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For goodness sake chill out 17:28 - Apr 9 with 7092 viewsrock1n

There's so much anger on this site, it's quite ridiculous at times.

In the short term we're right in the mix, when it wasn't that long ago we were doomed to relegation. People forget this, we WERE down we didn't stand even a glimmer around the turn of the year.

We've got an excellent, ambitious young manager who is still learning his craft. Rome was not built in a day.

Whatever happens if we get relegated, we need to get behind our new manager to get us back up. If we stay up, fantastic then we build for next year.

This negativity is doing nobody any good, the obsession with Huw Jenkins is classic Swansea. We love to love and love to hate, when reality is usually grey.

Stop moaning and start getting behind the team, our support is p1ss poor at the moment and it has been for a while.

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For goodness sake chill out on 11:26 - Apr 10 with 1175 viewsWarwickHunt

"I ,am the very last type of person our stadium needs to visit."

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For goodness sake chill out on 11:32 - Apr 10 with 1167 viewsperchrockjack

Thanks phil but keep Islam out of it mun

Frankly, the act the A483 is exactly as it was in 1976 doesn't encourage one to do the four hundred mile round trip,although plenty doing it the other way and ending up at Manchester.

Lets be honest, you ve gone to games ,looked around and thought... just what cheap shoes.Why do I mix with these Plebs

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For goodness sake chill out on 11:37 - Apr 10 with 1164 viewsSwanseajill

For goodness sake chill out on 10:49 - Apr 10 by Kerouac

I disagree.
Since we have been in the Prem the atmosphere has been getting worse year on year IMO.

I put this down to many season tickets being sold at the outset to people who didn't really attend much pre-Prem...they bought them for themselves and their kids, many old school fans found themselves locked out of the Prem party.
These people were only here for the success and have renewed every year.
They have become bored, are going through the motions and will disappear on our relegation.

For that matter all of the old school types who got their season ticket and have renewed every year since have become bored and are going through the motions also.


We have become stale, there is no new blood coming through (other than the spoiled offspring of the middle class).
Our crowd is an old one.
All of the passion has gone.

When we go behind I like to start singing and upping the support in general, it's embarrassing when you are middle aged and singing on your own though!


Some points you make I agree with.

But this site is a constant search fo who's to blame. My beef is that the last people to blame is the fact that the fans ...are not singing.

When you have a board that seclude a party that may disagree with an upcoming sale of shares. A board that take their eye off the success on the pitch, to ensure their success on the sale of their shares ...should have the blame laid before them.

The very last people to blame are the fans, be they old, young or kids.....they...are at the very bottom of a long list of people who are to genuinely to blame.
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For goodness sake chill out on 11:49 - Apr 10 with 1152 viewsperchrockjack

Lor

Apportioning blame is merely a release from pain.

Its all too evident what has happened


Fans are pretty much shell shocked . When one is traumatised,so to speak, its either schtum or scream.

I don't take defeat well, ever

What is the bitterest pill is that this debacle has been so unnecessary as we ve handled the initial hardest years then ,by utter incompetence, thrown it away.

Without doubt ,Swansea s biggest commercial calamity for many years.

People will lose jobs, the area, depressed already ,will lose further income and world wide profile YET some dot see this as a problem as they will be less "plastics" at games.

You talk about fans , that might be a problem actually as ,on here, there are clearly many who see themselves as top grade fans, better than others. I'm not sure any other club has this attitude.

You re either a fan or not, whether you are able to go to a game or not

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For goodness sake chill out on 12:07 - Apr 10 with 1139 viewsPURe_Evil

For goodness sake chill out on 11:37 - Apr 10 by Swanseajill

Some points you make I agree with.

But this site is a constant search fo who's to blame. My beef is that the last people to blame is the fact that the fans ...are not singing.

When you have a board that seclude a party that may disagree with an upcoming sale of shares. A board that take their eye off the success on the pitch, to ensure their success on the sale of their shares ...should have the blame laid before them.

The very last people to blame are the fans, be they old, young or kids.....they...are at the very bottom of a long list of people who are to genuinely to blame.


And a trust that takes their eye off the board...
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For goodness sake chill out on 12:44 - Apr 10 with 1115 viewsSwanseajill

For goodness sake chill out on 11:49 - Apr 10 by perchrockjack

Lor

Apportioning blame is merely a release from pain.

Its all too evident what has happened


Fans are pretty much shell shocked . When one is traumatised,so to speak, its either schtum or scream.

I don't take defeat well, ever

What is the bitterest pill is that this debacle has been so unnecessary as we ve handled the initial hardest years then ,by utter incompetence, thrown it away.

Without doubt ,Swansea s biggest commercial calamity for many years.

People will lose jobs, the area, depressed already ,will lose further income and world wide profile YET some dot see this as a problem as they will be less "plastics" at games.

You talk about fans , that might be a problem actually as ,on here, there are clearly many who see themselves as top grade fans, better than others. I'm not sure any other club has this attitude.

You re either a fan or not, whether you are able to go to a game or not


Couldn't reply any sooner because the recent bout of adds for this site is screwing up simple replies.

Richie,I don't care if supporters are from Greenland or like, but I really can't believe that the horrible mess we are in is anything to do with our fans. We fill the stadium every home game, the away fans deserve praise for their efforts and support.

Taking your eye off the squad and the smooth running of the club, of buying and selling players for the good of the club, and not for the good of a balance sheet and share valuations is where the blame should lay.

We, as mere paying fans, can do little about it.
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For goodness sake chill out on 12:50 - Apr 10 with 1098 viewsDarran

For goodness sake chill out on 11:49 - Apr 10 by perchrockjack

Lor

Apportioning blame is merely a release from pain.

Its all too evident what has happened


Fans are pretty much shell shocked . When one is traumatised,so to speak, its either schtum or scream.

I don't take defeat well, ever

What is the bitterest pill is that this debacle has been so unnecessary as we ve handled the initial hardest years then ,by utter incompetence, thrown it away.

Without doubt ,Swansea s biggest commercial calamity for many years.

People will lose jobs, the area, depressed already ,will lose further income and world wide profile YET some dot see this as a problem as they will be less "plastics" at games.

You talk about fans , that might be a problem actually as ,on here, there are clearly many who see themselves as top grade fans, better than others. I'm not sure any other club has this attitude.

You re either a fan or not, whether you are able to go to a game or not


But you can go to games you just can't be arsed.

Surely you're not saying you're as much as a fan as someone who travels the length and breadth of the country watching every game?

Seriously you are either mentally ill or you are the stupidest man on the planet.

Fuçking hell.

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For goodness sake chill out on 13:04 - Apr 10 with 1088 viewsperchrockjack

Lorraine.

Main problem this sire is are the constant stream of derailing crap from Darran that goes on unchecked


I do actually agree with you


Look at what I've posted


Fans are pretty much periferal in the grand scheme of things but can help inspire. Our fans ,IMO don't and possibly because of the hiatus behind the scenes


Please ignore Darran s interventions .

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For goodness sake chill out on 13:14 - Apr 10 with 1077 viewsSwanseajill

For goodness sake chill out on 13:04 - Apr 10 by perchrockjack

Lorraine.

Main problem this sire is are the constant stream of derailing crap from Darran that goes on unchecked


I do actually agree with you


Look at what I've posted


Fans are pretty much periferal in the grand scheme of things but can help inspire. Our fans ,IMO don't and possibly because of the hiatus behind the scenes


Please ignore Darran s interventions .


To finish Richie, Most games I applaud and sing. Currently I'm too stressed to do either.
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For goodness sake chill out on 13:15 - Apr 10 with 1076 viewsvetchonian

For goodness sake chill out on 09:19 - Apr 10 by Swanseajill

Simply caused by tension, failure,future unknown,disappointment. The last thing on our minds is singing.
Even though it's the everyone is to blame season? There is no blame to be attached to the paying fans.


I wouldnt blame the fans.....the blame for our prediciment lies with one person for me a true traitor to the cause..a Judas of modern times I hope his 30 pieces of silver give him peace.

My comments about the silent crowd on Wednesday was just meant to show how the atmosphere in the Liberty has changed......the team needed us on Wednesday but we didnt really show up ....as they didnt on Saturday!

I do not blame us fans for where we are but in our remaining games we need to get behind the team or if they are not doing the business lets let them know!

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For goodness sake chill out on 13:18 - Apr 10 with 1062 viewsDarran

For goodness sake chill out on 13:04 - Apr 10 by perchrockjack

Lorraine.

Main problem this sire is are the constant stream of derailing crap from Darran that goes on unchecked


I do actually agree with you


Look at what I've posted


Fans are pretty much periferal in the grand scheme of things but can help inspire. Our fans ,IMO don't and possibly because of the hiatus behind the scenes


Please ignore Darran s interventions .


Derailing?

We've got season ticket holders travelling from all over the country for every home game whilst you sit in your living room and you're slagging them off you daft twàt.

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For goodness sake chill out on 13:36 - Apr 10 with 1052 viewsperchrockjack

Are you a full soprano Lorraine or a Mezzo

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For goodness sake chill out on 20:54 - Apr 10 with 995 viewslifelong

For goodness sake chill out on 11:49 - Apr 10 by perchrockjack

Lor

Apportioning blame is merely a release from pain.

Its all too evident what has happened


Fans are pretty much shell shocked . When one is traumatised,so to speak, its either schtum or scream.

I don't take defeat well, ever

What is the bitterest pill is that this debacle has been so unnecessary as we ve handled the initial hardest years then ,by utter incompetence, thrown it away.

Without doubt ,Swansea s biggest commercial calamity for many years.

People will lose jobs, the area, depressed already ,will lose further income and world wide profile YET some dot see this as a problem as they will be less "plastics" at games.

You talk about fans , that might be a problem actually as ,on here, there are clearly many who see themselves as top grade fans, better than others. I'm not sure any other club has this attitude.

You re either a fan or not, whether you are able to go to a game or not


So, if all fans were like you, there'd be no fecker at the games, but they'd still be fans... I get it, I think.
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For goodness sake chill out on 20:55 - Apr 10 with 984 viewsDarran

For goodness sake chill out on 20:54 - Apr 10 by lifelong

So, if all fans were like you, there'd be no fecker at the games, but they'd still be fans... I get it, I think.


The bloke needs to get his head checked out.

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For goodness sake chill out on 21:57 - Apr 10 with 939 viewsperchrockjack

But nobody is like me Rog


Nobody

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For goodness sake chill out on 22:05 - Apr 10 with 917 viewsLeonWasGod

For goodness sake chill out on 12:44 - Apr 10 by Swanseajill

Couldn't reply any sooner because the recent bout of adds for this site is screwing up simple replies.

Richie,I don't care if supporters are from Greenland or like, but I really can't believe that the horrible mess we are in is anything to do with our fans. We fill the stadium every home game, the away fans deserve praise for their efforts and support.

Taking your eye off the squad and the smooth running of the club, of buying and selling players for the good of the club, and not for the good of a balance sheet and share valuations is where the blame should lay.

We, as mere paying fans, can do little about it.


Indeed.

A few whinging tossers on here and twitter is neither here nor there.

The support in the stadium has been good (when there's been something to shout about). Each away game i've been to has been well suported. The fans are the least if the problem.

IF we are relegated though perchie isn't underestimating the impact on the city. It will be huge.
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For goodness sake chill out on 17:44 - Apr 12 with 775 viewsrock1n

For goodness sake chill out on 19:36 - Apr 9 by Starsky

Rockin my dear boy... I remember your rant on here after Bournemouth away few years back.
It was a classic.


Thanks for reminding me, the problem with your argument is that I was advocating something very similar just in a much younger, alcohol induced tone.

I was saying we need to get behind the team, so in many ways I've stayed true to my roots

I just feel we do revel in negativity at times, almost seek it out. I watched Palace the other night, everytime I watch them their support impresses me and it really is like a 12th man.

Maybe I'm an idealist, but I really do believe that when the sh1t hits the fan you get behind the team. That is true 'support' not just 'following' your team.

Something hilarious about being castigated as a modern glory hunting fan, my views are shaped by seeing my team nearly go bankrupt and get booted out of the league. I can't hate the people who saved us, I just can't. It doesn't make sense to me, just as I can't hate Roberto Martinez who was instrumental in both saving the club and elevating the club.

I don't see this as a 'crisis' far from it.
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For goodness sake chill out on 18:56 - Apr 12 with 750 viewsswan65split

For goodness sake chill out on 17:44 - Apr 12 by rock1n

Thanks for reminding me, the problem with your argument is that I was advocating something very similar just in a much younger, alcohol induced tone.

I was saying we need to get behind the team, so in many ways I've stayed true to my roots

I just feel we do revel in negativity at times, almost seek it out. I watched Palace the other night, everytime I watch them their support impresses me and it really is like a 12th man.

Maybe I'm an idealist, but I really do believe that when the sh1t hits the fan you get behind the team. That is true 'support' not just 'following' your team.

Something hilarious about being castigated as a modern glory hunting fan, my views are shaped by seeing my team nearly go bankrupt and get booted out of the league. I can't hate the people who saved us, I just can't. It doesn't make sense to me, just as I can't hate Roberto Martinez who was instrumental in both saving the club and elevating the club.

I don't see this as a 'crisis' far from it.
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Paragraph 5
Its business, clean or mucky , where theres muck theres Brass!

Martinez.......its football, wanting to be the best, and lets be honest its down to him in the first place our run and the football started, I remember my son comming home after his first few gaes in charge and drooling about the style of play we wereusing.

Sadly I feel the Swansea Way has gone, and will be laong time before it s back, if irt ever will, and part of our problem is ..weve lost that style and just another team, and a poor one at that.
Palace support was outstanding, but I wonder what it owuld have been like if they were down 2-0.
The north Bank Vetch days are also gone.
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