| What has happened to the fans? 19:58 - Jan 4 with 1703 views | JaySaint |
Where has the fight, the passion and the drive gone?
Not that long ago the ground would have been pretty hostile towards to the directors box (and before / after the game) in a much better situation than this.
Now it is pure apathy, which is incredibly sad.
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| What has happened to the fans? on 21:20 - Jan 4 with 1519 views | mushinexile |
Frankly , I can't be bothered to purify my apathy for this shxtshower. | | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 21:34 - Jan 4 with 1471 views | TripleNiemi |
Mobile phones / influencers / Noddys [Post edited 4 Jan 21:35]
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| What has happened to the fans? on 22:09 - Jan 4 with 1352 views | saintmark1976 |
Different audience nowadays who regard going to St Mary’s as a totally different experience to even a few years ago.
They aren’t particularly concerned as to the result as long as they can inhabit the fans zones and club shop before posing for pictures inside and outside of the ground. | |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 22:57 - Jan 4 with 1191 views | kentsouthampton |
Put simply, we have the happiest clappiest fanbase anywhere. It's a joke. |  | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 10:04 - Jan 7 with 618 views | Newdawn2014 |
Saturday was on the players , I`m of the opinion that abuse is not productive so I dont get vocal , although I was jolly upset. | | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 10:46 - Jan 7 with 550 views | dirk_doone |
| What has happened to the fans? on 22:57 - Jan 4 by kentsouthampton |
Put simply, we have the happiest clappiest fanbase anywhere. It's a joke. |
Is that how you and your fellow Portsmouth fans see yourselves, Arthur? Well, that's good to know. Perhaps you should stick to digging up worms and posting pictures of your kitchen. [Post edited 7 Jan 10:47]
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| What has happened to the fans? on 10:55 - Jan 7 with 518 views | saintwizzler |
| What has happened to the fans? on 10:46 - Jan 7 by dirk_doone |
Is that how you and your fellow Portsmouth fans see yourselves, Arthur? Well, that's good to know. Perhaps you should stick to digging up worms and posting pictures of your kitchen. [Post edited 7 Jan 10:47]
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It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 11:16 - Jan 7 with 484 views | kentsouthampton |
| What has happened to the fans? on 10:46 - Jan 7 by dirk_doone |
Is that how you and your fellow Portsmouth fans see yourselves, Arthur? Well, that's good to know. Perhaps you should stick to digging up worms and posting pictures of your kitchen. [Post edited 7 Jan 10:47]
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You're confusing me with someone else, you have no idea who I am.
Obsessed. | | | |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 11:17 - Jan 7 with 478 views | Number_58 |
Hopefully most fans are realists. This season was always going to be tough, although admittedly no-one could have predicted quite how tough. Anyway, storming the gates of St Mary's is hardly going to achieve anything, unless people want Sport Republic to jack it in and leave us on the verge of bankruptcy again. Two years ago at this same time people were asking the same questions and we actually had a decent season the following year, culminating in one of the best days of our lives at Wembley. Things change very quickly in football. |  | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 11:25 - Jan 7 with 468 views | kernow |
Most fans are realists but many are fickle.
Most fans want to see a winning team or at least feel entertained and not feel that they are being mugged. | | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 11:42 - Jan 7 with 452 views | franniesTache |
Like most on here i'm an old b*stard so have been through the mill of it and to be honest i'd say part of the issue with fans now is that we're just completely ground down.
Back in the Branfoot and even Lowe days we felt we could make a difference. The gap between rich and poor clubs wasn't the size of a country, and teams could survive or even do well by having a handful of high quality home grown players, and those players would stay for more than a season (or half a season in worse case scenario).
These days protesting doesn't really do anything, we might get rid of Ankersen but then what? Football itself is just completely f*cking rotten from top to bottom and it's basically p*ssing in the wind trying to go against what's happened.
Even if the club got it's act together - and lets be honest we're talking about post going down and maybe coming back up - and we managed to stay up and maybe even solidify in the league, you know we'd just get raided again and then the downward cycle would start again.
So it's kind of understandable why fans don't have the stomach to protest, it's pointless, and really the protest shouldn't be focussed at Saints anyway.
If we want change, and want improvements we should be going after the whole damn structure of football. The clubs, the leagues, the owners, the tv companies.
Football needs to break to ever get it back, I can't see that happening so instead it's dying a slow death in this country, with the fans being replaced by passive consumers and "content creators" who don't really give a sh*t in the same way |  | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 11:49 - Jan 7 with 442 views | saint901 |
With the caveat that the following is anecdotal and based on no survey or numeric evidence at all, I think that there are basically three types of fans who go to matches.
One is the hardcore group who will go regardless of form, position, style of play. This group tries its best to encourage the team even in the face of the obvious disparity in quality between us and the rest of the PL. This group could protest against the owners/management but to what purpose? The owners etc have shown themselves to be happy to ignore the wishes of the fans, even this dedicated hardcore.
Another s the long term season ticket holders who have seen this before. This downward spiral into at least the Champ, perahps L1 and know that the nightmare will end - eventually.
Another is the tourist. They are therefore the experience and because it's probably cheaper than Chelsea or Arsenal and easier to get tickets for than Bournemouth. They really (really) don't care about the club, the match or football and just want some pics for whatever endorphin producing website they choose to delude themselves with.
I was in the second group for a long time but gave up my ST when Ralph was around due to the poor form and lack of a plan B. I promised myself I would return when the team improved but we know how that ended. | | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 12:08 - Jan 7 with 409 views | DorsetIan |
There's another point here. It isn't just about the supporters. It's about the relationship between the supporters and what's going on on the pitch.
It makes no sense to expect the same level of enouragement from the fans in the ground when the team is 5-0 down, as when the score is 1-1 and the team has the opposition pinned in their own box, pressing for a winner.
Anyone who screams, sings and shouts with the same level of enthusiasm regardless of what's going on on the pitch would rightly be considered a little deranged.
The fans are there and willing to perform - they showed that against West Brom in the play-offs. The atmosphere in the first half against West Ham was also a lot noisier.
But there is a quid pro quo. The team need to provide something (anything) to shout about. And for much of this season they haven't. | |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 12:39 - Jan 7 with 360 views | saintpaz |
| What has happened to the fans? on 10:04 - Jan 7 by Newdawn2014 |
Saturday was on the players , I`m of the opinion that abuse is not productive so I dont get vocal , although I was jolly upset. |
i think most were just gobsmacked, me included |  | | |
| What has happened to the fans? on 12:49 - Jan 7 with 330 views | dirk_doone |
| What has happened to the fans? on 11:16 - Jan 7 by kentsouthampton |
You're confusing me with someone else, you have no idea who I am.
Obsessed. |
OK, in future we'll just call you Obsessed. Good name, by the way, for a Pompey fan who posts every day on a Southampton messageboard pretending to be a Saints fan. | |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 13:55 - Jan 7 with 218 views | cocklebreath |
The fans have changed, I still get a bit too excited and often shout obscenities which 10 years ago would be the norm now I have people looking at me in disgust. During halftime of the Chelsea match a very attractive young lady was posing for photographs as if it was a model shoot, her fella had a proper camera, even 5 years ago a chant of get your tits out for the lads (not saying this is a good thing) would have started but no one took any notice because everyone wants to be photographed these days.
Going to st Mary’s makes me feel like an old man. |  |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 14:09 - Jan 7 with 185 views | dirk_doone |
| What has happened to the fans? on 13:55 - Jan 7 by cocklebreath |
The fans have changed, I still get a bit too excited and often shout obscenities which 10 years ago would be the norm now I have people looking at me in disgust. During halftime of the Chelsea match a very attractive young lady was posing for photographs as if it was a model shoot, her fella had a proper camera, even 5 years ago a chant of get your tits out for the lads (not saying this is a good thing) would have started but no one took any notice because everyone wants to be photographed these days.
Going to st Mary’s makes me feel like an old man. |
You're lucky, I feel like an old man before I even get there. | |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 15:47 - Jan 7 with 61 views | PatfromPoole |
| What has happened to the fans? on 11:42 - Jan 7 by franniesTache |
Like most on here i'm an old b*stard so have been through the mill of it and to be honest i'd say part of the issue with fans now is that we're just completely ground down.
Back in the Branfoot and even Lowe days we felt we could make a difference. The gap between rich and poor clubs wasn't the size of a country, and teams could survive or even do well by having a handful of high quality home grown players, and those players would stay for more than a season (or half a season in worse case scenario).
These days protesting doesn't really do anything, we might get rid of Ankersen but then what? Football itself is just completely f*cking rotten from top to bottom and it's basically p*ssing in the wind trying to go against what's happened.
Even if the club got it's act together - and lets be honest we're talking about post going down and maybe coming back up - and we managed to stay up and maybe even solidify in the league, you know we'd just get raided again and then the downward cycle would start again.
So it's kind of understandable why fans don't have the stomach to protest, it's pointless, and really the protest shouldn't be focussed at Saints anyway.
If we want change, and want improvements we should be going after the whole damn structure of football. The clubs, the leagues, the owners, the tv companies.
Football needs to break to ever get it back, I can't see that happening so instead it's dying a slow death in this country, with the fans being replaced by passive consumers and "content creators" who don't really give a sh*t in the same way |
Agree with an awful lot of this.
I also think back to when I was in my early 20's, and remember going to a SISA meeting at Hulse Road Social Club about the Branfoot protests, and being genuinely in awe of the passionate speeches given on the stage by the likes of Comrades MacMillan, Chorley and Clive. It made me want to protest in the Dell car park and in the ground after the Newcastle game in October 1993, which I duly did.
These days most of our younger element seem to be led by "influencers" such as Saint Rob and Football Martin. Our society has changed into a social media led vaccum.
It's a sad state of affairs. |  |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 15:50 - Jan 7 with 52 views | DorsetIan |
| What has happened to the fans? on 15:47 - Jan 7 by PatfromPoole |
Agree with an awful lot of this.
I also think back to when I was in my early 20's, and remember going to a SISA meeting at Hulse Road Social Club about the Branfoot protests, and being genuinely in awe of the passionate speeches given on the stage by the likes of Comrades MacMillan, Chorley and Clive. It made me want to protest in the Dell car park and in the ground after the Newcastle game in October 1993, which I duly did.
These days most of our younger element seem to be led by "influencers" such as Saint Rob and Football Martin. Our society has changed into a social media led vaccum.
It's a sad state of affairs. |
Although isn't it true that they got Nathan Jones out quicker than the Board would have done.
Based on the Martin experience, Jones had another 7 games in him at least! | |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 15:51 - Jan 7 with 48 views | MytchettSaint |
| What has happened to the fans? on 15:47 - Jan 7 by PatfromPoole |
Agree with an awful lot of this.
I also think back to when I was in my early 20's, and remember going to a SISA meeting at Hulse Road Social Club about the Branfoot protests, and being genuinely in awe of the passionate speeches given on the stage by the likes of Comrades MacMillan, Chorley and Clive. It made me want to protest in the Dell car park and in the ground after the Newcastle game in October 1993, which I duly did.
These days most of our younger element seem to be led by "influencers" such as Saint Rob and Football Martin. Our society has changed into a social media led vaccum.
It's a sad state of affairs. |
I still have my SISA badge!
Perhaps I should dust if off and wear it next time I attend. |  |
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| What has happened to the fans? on 15:57 - Jan 7 with 21 views | grumpy |
I'm going to sound my age now but I preferred it when you payed on the day and stood where you wanted.
If the game was rubbish the terraces often provided the entertainment and rubbishing the ref.
The game in those days was more working class, now its more middle class,probably because so many working class cant afford the cost.
The fans those days felt more in tune with the players,gone are the days of the Smiths,Jones etc now its often names you can hardly pronounce not alone sing.
Saints at the Dell was a family now at St Marys(don't get me wrong its a better stadium)its still a family but all too often at odds with each other,crying out for success and not getting it.
The Hardcore will always be there but these owners are really trying the patience of them. |  | | |
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