearances) 0.6 goals a game - (predicted 26 for 46 games)
Bersant 5 in 33 starts (38 appearances) 0.15 goals a game- (predicted 7 for 46 games)
Routledge 5 in 22 starts (24 appearances) 0.22 goals a game (predicted 10 for 46 games)
James 4 in 28 starts (33 appearances) 0.14 goals a game (predicted 6 for 46 games)
So real life - easy if you attend games and look at reality rather Han go with the herd mentality that Routledge and it seems this season Van der Hoorn are s**te.
In fact, if Ollie leaves his goal per game ratio based on last season will be the best at the club.
Routledge may well be 35 but he's still stronger, quicker, more effective, more creative and more reliable than Dyer, McKay, Asoro.
But it seems Cooper shares your view. Suggests to me he'll be recalled in December if the 'youngsters' once again fail to deliver the goods. |
I think Dyer could still surprise. He was getting over a terrible injury, but I am biased as Imthink he and routs should be held in far more affection than they are, given their role in our rise and especially the golden period.
Celina would be good for 15 to 20 goals a season if he could finish easy chances. He only seems to put away the highlights reel ones. |  |
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| Oli McBurnie on 13:31 - Jul 28 with 2277 views | Swanseaman |
| Oli McBurnie on 12:57 - Jul 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Oli is not going to choose Swansea City over a dream move to the Premier league. The signing on fee alone is £1.8m. Life changing money.
He is a Rangers fan, not a Swans fan. Why would he stay ?
Might be different if he was a local lad, but even then ..?
The club will take the money if the bid comes in, and Oli will take the opportunity. Good luck to him.
The Swans job has been to plan for this as it was always likely to happen, and we have ... right ? Its not exactly a surprise is it. |
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can you explain how you have worked out mcburnie will be getting a £1.8m signing on fee?
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| Oli McBurnie on 13:45 - Jul 28 with 2216 views | Badlands |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:31 - Jul 28 by Swanseaman |
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can you explain how you have worked out mcburnie will be getting a £1.8m signing on fee?
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Rule of thumb 10%.
May or may not be true.
Additional wages would be substantial but not outlandishly so, Sheffield aren't throwing money around. | |
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| Oli McBurnie on 13:48 - Jul 28 with 2197 views | monmouth |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:31 - Jul 28 by Swanseaman |
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can you explain how you have worked out mcburnie will be getting a £1.8m signing on fee?
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I presume 10% is the going rate? Not that it matters if the signing on fee was zero. The pay and the step up would be sufficient. If he scores a few and Brighton get relegated some other prem team will pick him up. | |
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| Oli McBurnie on 13:50 - Jul 28 with 2185 views | londonlisa2001 |
If McBurnie does go, I hope it’s early this week so we have some time, rather than on the last day of the window.
I’d rather he stayed, but I suspect we won’t turn down a bid of c. £18m for him. Particularly if Baston can’t be moved on.
It’s alarming that there is seemingly no interest in Ayew or Montero, that would be a hugely damaging window if we end up having to pay them off. | | | |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:53 - Jul 28 with 2166 views | magicdaps10 |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:50 - Jul 28 by londonlisa2001 |
If McBurnie does go, I hope it’s early this week so we have some time, rather than on the last day of the window.
I’d rather he stayed, but I suspect we won’t turn down a bid of c. £18m for him. Particularly if Baston can’t be moved on.
It’s alarming that there is seemingly no interest in Ayew or Montero, that would be a hugely damaging window if we end up having to pay them off. |
Pay them off!!!???!!!! That is not going to happen. |  |
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| Oli McBurnie on 13:54 - Jul 28 with 2158 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:53 - Jul 28 by magicdaps10 |
Pay them off!!!???!!!! That is not going to happen. |
We’re not going to keep them at the club. | | | |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:56 - Jul 28 with 2146 views | magicdaps10 |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:54 - Jul 28 by londonlisa2001 |
We’re not going to keep them at the club. |
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| Oli McBurnie on 14:27 - Jul 28 with 1988 views | Swanseaman |
| Oli McBurnie on 13:45 - Jul 28 by Badlands |
Rule of thumb 10%.
May or may not be true.
Additional wages would be substantial but not outlandishly so, Sheffield aren't throwing money around. |
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all the information i've checked mentions agents fee, players wages, but nothing about players sign on fee?
5% to 10% are the usual agents fee.
if mcburnie's agent, our club and sheffield are in talks trying to negotiate a deal, no one here will know details of anything regarding fee %.
people think they know what will 'definitely' happen, but we don't. any football documentary i've ever watched, there will be x players who talk about an offer from a club they almost accepted, but they didn't really want to go there so turned down the offer.
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| Oli McBurnie on 14:31 - Jul 28 with 1962 views | Badlands |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:27 - Jul 28 by Swanseaman |
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all the information i've checked mentions agents fee, players wages, but nothing about players sign on fee?
5% to 10% are the usual agents fee.
if mcburnie's agent, our club and sheffield are in talks trying to negotiate a deal, no one here will know details of anything regarding fee %.
people think they know what will 'definitely' happen, but we don't. any football documentary i've ever watched, there will be x players who talk about an offer from a club they almost accepted, but they didn't really want to go there so turned down the offer.
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That's the reason I wrote maybe or may not be true ... I do think it is illegal or at least a it dodgy.
Not sure about the documentaries but players turning down a club does happen as we are well aware.
Sometimes it takes vastly inflated fees and wages (think Lucas Sanches) but often it involves persuading the players to move sideways or to lower lever teams. | |
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| Oli McBurnie on 14:40 - Jul 28 with 1915 views | Swanseaman |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:31 - Jul 28 by Badlands |
That's the reason I wrote maybe or may not be true ... I do think it is illegal or at least a it dodgy.
Not sure about the documentaries but players turning down a club does happen as we are well aware.
Sometimes it takes vastly inflated fees and wages (think Lucas Sanches) but often it involves persuading the players to move sideways or to lower lever teams. |
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i still live in hope that for whatever reason - maybe mcburnie's girlfriend doesn't want to go there - maybe mcburnie has great self belief, and wants to try and get promoted with us, or to go to a more secure premiership club (not be fighting relegation with sheffield).
money can usually convinces people to change their minds though, so i don't think he will definitely stay here, there is a chance, but with our clubs past history there is a big chance he will leave.
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| Oli McBurnie on 14:42 - Jul 28 with 1901 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:31 - Jul 28 by Badlands |
That's the reason I wrote maybe or may not be true ... I do think it is illegal or at least a it dodgy.
Not sure about the documentaries but players turning down a club does happen as we are well aware.
Sometimes it takes vastly inflated fees and wages (think Lucas Sanches) but often it involves persuading the players to move sideways or to lower lever teams. |
Signing on fees?
They’re not illegal. Players get a fee / bonus when signing a new contract let alone moving clubs.
The amounts we paid to players like Andre Ayew and Gomis were huge. | | | |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:47 - Jul 28 with 1873 views | Swanseaman |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:42 - Jul 28 by londonlisa2001 |
Signing on fees?
They’re not illegal. Players get a fee / bonus when signing a new contract let alone moving clubs.
The amounts we paid to players like Andre Ayew and Gomis were huge. |
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what is the usual % of a player signing on fee.
i can't find any information in searches, any links to any.
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| Oli McBurnie on 14:51 - Jul 28 with 1843 views | magicdaps10 |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:47 - Jul 28 by Swanseaman |
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what is the usual % of a player signing on fee.
i can't find any information in searches, any links to any.
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10% is the norm, if a player requests a transfer then it means that they null and void their signing on fee.
Free agents are in a glorious position, they own themselves so value themselves.... Possibly gaining close to their value if they were under contract with a club, Ayew and Gomis as Lisa said, they were free agents and made millions when they signed with us. | |
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| Oli McBurnie on 14:55 - Jul 28 with 1812 views | Swanseaman |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:51 - Jul 28 by magicdaps10 |
10% is the norm, if a player requests a transfer then it means that they null and void their signing on fee.
Free agents are in a glorious position, they own themselves so value themselves.... Possibly gaining close to their value if they were under contract with a club, Ayew and Gomis as Lisa said, they were free agents and made millions when they signed with us. |
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no link?
as i've said, all i have read is the agents fee. i presume they will workout how much of the agents fee is split between themselves and the player?
if you can send me a link showing there is a seperate agents fee and player fee that would be great.
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| Oli McBurnie on 15:05 - Jul 28 with 1760 views | magicdaps10 |
| Oli McBurnie on 14:55 - Jul 28 by Swanseaman |
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no link?
as i've said, all i have read is the agents fee. i presume they will workout how much of the agents fee is split between themselves and the player?
if you can send me a link showing there is a seperate agents fee and player fee that would be great.
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I can't give a link to the players contract but this is and always has been the general rule of thumb.
It might not be the case with Mcburnie but as I said, 10% you can't go to far wrong.
You are never going to have closure on this one, each contract will be different. | |
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| Oli McBurnie on 15:38 - Jul 28 with 1661 views | Swanseaman |
| Oli McBurnie on 15:05 - Jul 28 by magicdaps10 |
I can't give a link to the players contract but this is and always has been the general rule of thumb.
It might not be the case with Mcburnie but as I said, 10% you can't go to far wrong.
You are never going to have closure on this one, each contract will be different. |
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as i've said, all the information for player transfer deals in google searches i've looked at, do not mention there is a seperate players sign on fee, and agents fee.
if there was definite separate players fee, i'm sure i could find some information about this, but i can't.
i think you must be confusing the agents fee, which is at a general rule of thumb is 5% to 10% - but can go a way lot higher with man u, or barcelona transfers, up to 40% i've read!!
so lets say mcburnie's agent is trying for a 10% fee, surely he would then negotiate with mcburnie what his cut from the 10% would be?
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