| BBC... 22:44 - Dec 25 with 5774 views | Swanzay |
Why are the BBC calling people migrants and not refugees...? |  | | |  |
| BBC... on 23:53 - Dec 25 with 3093 views | Kilkennyjack |
Different things ...?
Google says ....
A migrant is a person who makes a conscious choice to leave their country to seek a better life elsewhere. Before they decide to leave their country, migrants can seek information about their new home, study the language and explore employment opportunities. They can plan their travel, take their belongings with them and say goodbye to the important people in their lives. They are free to return home at any time if things don’t work out as they had hoped, if they get homesick or if they wish to visit family members and friends left behind.
Refugees are forced to leave their country because they are at risk of, or have experienced persecution. The concerns of refugees are human rights and safety, not economic advantage. They leave behind their homes, most or all of their belongings, family members and friends. Some are forced to flee with no warning and many have experienced significant trauma or been tortured or otherwise ill-treated. The journey to safety is fraught with hazard and many refugees risk their lives in search of protection. They cannot return unless the situation that forced them to leave improves. (RCOA) |  |
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| BBC... on 00:37 - Dec 26 with 3068 views | Swanzay |
No one should be forced to leave their home.... | | | |
| BBC... on 00:43 - Dec 26 with 3066 views | Highjack |
The Beeb used to have a disclaimer underneath all its articles explaining what it meant by migrant. They seem to have dropped that recently.
Anyway under international law refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country they arrive at. So unless these chaps have come all the way from Iran in a dinghy then the bbc description is correct. |  |
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| BBC... on 01:20 - Dec 26 with 3053 views | Lohengrin |
If you were to ask anybody outside of The Guardian’s editorial team and the interns at The Beeb to name something off the top of your head that Britain needs more of I can’t imagine anybody answering ‘more moslems,’ can you in all honesty?
The anger at at the disconnect between people I talk to and work with and the remote political class (for that is exactly how they are viewed, strangers, often perverse) is beginning to crackle like charged air before a thunderstorm. The next five years could hold anything... [Post edited 26 Dec 2018 19:37]
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| BBC... on 01:42 - Dec 26 with 3047 views | Jack123 |
| BBC... on 01:20 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
If you were to ask anybody outside of The Guardian’s editorial team and the interns at The Beeb to name something off the top of your head that Britain needs more of I can’t imagine anybody answering ‘more moslems,’ can you in all honesty?
The anger at at the disconnect between people I talk to and work with and the remote political class (for that is exactly how they are viewed, strangers, often perverse) is beginning to crackle like charged air before a thunderstorm. The next five years could hold anything... [Post edited 26 Dec 2018 19:37]
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It will never end good allowing Muslims, to settle here in numbers! |  |
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| BBC... on 02:44 - Dec 26 with 3037 views | Groo |
Probably because they are migrants, like those camped in Calais, they are migrants, not refugees. |  |
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| BBC... on 02:53 - Dec 26 with 3033 views | DJack |
| BBC... on 01:20 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
If you were to ask anybody outside of The Guardian’s editorial team and the interns at The Beeb to name something off the top of your head that Britain needs more of I can’t imagine anybody answering ‘more moslems,’ can you in all honesty?
The anger at at the disconnect between people I talk to and work with and the remote political class (for that is exactly how they are viewed, strangers, often perverse) is beginning to crackle like charged air before a thunderstorm. The next five years could hold anything... [Post edited 26 Dec 2018 19:37]
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Don't you identify as a "Christian"? If I'm correct where is your compassion ...and yet you talk of disconnect. JRM do us a favour and shut up. |  |
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| BBC... on 05:32 - Dec 26 with 3008 views | jackrmee |
| BBC... on 01:42 - Dec 26 by Jack123 |
It will never end good allowing Muslims, to settle here in numbers! |
What a load of bollox. Some small minded idiots on here.
Muslims are some of the nicest people I ever met. People like you settling in numbers is what we're at risk of. |  |
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| BBC... on 08:02 - Dec 26 with 2972 views | Kilkennyjack |
For Loh -
Are the people you speak to Moslem at all ?
And as migrants tend to have little real power in their new country, what have they done to you and these people that you talk to ?
I mean - not paper talk - but real things in south Wales ..? [Post edited 26 Dec 2018 8:03]
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| BBC... on 08:25 - Dec 26 with 2953 views | WarwickHunt |
| BBC... on 01:42 - Dec 26 by Jack123 |
It will never end good allowing Muslims, to settle here in numbers! |
Make them learn English!  |  | | |
| BBC... on 08:49 - Dec 26 with 2924 views | Drizzy |
| BBC... on 01:20 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
If you were to ask anybody outside of The Guardian’s editorial team and the interns at The Beeb to name something off the top of your head that Britain needs more of I can’t imagine anybody answering ‘more moslems,’ can you in all honesty?
The anger at at the disconnect between people I talk to and work with and the remote political class (for that is exactly how they are viewed, strangers, often perverse) is beginning to crackle like charged air before a thunderstorm. The next five years could hold anything... [Post edited 26 Dec 2018 19:37]
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This is Lohengrin, folks. In complete drunken transparency. |  |
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| BBC... on 09:14 - Dec 26 with 2897 views | LeonWasGod |
| BBC... on 00:43 - Dec 26 by Highjack |
The Beeb used to have a disclaimer underneath all its articles explaining what it meant by migrant. They seem to have dropped that recently.
Anyway under international law refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country they arrive at. So unless these chaps have come all the way from Iran in a dinghy then the bbc description is correct. |
We’ve been having great fun in our amphibious dinghy this year 👠|  | | |
| BBC... on 12:01 - Dec 26 with 2834 views | Loyal |
| BBC... on 05:32 - Dec 26 by jackrmee |
What a load of bollox. Some small minded idiots on here.
Muslims are some of the nicest people I ever met. People like you settling in numbers is what we're at risk of. |
Thing is the Brexit vote was generally based on the immigration question. The problem of course is that numerous terrorist offences committed by Muslims in the UK who have come here as our guests has seen hundreds of lives lost. Mostly British.
Had they not been here those families would not be grieving, hating and wanting change. Yes, some offences were and will be committed by UK based Muslims but try telling the people who are sympathetic to young innocent British lives being lost on our own soul that it is ok because they are generally nice people. |  |
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| BBC... on 12:10 - Dec 26 with 2822 views | LeonWasGod |
| BBC... on 12:01 - Dec 26 by Loyal |
Thing is the Brexit vote was generally based on the immigration question. The problem of course is that numerous terrorist offences committed by Muslims in the UK who have come here as our guests has seen hundreds of lives lost. Mostly British.
Had they not been here those families would not be grieving, hating and wanting change. Yes, some offences were and will be committed by UK based Muslims but try telling the people who are sympathetic to young innocent British lives being lost on our own soul that it is ok because they are generally nice people. |
It'd be interesting to see the numbers, but I bet there have been many more terrorist offences in the UK during our lifetimes undertaken by people of a Christian background.
Not that I'm downplaying fundamentalist islamic types - it's a real enough problem. | | | |
| BBC... on 19:45 - Dec 26 with 2746 views | Lohengrin |
| BBC... on 02:53 - Dec 26 by DJack |
Don't you identify as a "Christian"? If I'm correct where is your compassion ...and yet you talk of disconnect. JRM do us a favour and shut up. |
The Christianity of The Psalms not the Bloomsbury Anglicanism of endless self-debasement. | |
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| BBC... on 19:49 - Dec 26 with 2740 views | Lohengrin |
| BBC... on 08:49 - Dec 26 by Drizzy |
This is Lohengrin, folks. In complete drunken transparency. |
That made me laugh anyway, along with everybody else I showed your post to. Probably not the effect intended, but good manners bid me thank you all the same.
Ta. | |
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| BBC... on 19:55 - Dec 26 with 2733 views | Humpty |
| BBC... on 19:45 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
The Christianity of The Psalms not the Bloomsbury Anglicanism of endless self-debasement. |
The Psalms is from the Old Testament isn't it? |  | | |
| BBC... on 20:02 - Dec 26 with 2723 views | Lohengrin |
| BBC... on 19:55 - Dec 26 by Humpty |
The Psalms is from the Old Testament isn't it? |
Truth be told, Hump, what you and I would recognise as The Psalms, the language with which we’re familiar, dates from the 17th Century. | |
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| BBC... on 20:08 - Dec 26 with 2716 views | Humpty |
| BBC... on 20:02 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
Truth be told, Hump, what you and I would recognise as The Psalms, the language with which we’re familiar, dates from the 17th Century. |
You mean the King James bible? I'm not taking the piss, I haven't looked at a bible since I was no longer made to, which was a very long time ago.
I just checked, it is the OT. | | | |
| BBC... on 20:10 - Dec 26 with 2714 views | Lohengrin |
| BBC... on 20:08 - Dec 26 by Humpty |
You mean the King James bible? I'm not taking the piss, I haven't looked at a bible since I was no longer made to, which was a very long time ago.
I just checked, it is the OT. |
I always refer to The King James Bible, Hump. It’s everything. | |
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| BBC... on 20:12 - Dec 26 with 2709 views | exiledclaseboy |
| BBC... on 20:10 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
I always refer to The King James Bible, Hump. It’s everything. |
Aye. Possibly the first example of spin doctoring on a mass scale. |  |
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| BBC... on 20:12 - Dec 26 with 2706 views | Humpty |
| BBC... on 20:10 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
I always refer to The King James Bible, Hump. It’s everything. |
So you're the type of Christian who likes the bible before Christ was involved in it?
I know they won't let you join but your more of a Jew than a Christian really. | | | |
| BBC... on 20:22 - Dec 26 with 2700 views | Lohengrin |
| BBC... on 20:12 - Dec 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Aye. Possibly the first example of spin doctoring on a mass scale. |
It’s the apotheosis of beauty, Clase. The Word in all its majesty. | |
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| BBC... on 20:23 - Dec 26 with 2698 views | Lohengrin |
| BBC... on 20:12 - Dec 26 by Humpty |
So you're the type of Christian who likes the bible before Christ was involved in it?
I know they won't let you join but your more of a Jew than a Christian really. |
I’ve never applied, Hump.  | |
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| BBC... on 20:25 - Dec 26 with 2693 views | exiledclaseboy |
| BBC... on 20:22 - Dec 26 by Lohengrin |
It’s the apotheosis of beauty, Clase. The Word in all its majesty. |
You’ve been at the mead again. | |
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