| Minimum Price for Alcohol 18:18 - Oct 23 with 7530 views | Flashberryjack |
The Welsh assembly intend to introduce a minimum price on alcohol.
Opinions seem to be very divided, personally I'm against, what are your thoughts ? |  |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 20:47 - Oct 23 with 3584 views | SY1973 |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 20:37 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
So do nothing then?
Whatever course is taken, it will never be perfect or please everyone.
Alcohol is a c*nt of a drug that is somehow socially accepted, yet drug users are mostly looked down upon as scumbags. |
That’s because most drug users are scumbags |  | | |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:01 - Oct 23 with 3559 views | Neath_Jack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 20:47 - Oct 23 by SY1973 |
That’s because most drug users are scumbags |
Are most alcoholics scumbags too? |  |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:08 - Oct 23 with 3551 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:01 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
Are most alcoholics scumbags too? |
This is dgt mind. Don’t get drawn into his idiocy. That way lies madness. |  |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:11 - Oct 23 with 3545 views | Neath_Jack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:08 - Oct 23 by exiledclaseboy |
This is dgt mind. Don’t get drawn into his idiocy. That way lies madness. |
Ah right, hadn't noticed him before.
Noted. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:11 - Oct 23 with 3543 views | Flashberryjack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 20:37 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
So do nothing then?
Whatever course is taken, it will never be perfect or please everyone.
Alcohol is a c*nt of a drug that is somehow socially accepted, yet drug users are mostly looked down upon as scumbags. |
It's not a case of "do nothing" it's a case of not bringing out legislation that will make no impact on the problem whatsoever, when in fact some suggest will actually have the opposite effect. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:12 - Oct 23 with 3538 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:11 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
Ah right, hadn't noticed him before.
Noted. |
It’s the latest in a long line of new usernames he’s created in recent weeks. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:16 - Oct 23 with 3524 views | Neath_Jack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:11 - Oct 23 by Flashberryjack |
It's not a case of "do nothing" it's a case of not bringing out legislation that will make no impact on the problem whatsoever, when in fact some suggest will actually have the opposite effect. |
So what's the answer then? Because what they are doing doesn't align to your preference, you rubbish it. What would you like to see happen and how will that benefit all or the majority. Unless things are tried, then we stay the same. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:17 - Oct 23 with 3521 views | Neath_Jack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:12 - Oct 23 by exiledclaseboy |
It’s the latest in a long line of new usernames he’s created in recent weeks. |
Has his DGT moniker been banned then? | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:18 - Oct 23 with 3518 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:17 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
Has his DGT moniker been banned then? |
I’ve no idea. If it has I’ve no idea why. [Post edited 23 Oct 2017 21:19]
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:20 - Oct 23 with 3515 views | SY1973 |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:16 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
So what's the answer then? Because what they are doing doesn't align to your preference, you rubbish it. What would you like to see happen and how will that benefit all or the majority. Unless things are tried, then we stay the same. |
If people want to drink, or take drugs , they should be allowed too.
If they become ill as a result of their behaviour, why should the rest of society pick up the bill ?. | | | |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:22 - Oct 23 with 3508 views | Neath_Jack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:20 - Oct 23 by SY1973 |
If people want to drink, or take drugs , they should be allowed too.
If they become ill as a result of their behaviour, why should the rest of society pick up the bill ?. |
I'm out. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:24 - Oct 23 with 3504 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:22 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
I'm out. |
I did warn you.  | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:37 - Oct 23 with 3485 views | nice_to_michu |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:24 - Oct 23 by exiledclaseboy |
I did warn you. |
What's DGT? |  | | |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:39 - Oct 23 with 3484 views | Flashberryjack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:16 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
So what's the answer then? Because what they are doing doesn't align to your preference, you rubbish it. What would you like to see happen and how will that benefit all or the majority. Unless things are tried, then we stay the same. |
Minimum charge for Coke and skunk, at least that would be fair to all, and would have just about the same affect as raising the price of alcohol. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:41 - Oct 23 with 3482 views | Neath_Jack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:39 - Oct 23 by Flashberryjack |
Minimum charge for Coke and skunk, at least that would be fair to all, and would have just about the same affect as raising the price of alcohol. |
Easy to talk something down, not quite as easy to suggest solutions. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 09:16 - Oct 24 with 3411 views | controversial_jack |
Legalise drugs and it would bankrupt all dealers overnight.Reduced crime, better quality substances, more control and possibly more help for the users. | | | |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 09:22 - Oct 24 with 3407 views | whoflungdung |
We ve got a drinking culture and we need to do something
£2.50 a pint doesn't help
Personally, I d hammer cigarettes, booze and betting, all curses ,all unnecessary .
Hard truth.
Look at our high streets | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 11:45 - Oct 24 with 3379 views | majorraglan |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 19:02 - Oct 23 by union_jack |
I thought that the Scottish plan had been legally challenged. That said, it may be in force and awaiting a decision as to whether it is repealed or not.
WAG say it will save 50 alcohol related deaths a year. How on earth can they say that and similarly how can anyone at this stage dispute it.
Maybe they are working on getting duty from alcohol to be paid to the devolved government. |
I can see both sides of the coin, alcohol can cause a lot of misery and suffering, however a lot of people enjoy a drink in moderation now and again and pushing the price up is going to punish them. It may also drive people who need alcohol but can't afford it to stealing.
I can't understand why the WAG are contemplating bringing this legislation at the moment when similar legislation which was introduced in Scotland is being challenged in the European Courts, it seems like a complete waste of time and money. Why not wait for the outcome of the ongoing case in Europe? | | | |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 12:10 - Oct 24 with 3363 views | Flashberryjack |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 21:41 - Oct 23 by Neath_Jack |
Easy to talk something down, not quite as easy to suggest solutions. |
I was talking it down because increasing the price of alcohol will only affect the people that are not dependent on it, the ones that are dependent on it will just look for different methods to fund their illness. This is just a sticky plaster answer by the WA to a problem, where probably there is no answer.
If the Welsh Assembly are so concerned about alcohol addiction, they should give more support to those that are suffering from the illness, because, believe me there is very little help out there at the moment.
As for your suggestion to ban alcohol completely, that idea didn't work in the USA many years ago, so I see no reason why it would work here now, I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 14:01 - Oct 24 with 3333 views | Highjack |
I'm guessing this is a labour policy and that Leanne and Beth are not supportive of it |  |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 14:14 - Oct 24 with 3329 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 14:01 - Oct 24 by Highjack |
I'm guessing this is a labour policy and that Leanne and Beth are not supportive of it |
Leanne is ok with it so long as she gets her pay rise back. |  |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 16:10 - Oct 24 with 3300 views | Darran |
lol
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 16:17 - Oct 24 with 3295 views | whoflungdung |
Moderation is find and I like a drink.
However I truly would pay double for a bottle of wine and beer if it helped
To be able to buy stuff so cheap is plain wrong | |
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| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 16:26 - Oct 24 with 3289 views | nantywatcher |
| Minimum Price for Alcohol on 12:10 - Oct 24 by Flashberryjack |
I was talking it down because increasing the price of alcohol will only affect the people that are not dependent on it, the ones that are dependent on it will just look for different methods to fund their illness. This is just a sticky plaster answer by the WA to a problem, where probably there is no answer.
If the Welsh Assembly are so concerned about alcohol addiction, they should give more support to those that are suffering from the illness, because, believe me there is very little help out there at the moment.
As for your suggestion to ban alcohol completely, that idea didn't work in the USA many years ago, so I see no reason why it would work here now, I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. |
Alcohol dependency is an illness.
Alcohol invades EVERY part of the human body (apart from our earlobes)
EVERY "alcoholic" I have spent time with has stated that cheap offers in supermarkets and corner shops are the curse that blights their road to recovery, and a normal life.
There is help in every corner of South Wales for people who want it. There are AA meetings every single day of the year within a few miles of wherever you might live. Tens of millions of people attend these meetings every day of the year.
I work in that sector and a minimum price for alcohol is a MUST.
If any of this resonates with you please PM me. | | | |
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