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Well done China! 22:25 - Jun 5 with 9651 viewsSwanzay

Great that the US has been breached, 'kettle black' springs to mind, long may it continue!

The US says it faces a "dedicated adversary" and an "ever evolving threat" to the nation's cyber security, after a major data breach.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33028158

The US is not some sort of idyllic ideal, as some politicians would have you believe!



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Well done China! on 16:47 - Jun 6 with 2072 viewscontroversial_jack

Well done China! on 10:58 - Jun 6 by dgt73

Russia & China are backward countries - no doubt have strong armed forces - but most of their technology was given / stolen from the west - and that was how the former USSR acquired nuclear weapons.
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Not really. The US took lots of aircraft technology from Russia during the 80s, and Russia still has far better fighter aircraft and missiles then the US does
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Well done China! on 16:51 - Jun 6 with 2062 viewscontroversial_jack

Well done China! on 07:26 - Jun 6 by dgt73

Russia & China worlds police force ? Where ? The Yanks are still the top dogs, make no mistake about that.


There are billions of consumers in the world, who don't buy American products. American technology and science is not needed as it can be had elsewhere.The US was not invited to the recent talks in Minsk between the Russians and the EU.American influence is not what it was
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Well done China! on 16:53 - Jun 6 with 2062 viewsItchySphincter

Russia and America divieed up the German scientists after the Second World War.

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Well done China! on 16:53 - Jun 6 with 2060 viewscontroversial_jack

Well done China! on 11:36 - Jun 6 by tomdickharry

Try undertaking an austerity rally in Red Square,you'd get as far as a prison in the far reaches of China never to be seen again. If it wasn't for the might of the USA the fee world would be under the jack boot,ever see that brilliant TV series the Pacific,pretty accurate account of what the US forces went through, have a look at the battle on an island called Peleliu,frightening.


It was nothing compared to what British and Indian forces had to endure defeating 2 entire Jap armies in Burma
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Well done China! on 16:58 - Jun 6 with 2044 viewsSwanzay

Well done China! on 16:53 - Jun 6 by controversial_jack

It was nothing compared to what British and Indian forces had to endure defeating 2 entire Jap armies in Burma


You might have missed it, but the US just agreed that Edward Snowden was right....

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/you-might-have-missed-it-but-the-us-just-a
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Well done China! on 17:41 - Jun 6 with 2007 viewsFlashberryjack

Well done China! on 16:58 - Jun 6 by Swanzay

You might have missed it, but the US just agreed that Edward Snowden was right....

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/you-might-have-missed-it-but-the-us-just-a


Wow! you mean to tell me that the USA have a surveillance programme that collects meta data and calling records.......the bast*rds.

At least were safe in the knowledge that Russia and China wouldn't do such a thing.
Well done Russia & China the two greatest nation for upholding freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of press, human rights and not to mention data security.

Oh! for the day when the nasty Americans are deposed as the mighty world power by Russia and China....maybe then we can all sleep soundly in our beds at night.

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Well done China! on 17:59 - Jun 6 with 1990 viewsperchrockjack

So, the people to trust are the Russians, who carved up Eastern Europe forvtheirvown ends post war and China who s human rights record ain't that great.

Fact is America is to be trusted more than Russians and Chinese.

Quite why Putin is seen bunkum own as a hero, in the same way as Brezhnev and co is ,to me, syntactic if just how warped some leftie, socialist, communist supporters are.

USA ain't perfect but by god I lol have them as chums before the scum that are Russians and
D as I say talk to anyone who had a family split at the end of the last war in Berlin.

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Well done China! on 23:47 - Jun 6 with 1945 viewscentrestandswan

Had a very good Hungarian friend ,not with us now, who had the misfortune of being shot at by the Nazis and years later by the Communists had the bullet wound in his head to prove it. Now those are tough experiences .

China is the one to be wary of their human rights record is terrible no regard for its' own people let alone animals.

As for the USA it is as the name implies united states all with their own unique foibles and qualities. California in the west and NY in the east being the bastions of liberalism and the mid-west being more conservative in their views . Simplistic view of a very complex country. You all out there just have a look at your CD collections bet there aren't too many Chinese and Russian albums there. Long live Rock and Roll.

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Well done China! on 05:21 - Jun 7 with 1918 viewsphact0rri

Well done China! on 23:47 - Jun 6 by centrestandswan

Had a very good Hungarian friend ,not with us now, who had the misfortune of being shot at by the Nazis and years later by the Communists had the bullet wound in his head to prove it. Now those are tough experiences .

China is the one to be wary of their human rights record is terrible no regard for its' own people let alone animals.

As for the USA it is as the name implies united states all with their own unique foibles and qualities. California in the west and NY in the east being the bastions of liberalism and the mid-west being more conservative in their views . Simplistic view of a very complex country. You all out there just have a look at your CD collections bet there aren't too many Chinese and Russian albums there. Long live Rock and Roll.


to be fair mate... california as a whole is not so liberal.. quite the opposite. southern california sure, but most of the state is pretty conservative.

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Well done China! on 07:03 - Jun 7 with 1912 viewsLohengrin

Well done China! on 23:47 - Jun 6 by centrestandswan

Had a very good Hungarian friend ,not with us now, who had the misfortune of being shot at by the Nazis and years later by the Communists had the bullet wound in his head to prove it. Now those are tough experiences .

China is the one to be wary of their human rights record is terrible no regard for its' own people let alone animals.

As for the USA it is as the name implies united states all with their own unique foibles and qualities. California in the west and NY in the east being the bastions of liberalism and the mid-west being more conservative in their views . Simplistic view of a very complex country. You all out there just have a look at your CD collections bet there aren't too many Chinese and Russian albums there. Long live Rock and Roll.


I'm curious now. When you said your friend had been shot at by "Nazis" are you talking about actual German soldiers or members of the Hungarian Arrow Cross? Hungary, as you no doubt know, was allied with Germany. Did he elaborate on the circumstances?

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Well done China! on 09:27 - Jun 7 with 1881 viewsperchrockjack

Loh
Morning
Like Romania was and Finland too who d been left alone shamefully to neat off a Russian invasion, yep another invasion, and no doubt could have been a natural aversion to communism and Russia .

I know many Croatians supported Nazi Germany mainly because Serbia was and is always looking over to the East to mother Russia.

have good day Sir

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Well done China! on 16:16 - Jun 7 with 1829 viewscontroversial_jack

Well done China! on 17:59 - Jun 6 by perchrockjack

So, the people to trust are the Russians, who carved up Eastern Europe forvtheirvown ends post war and China who s human rights record ain't that great.

Fact is America is to be trusted more than Russians and Chinese.

Quite why Putin is seen bunkum own as a hero, in the same way as Brezhnev and co is ,to me, syntactic if just how warped some leftie, socialist, communist supporters are.

USA ain't perfect but by god I lol have them as chums before the scum that are Russians and
D as I say talk to anyone who had a family split at the end of the last war in Berlin.


You don't trust Russia, the country that defeated the NAZI and drove them out of Europe, but trust the country that has been at war for 92% of it's time in existence, has military bases in more than 150 countries, jails more of it's own people than any other country on earth and has the biggest surveillance program of not just it's own citizens but other as well.

Good luck with that trust mate, just hope it doesn't bite you on your ass
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Well done China! on 20:50 - Jun 7 with 1776 viewscentrestandswan

Well done China! on 07:03 - Jun 7 by Lohengrin

I'm curious now. When you said your friend had been shot at by "Nazis" are you talking about actual German soldiers or members of the Hungarian Arrow Cross? Hungary, as you no doubt know, was allied with Germany. Did he elaborate on the circumstances?


He was running too ph u k ing fast to ask for details. with the greatest respects.

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Well done China! on 21:55 - Jun 7 with 1747 viewsperchrockjack

Russia signed a pact with the nazis to start with and only turned cheek for their own ends and mot to help us.

Their treatment of their own people is as appalling as it gets

You d holiday in Russia before USA then.

We have nothing in common with Russia and our culture is inextricably linked with North America.

Holidays in Odessa then.

Just staggering.

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Well done China! on 21:57 - Jun 7 with 1745 viewsDr_Winston

I suspect a few of the people praising Russia and China would be amongst the first to disappear into the gulags if it came to it.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Well done China! on 22:03 - Jun 7 with 1665 viewsperchrockjack

It beggars belief we have seemingly so many who cream themselves over the most inward looking, racist and venal countries on earth.

Supporting Russia is simply reactionary crap.

They are masters in corruption .

Yanks are angels in comparison and frankly I believe this is a windup so good night

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Well done China! on 22:07 - Jun 7 with 1663 viewsDarran

Well done China! on 21:57 - Jun 7 by Dr_Winston

I suspect a few of the people praising Russia and China would be amongst the first to disappear into the gulags if it came to it.


Too true J.

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Well done China! on 22:11 - Jun 7 with 1655 viewsSwanzay

Well done China! on 22:07 - Jun 7 by Darran

Too true J.


What are your real thoughts on this real issue Daz, are America right to blame 'China'?
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Well done China! on 22:15 - Jun 7 with 1645 viewsDarran

Well done China! on 22:11 - Jun 7 by Swanzay

What are your real thoughts on this real issue Daz, are America right to blame 'China'?
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Yes if they believe China did it.

What you reckon they should do believe China a did it and blame the Faroe Islands?

Thick tw*t.

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Well done China! on 22:33 - Jun 7 with 1630 viewsSwanzay

Well done China! on 22:15 - Jun 7 by Darran

Yes if they believe China did it.

What you reckon they should do believe China a did it and blame the Faroe Islands?

Thick tw*t.


Your gullibility knows no bounds, as ive said previously you will believe anyone in 'authority' without question and this thread proves it.
Alas I wont lower myself to insults, as thats the non educated reponse as you again prove time and time again..
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Well done China! on 22:47 - Jun 7 with 1620 viewsLohengrin

Well done China! on 20:50 - Jun 7 by centrestandswan

He was running too ph u k ing fast to ask for details. with the greatest respects.


I'm completely baffled as to why he'd have been shot at?

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Well done China! on 23:18 - Jun 7 with 1604 viewsLohengrin

Well done China! on 09:27 - Jun 7 by perchrockjack

Loh
Morning
Like Romania was and Finland too who d been left alone shamefully to neat off a Russian invasion, yep another invasion, and no doubt could have been a natural aversion to communism and Russia .

I know many Croatians supported Nazi Germany mainly because Serbia was and is always looking over to the East to mother Russia.

have good day Sir


For us to have found ourselves on the opposing side to Finland in the last war is something quite shameful, I think. It's hugely embarrassing,; I know that Churchill felt that keenly as did Hoare, Halifax and Eden as revealed in their published memoirs.

I've often thought what my personal stance would have been in the last war, Perch, had I been of that generation. It goes without saying that I would have fought to defend these islands from any adversary, whoever they were if we were attacked, but I'm not at all convinced that I could have stomached aiding the communists.

Stalin was the Devil. The equation is that simple. If you knowingly abet evil what does that make us? Blind acceptance that Britain's participation in the last European war was "Just" is somewhat fanciful. It seems to me that the accepted history of 1939-45, the officially authorised accepted line regurgitated and blindly acknowledged today is remarkably different from the reality of yesteryear.

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Well done China! on 23:23 - Jun 7 with 1599 viewsDarran

Well done China! on 23:18 - Jun 7 by Lohengrin

For us to have found ourselves on the opposing side to Finland in the last war is something quite shameful, I think. It's hugely embarrassing,; I know that Churchill felt that keenly as did Hoare, Halifax and Eden as revealed in their published memoirs.

I've often thought what my personal stance would have been in the last war, Perch, had I been of that generation. It goes without saying that I would have fought to defend these islands from any adversary, whoever they were if we were attacked, but I'm not at all convinced that I could have stomached aiding the communists.

Stalin was the Devil. The equation is that simple. If you knowingly abet evil what does that make us? Blind acceptance that Britain's participation in the last European war was "Just" is somewhat fanciful. It seems to me that the accepted history of 1939-45, the officially authorised accepted line regurgitated and blindly acknowledged today is remarkably different from the reality of yesteryear.


Well you wouldn't have been driving around in the sun with your roof down listening to shit music that's for sure.

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Well done China! on 23:23 - Jun 7 with 1598 viewsjackonicko

Well done China! on 21:55 - Jun 7 by perchrockjack

Russia signed a pact with the nazis to start with and only turned cheek for their own ends and mot to help us.

Their treatment of their own people is as appalling as it gets

You d holiday in Russia before USA then.

We have nothing in common with Russia and our culture is inextricably linked with North America.

Holidays in Odessa then.

Just staggering.


I'd go back to St Petersburg long before returning to any European city, and probably just about every US one (except maybe DC as I love it there.)

Moscow isn't a bad trip either.

Russia isn't a bad place. Its politicians, less so!
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Well done China! on 23:28 - Jun 7 with 1591 viewsLohengrin

Well done China! on 23:23 - Jun 7 by Darran

Well you wouldn't have been driving around in the sun with your roof down listening to shit music that's for sure.


I think I'd have been driving around in a British made car with a British manufactured CD blasting out of British manufactured speakers if it wasn't for the last war and the spiral of calamity it engendered, Daz.

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