| Trump and Vance 18:21 - Feb 28 with 6886 views | raynor94 |
Unbelievable scenes in the White House, both accusing Zelensky of being disrespectful and starting World War 3.
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| Trump and Vance on 11:56 - Mar 3 with 1034 views | Scotia |
| Trump and Vance on 11:45 - Mar 3 by mangohilljack |
You call me gullible, yet you have no idea what you’re talking about—you’re just making it up as you go along.
If you had even the slightest awareness of how ridiculous your posts make you look, you’d be avoiding this thread like the plague.
But please, by all means, carry on—it’s honestly quite entertaining to watch. |
So how does a Texan DJ / Karate instructor know what happened betwwen Zelensky, Trump and Vance? |  | | |
| Trump and Vance on 12:27 - Mar 3 with 967 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 11:56 - Mar 3 by Scotia |
So how does a Texan DJ / Karate instructor know what happened betwwen Zelensky, Trump and Vance? |
You seem to know far more about this Texan DJ/Karate instructor than I do—after all, you were the one who brought him into the conversation.
Maybe you should ask him yourself, and once you’ve got your answers, feel free to come back and enlighten us. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 13:39 - Mar 3 with 914 views | Scotia |
| Trump and Vance on 12:27 - Mar 3 by mangohilljack |
You seem to know far more about this Texan DJ/Karate instructor than I do—after all, you were the one who brought him into the conversation.
Maybe you should ask him yourself, and once you’ve got your answers, feel free to come back and enlighten us. |
No I wasn't, you did. You just didn't realise it. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 13:49 - Mar 3 with 889 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 13:39 - Mar 3 by Scotia |
No I wasn't, you did. You just didn't realise it. |
You’ve completely lost the plot. Weak, incoherent responses sprinkled with a dash of fabrication—hardly a compelling argument.
Do the honourable thing and leave the adult discussions to those who can actually engage in them. [Post edited 3 Mar 13:50]
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| Trump and Vance on 16:11 - Mar 3 with 833 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Trump and Vance on 10:01 - Mar 3 by controversial_jack |
This is correct. He didn't stand up to them he got bullied and humiliated.
He walked away from peace talks 2 years ago after pressure from Johnson. He should have stood up to him then. He's a weak man who has kept this conflict going.
He's had a fortune from the west and NATO and it hasn't made the slightest bit of difference to the outcome. He has stated he won't pay back a cent. The arrogance of this man is astounding. Even Britain had to pay back it's wartime debt to the Yanks, yet this guy thinks it's for free. There's nothing for free with the Yanks - who are the real villains in this proxy war. . He's been played like a fish |
Do you realise Ukraine has recovered 70,000 sq Km from Russia since the 2022 Istanbul talks.? This is an area of the size of Scotland. If they accepted peace then Kherson and Izyum would still be Russian.
In Kharkov Russians are invading areas for the second time and losing 100s of troops every day. They have taken some of that back but lost some of their own land too near Suzdja. |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 19:23 - Mar 3 with 739 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Trump and Vance on 13:49 - Mar 3 by mangohilljack |
You’ve completely lost the plot. Weak, incoherent responses sprinkled with a dash of fabrication—hardly a compelling argument.
Do the honourable thing and leave the adult discussions to those who can actually engage in them. [Post edited 3 Mar 13:50]
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Seems like nonsense from you to be fair, Scotia has you and instead of giving a link to verify what you say you go "ad hominem" on Scotia.
The rest is dissembling and diversion which you do a lot of.
You've been given some rope and now you hanged yourself.
You'd best stick with the Texan DJ, he believes the same nonsense you do. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 21:20 - Mar 3 with 677 views | controversial_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 16:11 - Mar 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Do you realise Ukraine has recovered 70,000 sq Km from Russia since the 2022 Istanbul talks.? This is an area of the size of Scotland. If they accepted peace then Kherson and Izyum would still be Russian.
In Kharkov Russians are invading areas for the second time and losing 100s of troops every day. They have taken some of that back but lost some of their own land too near Suzdja. |
They haven't taken anything like that, Ukranian troops are under pressure everywhere and losing ground and troops daily | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 23:52 - Mar 3 with 615 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Trump and Vance on 21:20 - Mar 3 by controversial_jack |
They haven't taken anything like that, Ukranian troops are under pressure everywhere and losing ground and troops daily |
Russians are so stupid. They loss 1000s of troops invading farmland not once but twice. Bahkmut took them a year and Avdiivka another year now Proprosk. Two towns turned to dust. and a third under the sights of Russian cannons. No one liberated they have all left.
Putin left $ 300 billion in Belgium. Europe do not really want to use this money but if Trump pulls out they will. Oops what an horrendous error by the big man $ 300 billion good grief. $ 60 billion for 5 years or $ 30 bill for 10 years. They can vaporise a lot of Russians with that sort of money.
Hard to see how Putin has any fanboys at all but he does.He smiles at his poisoning exploits which a seems particularly cowardly. Some poisoning was within 2 hours of Swansea killing a British citizen.
Trump was "disrespected" by another president who warned him not to trust the great poisoner who does not honour his agreements. This is the man that wants to make Canada the 51 at state and annex parts of Denmark not ruling out force. People need to stop taking him as a joke. [Post edited 4 Mar 0:06]
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| Trump and Vance on 01:49 - Mar 4 with 586 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 19:23 - Mar 3 by SullutaCreturned |
Seems like nonsense from you to be fair, Scotia has you and instead of giving a link to verify what you say you go "ad hominem" on Scotia.
The rest is dissembling and diversion which you do a lot of.
You've been given some rope and now you hanged yourself.
You'd best stick with the Texan DJ, he believes the same nonsense you do. |
If you think I have the time or inclination to do your research for you, think again. It’s not my job to educate you—especially when the facts are readily available to anyone willing to look beyond the mainstream narrative.
You can continue unknowingly supporting those driving us toward World War III and global destruction, while I’ll keep standing with those working toward genuine peace.
At least I’ll be able to sleep at night, knowing I was on the right side of history—can you say the same? | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 06:16 - Mar 4 with 554 views | Scotia |
| Trump and Vance on 01:49 - Mar 4 by mangohilljack |
If you think I have the time or inclination to do your research for you, think again. It’s not my job to educate you—especially when the facts are readily available to anyone willing to look beyond the mainstream narrative.
You can continue unknowingly supporting those driving us toward World War III and global destruction, while I’ll keep standing with those working toward genuine peace.
At least I’ll be able to sleep at night, knowing I was on the right side of history—can you say the same? |
So what research did you do before copy and pasting DJ Michael's blog? | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 06:38 - Mar 4 with 543 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 06:16 - Mar 4 by Scotia |
So what research did you do before copy and pasting DJ Michael's blog? |
Refer to my previous post above, save me posting it again.
Ta | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 08:47 - Mar 4 with 488 views | onehunglow |
| Trump and Vance on 23:52 - Mar 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Russians are so stupid. They loss 1000s of troops invading farmland not once but twice. Bahkmut took them a year and Avdiivka another year now Proprosk. Two towns turned to dust. and a third under the sights of Russian cannons. No one liberated they have all left.
Putin left $ 300 billion in Belgium. Europe do not really want to use this money but if Trump pulls out they will. Oops what an horrendous error by the big man $ 300 billion good grief. $ 60 billion for 5 years or $ 30 bill for 10 years. They can vaporise a lot of Russians with that sort of money.
Hard to see how Putin has any fanboys at all but he does.He smiles at his poisoning exploits which a seems particularly cowardly. Some poisoning was within 2 hours of Swansea killing a British citizen.
Trump was "disrespected" by another president who warned him not to trust the great poisoner who does not honour his agreements. This is the man that wants to make Canada the 51 at state and annex parts of Denmark not ruling out force. People need to stop taking him as a joke. [Post edited 4 Mar 0:06]
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| Trump and Vance on 09:20 - Mar 4 with 448 views | Scotia |
| Trump and Vance on 06:38 - Mar 4 by mangohilljack |
Refer to my previous post above, save me posting it again.
Ta |
Which post?
The one that begins with this sentence "Are you serious?! I had never even heard of DJ Michael until you brought him up!"?
I've never seen any evidence of any reserach in anything you type, the only evidence I have noticed is that your are incapable of independent thought. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 11:05 - Mar 4 with 371 views | union_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 01:49 - Mar 4 by mangohilljack |
If you think I have the time or inclination to do your research for you, think again. It’s not my job to educate you—especially when the facts are readily available to anyone willing to look beyond the mainstream narrative.
You can continue unknowingly supporting those driving us toward World War III and global destruction, while I’ll keep standing with those working toward genuine peace.
At least I’ll be able to sleep at night, knowing I was on the right side of history—can you say the same? |
It’s very easy to have peace if you cede your land without retaliating against a bully.
Sadly, that’s not how it works.
I don’t know what sort of person Zelenskyy is nor at this point do I care. What I do know is that Putin is the aggressor and cannot be allowed to continue land grabbing by force. If peace is wanted the way to that is by him withdrawing. Then look to see if those areas want I be part of Russia or Ukraine through democratic processes.
As Res perfectly put it above, how can Putin, a dictator and a bully, be admired and rendered blameless in all of this by his fanboys?! |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 11:23 - Mar 4 with 360 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 09:20 - Mar 4 by Scotia |
Which post?
The one that begins with this sentence "Are you serious?! I had never even heard of DJ Michael until you brought him up!"?
I've never seen any evidence of any reserach in anything you type, the only evidence I have noticed is that your are incapable of independent thought. |
Instead of fabricating lies and obsessively referring to DJ Michael—someone you introduced into this conversation, not me—perhaps you could try something novel: posting a constructive response that actually challenges my argument.
My bet? You can’t. Because the reality is, you have no real understanding of what’s happening in the world. Instead, you resort to petty, baseless rants that only expose you for the clueless clown that you are.
Now, either come back with something of substance, or I’ll have no choice but to ignore you—just as I’m sure everyone else is tired of reading your inane drivel. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 11:42 - Mar 4 with 346 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 11:05 - Mar 4 by union_jack |
It’s very easy to have peace if you cede your land without retaliating against a bully.
Sadly, that’s not how it works.
I don’t know what sort of person Zelenskyy is nor at this point do I care. What I do know is that Putin is the aggressor and cannot be allowed to continue land grabbing by force. If peace is wanted the way to that is by him withdrawing. Then look to see if those areas want I be part of Russia or Ukraine through democratic processes.
As Res perfectly put it above, how can Putin, a dictator and a bully, be admired and rendered blameless in all of this by his fanboys?! |
I sincerely hope you’re not suggesting that I’m some kind of Putin fanboy—because nothing could be further from the truth. If you insist on labelling me, at least be accurate about it.
The fact that you genuinely believe Putin is the sole aggressor only proves one thing: you know absolutely nothing about the history of Russia and Ukraine. Instead of doing your own research, you blindly parrot whatever mainstream media feeds you—never once questioning their constant stream of lies and omissions.
Since you talk about democratic processes, let’s take a trip down memory lane:
2004: The CIA-backed Orange Revolution overturned an election result that favoured a pro-Russian candidate.
2014: Ukraine’s democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, rejected an EU trade deal that would have devastated Ukraine’s economy. This was unacceptable to Washington, so they orchestrated a Western-backed coup—the so-called "Maidan Revolution"—to remove him. If you need to look it up, I suggest you do.
So, for the record: I am no fan of Putin—in any way, shape, or form. But I am a fan of the truth and exposing the lies and propaganda pushed by corrupt governments and media—lies that far too many programmed people around the world continue to swallow without question.
If people don’t take off their blinkers and recognise this deception for what it is, we’re only heading in one direction—and I’m sure I don’t need to spell out what that means. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 11:47 - Mar 4 with 340 views | controversial_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 11:42 - Mar 4 by mangohilljack |
I sincerely hope you’re not suggesting that I’m some kind of Putin fanboy—because nothing could be further from the truth. If you insist on labelling me, at least be accurate about it.
The fact that you genuinely believe Putin is the sole aggressor only proves one thing: you know absolutely nothing about the history of Russia and Ukraine. Instead of doing your own research, you blindly parrot whatever mainstream media feeds you—never once questioning their constant stream of lies and omissions.
Since you talk about democratic processes, let’s take a trip down memory lane:
2004: The CIA-backed Orange Revolution overturned an election result that favoured a pro-Russian candidate.
2014: Ukraine’s democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, rejected an EU trade deal that would have devastated Ukraine’s economy. This was unacceptable to Washington, so they orchestrated a Western-backed coup—the so-called "Maidan Revolution"—to remove him. If you need to look it up, I suggest you do.
So, for the record: I am no fan of Putin—in any way, shape, or form. But I am a fan of the truth and exposing the lies and propaganda pushed by corrupt governments and media—lies that far too many programmed people around the world continue to swallow without question.
If people don’t take off their blinkers and recognise this deception for what it is, we’re only heading in one direction—and I’m sure I don’t need to spell out what that means. |
The problem is, most just look at the mainstream and don't delve any deeper.
They follow the tired old cold war agendas and don't look at realpolitik | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 11:54 - Mar 4 with 323 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 11:47 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack |
The problem is, most just look at the mainstream and don't delve any deeper.
They follow the tired old cold war agendas and don't look at realpolitik |
That’s absolutely correct.
Society has become incredibly lazy—far too lazy. People no longer think critically, question narratives, or seek out the truth for themselves. Instead, they passively consume whatever is spoon-fed to them.
It’s no surprise that we’re in such a mess. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 12:04 - Mar 4 with 309 views | union_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 11:54 - Mar 4 by mangohilljack |
That’s absolutely correct.
Society has become incredibly lazy—far too lazy. People no longer think critically, question narratives, or seek out the truth for themselves. Instead, they passively consume whatever is spoon-fed to them.
It’s no surprise that we’re in such a mess. |
Regardless of past events, Russia rolled its tanks into Ukraine in a bid to retake land and are therefore the aggressors. Is this right?
The Ukrainian people are fighting to get THEIR land back from a tyrannical dictator? Is this right?
Wouldn’t the best process be for there to be a referendum in the areas occupied by ethnic Russians to determine if such areas return to Russian control? Would you agree?
Why is Putin doing this and would it encourage him doing more in the future if it’s that easy!?
If you are saying that this is all Zelenskyy’s / Ukraine’s doing and that they deserved to be invaded aggressively then say so and give the reasons.
Are you in agreement retrospectively with the Nazis invading Czechoslovakia in 1938 as part of the lebensraum project and bringing German Czechs back into Germany? It’s the same thing.
Don’t complicate matters trying to be clever (although you’ll find that difficult I know). Just stick to what’s happened in the last few years and then tell us whether you believe the action taken is justified. [Post edited 4 Mar 12:09]
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| Trump and Vance on 12:07 - Mar 4 with 303 views | Scotia |
| Trump and Vance on 11:23 - Mar 4 by mangohilljack |
Instead of fabricating lies and obsessively referring to DJ Michael—someone you introduced into this conversation, not me—perhaps you could try something novel: posting a constructive response that actually challenges my argument.
My bet? You can’t. Because the reality is, you have no real understanding of what’s happening in the world. Instead, you resort to petty, baseless rants that only expose you for the clueless clown that you are.
Now, either come back with something of substance, or I’ll have no choice but to ignore you—just as I’m sure everyone else is tired of reading your inane drivel. |
What have I fabricated?
You copy and pasted something written by a party DJ from Texas. You didn't know it at the time because you only post what other people tell you. You don't seem to have your own opinions - someone gives them to you and you don't have the critical mind to evaluate them. They may not coem from the so called mainstream media but some nutcase on the web.
You introduced DJ Michael but you didn't know you had. It sums you up.
That article just paraphrased the obvious to a naive audience. It was the opinion of a nobody. It included nothing new apart from making up a load nonsense about Zelensky going to the White House to try and influence Trump and Vance to allow them to join NATO and them not allowing it. They've been unsuccesful in attempts to join NATo for decades for obvious reasons - they'll never be able to join with the current Russian leadership in place.
Let's be honest, you've got no choice but to ignore me. You post rubbish, racism or antisemitism. I call it out. You can't respond sensibly so you ignore or the thread gets pulled. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 12:24 - Mar 4 with 280 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 12:04 - Mar 4 by union_jack |
Regardless of past events, Russia rolled its tanks into Ukraine in a bid to retake land and are therefore the aggressors. Is this right?
The Ukrainian people are fighting to get THEIR land back from a tyrannical dictator? Is this right?
Wouldn’t the best process be for there to be a referendum in the areas occupied by ethnic Russians to determine if such areas return to Russian control? Would you agree?
Why is Putin doing this and would it encourage him doing more in the future if it’s that easy!?
If you are saying that this is all Zelenskyy’s / Ukraine’s doing and that they deserved to be invaded aggressively then say so and give the reasons.
Are you in agreement retrospectively with the Nazis invading Czechoslovakia in 1938 as part of the lebensraum project and bringing German Czechs back into Germany? It’s the same thing.
Don’t complicate matters trying to be clever (although you’ll find that difficult I know). Just stick to what’s happened in the last few years and then tell us whether you believe the action taken is justified. [Post edited 4 Mar 12:09]
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Yes, Russia did roll its tanks into Ukraine—that’s undeniable. But the real question is: why? Those who truly understand the history will tell you that it was driven by two key factors:
1️⃣ To stop the ethnic cleansing in the Donbass region, where Ukrainian forces had been shelling civilians for eight years.
2️⃣ To prevent NATO from turning Ukraine into a military base, threatening Russia’s security.
And while we’re on the topic—are you aware that gangs of thugs, so-called ‘body snatchers,’ are roaming the streets of Ukraine, beating young men and forcing them to the front lines? Is that something you consider acceptable?
You keep bringing up referendums—so let’s talk about them:
🔹 In Crimea, over 90% of voters chose to return to Russia in a referendum.
🔹 In Donbass, the people declared independence, yet Kyiv refused to let them go. Instead of respecting their choice, Ukraine waged war against its own citizens, shelling civilians for years.
Where was the Western outrage then? Nowhere to be seen.
As for Putin, he would be a fool to provoke a NATO member, and there is no credible evidence that he has any intention of doing so.
And let’s be absolutely clear—I’m not trying to be clever. I’m simply stating the facts. Even if I focused only on recent years, the reality of this situation would remain the same. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 12:33 - Mar 4 with 254 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 12:07 - Mar 4 by Scotia |
What have I fabricated?
You copy and pasted something written by a party DJ from Texas. You didn't know it at the time because you only post what other people tell you. You don't seem to have your own opinions - someone gives them to you and you don't have the critical mind to evaluate them. They may not coem from the so called mainstream media but some nutcase on the web.
You introduced DJ Michael but you didn't know you had. It sums you up.
That article just paraphrased the obvious to a naive audience. It was the opinion of a nobody. It included nothing new apart from making up a load nonsense about Zelensky going to the White House to try and influence Trump and Vance to allow them to join NATO and them not allowing it. They've been unsuccesful in attempts to join NATo for decades for obvious reasons - they'll never be able to join with the current Russian leadership in place.
Let's be honest, you've got no choice but to ignore me. You post rubbish, racism or antisemitism. I call it out. You can't respond sensibly so you ignore or the thread gets pulled. |
Once again, you’ve demonstrated that you lack the ability to engage in a constructive debate. Instead of addressing the points raised, you resort to the same tired rhetoric, throwing around baseless accusations of racism and anti-Semitism—without a shred of evidence to support your claims.
I don’t typically put people on ignore, but given the level of discourse you bring to the table, I see no reason to continue engaging. I’ll simply disregard your posts moving forward—not out of frustration, but because debating with someone who behaves like the class clown in a schoolyard is a waste of time.
Honestly, I feel sorry for you. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 12:51 - Mar 4 with 227 views | KeithHaynes |
| Trump and Vance on 12:07 - Mar 4 by Scotia |
What have I fabricated?
You copy and pasted something written by a party DJ from Texas. You didn't know it at the time because you only post what other people tell you. You don't seem to have your own opinions - someone gives them to you and you don't have the critical mind to evaluate them. They may not coem from the so called mainstream media but some nutcase on the web.
You introduced DJ Michael but you didn't know you had. It sums you up.
That article just paraphrased the obvious to a naive audience. It was the opinion of a nobody. It included nothing new apart from making up a load nonsense about Zelensky going to the White House to try and influence Trump and Vance to allow them to join NATO and them not allowing it. They've been unsuccesful in attempts to join NATo for decades for obvious reasons - they'll never be able to join with the current Russian leadership in place.
Let's be honest, you've got no choice but to ignore me. You post rubbish, racism or antisemitism. I call it out. You can't respond sensibly so you ignore or the thread gets pulled. |
Can you report the racism and anti semitism you have seen, it makes the work of the mods far easier. |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 12:52 - Mar 4 with 225 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Trump and Vance on 11:47 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack |
The problem is, most just look at the mainstream and don't delve any deeper.
They follow the tired old cold war agendas and don't look at realpolitik |
You are aligned with Putin. Things are not complicated. He poisons people including UK citizens. He has a track record of invading foreign lands and occupying them. ( Different to US).
He is a dictator that intimidates and kills his rivals like Navallny. Ukraine wanted to break away from him and it was never going to be easy. Ukraine removed the government in 2014 by will of the people (possibly with US help).
You need to look for n the mirror and ask yourself why you support Putin on here. He is a very nasty piece of work. | |
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