| What are our new investors doing? 10:02 - Jul 30 with 12829 views | Sheffieldjack |
Wolves are in for Anderson Talisca, a Brazilian striker, for £25 million. They are a Championship side who have just been backed by new investors. Meanwhile we are scraping the barrel with rumours about Peter Crouch and loan signings. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? |  | | |  |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:00 - Jul 30 with 1795 views | raynor94 |
| What are our new investors doing? on 10:56 - Jul 30 by magicdaps10 |
I dont care what other teams have not done and i dont fall for all that cack.
You should only worry about yourself and what you do. If we didnt need anything then great but we need to get moving on what we require and get them bedded in to the team ASAP. |
Seriously Daps do you honestly think we are not trying? As long as Gyfli and Ayew stay we will be fine, and I do think a striker will arrive before the window closes |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:03 - Jul 30 with 1782 views | magicdaps10 |
| What are our new investors doing? on 10:58 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
You do care what other clubs have done though. As per usual in every transfer window you've worked yourself up into a right old tizzy because you think other clubs are spending more and being more ambitious than we are.
Even in this very thread you're pointing to Wolves appointing Zenga and complaining that we seem stale whilst they're moving with the times. Your ability to completely contradict yourself within the space of a couple of sentences is Perchyesque. |
It depends whether you care about what they have actually spent their cash on or you are using them as an example on their intentions.
I m not saying we go out and spend 20M on Mr Anderson from Benfica. |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:03 - Jul 30 with 1778 views | Sheffieldjack |
| What are our new investors doing? on 10:59 - Jul 30 by longlostjack |
The question is whether the transfer budget is the same or less than last summer. So far the priority seem to be cutting the wage budget and Guido doesn't seem to be getting the backing that GM had. The next two weeks will tell. |
Exactly! The mood music coming from Guido and Alan is sombre and downbeat. Not exactly helpful at this stage in the transfer market. "The next two weeks will tell." I really hope that we get our act together. | | | |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:06 - Jul 30 with 1762 views | Dr_Winston |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:03 - Jul 30 by Sheffieldjack |
Exactly! The mood music coming from Guido and Alan is sombre and downbeat. Not exactly helpful at this stage in the transfer market. "The next two weeks will tell." I really hope that we get our act together. |
All transfer business has been a bit slow because of the Euros. Added to that we're at a bit of a disadvantage because of the takeover, and also, perhaps mainly, because Jenkins has never been the most proficient transfer market operator.
Whilst I'm still (increasingly tentatively) in favour of leaving Huwbert in overall charge, the case for a radical revamp of our scouting and acqusitions dept is becoming almost watertight. |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:07 - Jul 30 with 1759 views | Darran |
| What are our new investors doing? on 10:59 - Jul 30 by longlostjack |
The question is whether the transfer budget is the same or less than last summer. So far the priority seem to be cutting the wage budget and Guido doesn't seem to be getting the backing that GM had. The next two weeks will tell. |
The same or less than last summer?
Where the f*cks the money then we're supposed to be getting £150million this season why can't we spend £30million? |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:07 - Jul 30 with 1756 views | magicdaps10 |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:00 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
Seriously Daps do you honestly think we are not trying? As long as Gyfli and Ayew stay we will be fine, and I do think a striker will arrive before the window closes |
I would hope we are. We need to get moving on it that is for sure!
What worries me is that we dont get the deals over the lines for the players that will benefit us and we end up with Crouch or someone else who is just a panic buy.
We need to realise that the market is inflated at present and we need to push that little extra financially to get what we need.............we have too pay the going rate whether we like it or not. | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:09 - Jul 30 with 1742 views | magicdaps10 |
Out of curiosity, how much did we spend in the last two windows?
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What did we make with incomes in those two windows? | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:12 - Jul 30 with 1725 views | vetchonian |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:09 - Jul 30 by magicdaps10 |
Out of curiosity, how much did we spend in the last two windows?
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What did we make with incomes in those two windows? |
That was then this is now. The new era which was needed to take the club on. If it is still business as usual what was the point of the sale .......apart from to line individuals pockets | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:22 - Jul 30 with 1680 views | longlostjack |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:07 - Jul 30 by Darran |
The same or less than last summer?
Where the f*cks the money then we're supposed to be getting £150million this season why can't we spend £30million? |
No idea. I don't think the new owners even own any shopping malls in the States that need financing. |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:24 - Jul 30 with 1662 views | Dr_Winston |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:12 - Jul 30 by vetchonian |
That was then this is now. The new era which was needed to take the club on. If it is still business as usual what was the point of the sale .......apart from to line individuals pockets |
That was the point of the sale. The entire and only one. | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:26 - Jul 30 with 1650 views | MattG |
No concrete evidence for this suggestion but maybe Guidolin felt the squad was too big and would prefer to work more intensively with a smaller group. This would explain the trimming around the fringes (which - bar Gomis and Paloschi - is largely what it is).
And I am confident that, having let two first team strikers leave, we will be getting in at least one quality striker and at least one decent back-up sometime next week. |  | | |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:30 - Jul 30 with 1631 views | Loyal |
| What are our new investors doing? on 10:59 - Jul 30 by longlostjack |
The question is whether the transfer budget is the same or less than last summer. So far the priority seem to be cutting the wage budget and Guido doesn't seem to be getting the backing that GM had. The next two weeks will tell. |
I will give them to the end of next week then I think it's time to start the ball rolling. |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:31 - Jul 30 with 1619 views | Highjack |
£25 million for Anderson Talisca? The world has gone mad. |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:35 - Jul 30 with 1603 views | Jackofdreambeach |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:06 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
All transfer business has been a bit slow because of the Euros. Added to that we're at a bit of a disadvantage because of the takeover, and also, perhaps mainly, because Jenkins has never been the most proficient transfer market operator.
Whilst I'm still (increasingly tentatively) in favour of leaving Huwbert in overall charge, the case for a radical revamp of our scouting and acqusitions dept is becoming almost watertight. |
Euros and takeover should have been factored in and deals moved forward earlier. Reflects poorly on all involved. To be 2 friendly games away from Premier kick off with Mcburnie (a great prospect) the only striker is staggering. Would agree on the radical overhaul of scouting and acquisition resource. Many thought Gomis,Eder and Ayew was enough firepower last season. it fell well short. Would agree with Curt. Time for a major signing or two or three. | | | |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:36 - Jul 30 with 1599 views | Dr_Winston |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:35 - Jul 30 by Jackofdreambeach |
Euros and takeover should have been factored in and deals moved forward earlier. Reflects poorly on all involved. To be 2 friendly games away from Premier kick off with Mcburnie (a great prospect) the only striker is staggering. Would agree on the radical overhaul of scouting and acquisition resource. Many thought Gomis,Eder and Ayew was enough firepower last season. it fell well short. Would agree with Curt. Time for a major signing or two or three. |
Gomis, Eder and Ayew was enough firepower last season. It was management where we fell short. | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:37 - Jul 30 with 1515 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:00 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
Seriously Daps do you honestly think we are not trying? As long as Gyfli and Ayew stay we will be fine, and I do think a striker will arrive before the window closes |
You want to check out the Llorente thread.......... |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:38 - Jul 30 with 1514 views | Highjack |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:36 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
Gomis, Eder and Ayew was enough firepower last season. It was management where we fell short. |
And service to said firepower was lacking or non existent | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:45 - Jul 30 with 1487 views | magicdaps10 |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:38 - Jul 30 by Highjack |
And service to said firepower was lacking or non existent |
I think Ayew not being an out and out winger was a big issue early on in the season.
The way we set up was with wingers aiming to supply a frontman and Gilfy playing off the front man and linking play with the wingers. Ayew was intent on getting into the box and coming more centrally both with or without the ball. | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:47 - Jul 30 with 1476 views | MattG |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:45 - Jul 30 by magicdaps10 |
I think Ayew not being an out and out winger was a big issue early on in the season.
The way we set up was with wingers aiming to supply a frontman and Gilfy playing off the front man and linking play with the wingers. Ayew was intent on getting into the box and coming more centrally both with or without the ball. |
If we signed Ayew on the understanding that he was an out-and-out winger then someone got their wires badly crossed.
Not saying it didn't happen, more that it shouldn't have. | | | |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:50 - Jul 30 with 1457 views | Dr_Winston |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:45 - Jul 30 by magicdaps10 |
I think Ayew not being an out and out winger was a big issue early on in the season.
The way we set up was with wingers aiming to supply a frontman and Gilfy playing off the front man and linking play with the wingers. Ayew was intent on getting into the box and coming more centrally both with or without the ball. |
There was absolutely no intention of using wingers to supply a frontman. We always played far too narrow for that. Jack Cork was often the widest on the right FFS. | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:50 - Jul 30 with 1457 views | magicdaps10 |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:47 - Jul 30 by MattG |
If we signed Ayew on the understanding that he was an out-and-out winger then someone got their wires badly crossed.
Not saying it didn't happen, more that it shouldn't have. |
He was signed on the basis that we had to get more goals from other departments aside from the striker. It seems that they thought bringing him in as a winger would do that and it did, what they did not bank on was it would unbalance the team to the level it did.
Ayew will score goals so striker is his best position in our tem at present. Ayew's main aim in his head is to score and not create. | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 11:54 - Jul 30 with 1442 views | airedale |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:24 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
That was the point of the sale. The entire and only one. |
Disagree a bit there, if I had been in their position, coming from running a tin pot club to the glare and pressure of the PL, combined with their age and their business commitments outside the club, it would have been an opportunity too good to miss.
No disrespect to the previous incumbents, but they could have been construed as being out of their comfort zone (by a long way), and could justifiably thought that the business (club) would be better served by people with the wherewithal to run it to its maximum potential. |  | | |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:59 - Jul 30 with 1422 views | Highjack |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:45 - Jul 30 by magicdaps10 |
I think Ayew not being an out and out winger was a big issue early on in the season.
The way we set up was with wingers aiming to supply a frontman and Gilfy playing off the front man and linking play with the wingers. Ayew was intent on getting into the box and coming more centrally both with or without the ball. |
The biggest issue was an out of form yet seemingly undroppable Jonjo Shelvey pinging constant 500 yard passes out of the stadium. | |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 13:01 - Jul 30 with 1268 views | Flashberryjack |
| What are our new investors doing? on 10:51 - Jul 30 by Dr_Winston |
It was clear from day one. |
It certainly was,. it's just that some couldn't/wouldn't see it.
Basiically this club is a dead man walking, but not one that's will see a swift death at the hands of the executioner, but a slow lingering death as all the blood is sucked out of it .
RIP |  |
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| What are our new investors doing? on 13:23 - Jul 30 with 1213 views | Borojack |
| What are our new investors doing? on 11:26 - Jul 30 by MattG |
No concrete evidence for this suggestion but maybe Guidolin felt the squad was too big and would prefer to work more intensively with a smaller group. This would explain the trimming around the fringes (which - bar Gomis and Paloschi - is largely what it is).
And I am confident that, having let two first team strikers leave, we will be getting in at least one quality striker and at least one decent back-up sometime next week. |
We let 3 first team strikers go Eder as well.
Skippys post re the players we have shipped out on the Gorre thread certainly got me thinking about asset stripping.
Worrying times. |  |
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