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Starmer! Wow! 20:07 - Sep 18 with 15914 viewsWingstandwood

https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-starmer-declares-gifts-and-freebies-totallin

Argus!

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Starmer! Wow! on 20:39 - Sep 26 with 1196 viewsFlashberryjack

Starmer! Wow! on 20:28 - Sep 26 by Scotia

Yep. Including all the guff they get added on for offices etc.

No accommodation expenses, they can stay in a travel lodge if they live far enough away from Westminster. Their staff should be paid as civil servants not from MPs expenses. Similar for travel and all that. It's how the civil service runs, and they are civil servants.

I wouldn't do their job for what they get at the moment.

The PM gets similar to a director level in Swansea council and. An MP similar to someone at management level. It's nuts.

Put it this way. If this was the situation Caroline Harris would not be earning £91k a year. The


Caroline Harris, poor dab.

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Starmer! Wow! on 21:12 - Sep 26 with 1168 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Starmer spent a lot of time in opposition talking about how politicians needed to clean up their act. He's either arrogant or stupid to have put himself in a position where he is seen as a hypocrite.

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Starmer! Wow! on 21:23 - Sep 26 with 1154 viewsunion_jack

Starmer! Wow! on 19:31 - Sep 26 by Luther27

Perhaps Elon didn’t offer a free Tesla to our illustrious freebie grabbing PM?…allegedly. Thought I’d better put that in just in case….


You know what hurty words make!

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Starmer! Wow! on 21:35 - Sep 26 with 1128 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Starmer! Wow! on 20:01 - Sep 26 by Scotia

It's nothing new. It shouldn't be allowed full stop. Labour should be ashamed.

But the Tories did worse, wallpaper, BJ holidaying at the Goldsmith's place, accepting donations from racists, Jenrick and his recent donations.

No gifts, no lobbying, no second jobs just pay them what they deserve.

Which probably needs to be more


Starmer is worth £15 million.

How much more money does he need???

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Starmer! Wow! on 21:41 - Sep 26 with 1112 viewsWhiterockin

Starmer! Wow! on 21:35 - Sep 26 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Starmer is worth £15 million.

How much more money does he need???


Everyone likes a freebie, it doesn't mater how much you have. Something for nothing is always sweet we are no different, well I'm not anyway.
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Starmer! Wow! on 22:35 - Sep 26 with 1059 viewsScotia

Starmer! Wow! on 21:35 - Sep 26 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Starmer is worth £15 million.

How much more money does he need???


It's up to him really.

He's doing a difficult job, one that deserves more than £166k a year.

I wouldn't do it if I was worth £15 million.
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Starmer! Wow! on 22:38 - Sep 26 with 1041 viewsScotia

Starmer! Wow! on 20:39 - Sep 26 by Flashberryjack

Caroline Harris, poor dab.


Lucky bugger I'd say. She gets £91k a year, a good MP should earn more than that.
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Starmer! Wow! on 23:01 - Sep 26 with 1011 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Labours Non Dom policy is being questioned by the Treasury as it thinks the pilicy will not realise any tax income. Looks like someone has realised very rich people can move around the World easily taking their tax liabilities with them

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Starmer! Wow! on 23:21 - Sep 26 with 977 viewsLuther27

Starmer! Wow! on 20:05 - Sep 26 by KeithHaynes

Pay them what they deserve ?

😂


Performance related pay?
Christ they’d owe us a few pounds if that was the case.

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Starmer! Wow! on 23:22 - Sep 26 with 977 viewsmajorraglan

Starmer! Wow! on 23:01 - Sep 26 by JACKMANANDBOY

Labours Non Dom policy is being questioned by the Treasury as it thinks the pilicy will not realise any tax income. Looks like someone has realised very rich people can move around the World easily taking their tax liabilities with them


The Conservatives under Jeremy Hunt introduced the changes to the non dom legislation in March this year which would see the abolition of non dom status after a transitionary period. Labour have proposed accelerating the changes and reducing the transitional discount.

Both sides are culpable, the question is how do we make the tax regime fairer and close the loopholes so every one is treated fairly.
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Starmer! Wow! on 07:51 - Sep 27 with 910 viewsAnotherJohn

Starmer! Wow! on 23:22 - Sep 26 by majorraglan

The Conservatives under Jeremy Hunt introduced the changes to the non dom legislation in March this year which would see the abolition of non dom status after a transitionary period. Labour have proposed accelerating the changes and reducing the transitional discount.

Both sides are culpable, the question is how do we make the tax regime fairer and close the loopholes so every one is treated fairly.


The point seems to be that Labour has now realised that the predicted £3 billion gain won't materialise, given the likely impact of the inheritance tax changes for non-doms by encouraging wealth to leave the UK, so that the policy will be diluted. Thus no £3 billion gain. The inheritance tax rule plan was a Labour idea , and was not in the Tory non-dom proposals.

This coincides with Rachel Reeves hinting at a change to the fiscal rules (by shifting to a public sector net worth test). Effectively she will increase the limit on the national credit card by £50 billion p.a. by offsetting public assets like anticipated student loan repayments against national debt. This new money would be used only for investment- related spending, and advocates of the policy see it as a way of achieving the economic growth that Labour has emphasised. Sceptics say that our national debt is already at 100% of GDP, the level at which many say the interest payment starts to damage the economy. Borrowing the extra £50 billion p.a. would push up the interest payments into dangerous territory above 100% of GDP.

It is worth mentioning that during the election campaign Labour stated that it had no plans to change the fiscal rules, and also that the manifesto commitments were fully costed. Party spokespersons were pushed very hard on both these things and were firm in saying that their position was clear. I too am now getting "bad vibes".
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Starmer! Wow! on 15:56 - Sep 27 with 814 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Here is a novel idea for every freebie an MP receives let them pay 40% income tax on the Value of the freebie as it is income.

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Starmer! Wow! on 17:27 - Sep 27 with 792 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Starmer! Wow! on 07:51 - Sep 27 by AnotherJohn

The point seems to be that Labour has now realised that the predicted £3 billion gain won't materialise, given the likely impact of the inheritance tax changes for non-doms by encouraging wealth to leave the UK, so that the policy will be diluted. Thus no £3 billion gain. The inheritance tax rule plan was a Labour idea , and was not in the Tory non-dom proposals.

This coincides with Rachel Reeves hinting at a change to the fiscal rules (by shifting to a public sector net worth test). Effectively she will increase the limit on the national credit card by £50 billion p.a. by offsetting public assets like anticipated student loan repayments against national debt. This new money would be used only for investment- related spending, and advocates of the policy see it as a way of achieving the economic growth that Labour has emphasised. Sceptics say that our national debt is already at 100% of GDP, the level at which many say the interest payment starts to damage the economy. Borrowing the extra £50 billion p.a. would push up the interest payments into dangerous territory above 100% of GDP.

It is worth mentioning that during the election campaign Labour stated that it had no plans to change the fiscal rules, and also that the manifesto commitments were fully costed. Party spokespersons were pushed very hard on both these things and were firm in saying that their position was clear. I too am now getting "bad vibes".
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I think we can safely say ' fully costed' was just political posturing.

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Starmer! Wow! on 17:32 - Sep 27 with 782 viewsonehunglow

Starmer! Wow! on 21:41 - Sep 26 by Whiterockin

Everyone likes a freebie, it doesn't mater how much you have. Something for nothing is always sweet we are no different, well I'm not anyway.


But don’t make out one doesn’t

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Starmer! Wow! on 22:20 - Sep 27 with 711 viewsraynor94

Another £16000 on clothes has now come to light, what an embarrassment he has become

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Starmer! Wow! on 22:29 - Sep 27 with 694 viewsonehunglow

Starmer! Wow! on 22:20 - Sep 27 by raynor94

Another £16000 on clothes has now come to light, what an embarrassment he has become


Whose?
Can’t be Rayners ,surely

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Starmer! Wow! on 22:32 - Sep 27 with 692 viewsunion_jack

Some rumours about the PM starting to go around. I’m not going to say anything though.

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Starmer! Wow! on 22:35 - Sep 27 with 683 viewsDr_Winston

Starmer! Wow! on 23:01 - Sep 26 by JACKMANANDBOY

Labours Non Dom policy is being questioned by the Treasury as it thinks the pilicy will not realise any tax income. Looks like someone has realised very rich people can move around the World easily taking their tax liabilities with them


It's been a widely understood and accepted economic reality for decades that excessive tax rates are ultimately counter productive. Of course, your average Socialist simply doesn't understand this, but then again, if Socialists understood Economics then they wouldn't be Socialists.

The best tax rates are those that people are happy to pay.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Starmer! Wow! on 22:35 - Sep 27 with 680 viewsonehunglow

Starmer! Wow! on 22:32 - Sep 27 by union_jack

Some rumours about the PM starting to go around. I’m not going to say anything though.


They will prove every bit as rancid as the Tories
When it becomes obvious,millions will regret voting as they did

The budget is going to floor people

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Starmer! Wow! on 22:37 - Sep 27 with 670 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Starmer! Wow! on 22:32 - Sep 27 by union_jack

Some rumours about the PM starting to go around. I’m not going to say anything though.


Women’s clothes?

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Starmer! Wow! on 22:49 - Sep 27 with 626 viewsraynor94

Starmer! Wow! on 22:29 - Sep 27 by onehunglow

Whose?
Can’t be Rayners ,surely


Kier the freebie

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Starmer! Wow! on 00:39 - Sep 28 with 575 viewsRobbie

Politician , some good and true on £ 91k per annum I can accept that wage they get .
Premier League footballers would not get out of their bed for that money .

The problems arise when the word honesty and openness are worded alongside MPs.

In the current climate I look at many Politicians of all parties in it for kudos and gain .
Sadly the very top table of Government are making the best of anything on offer free .

Would any of us , the great unwashed turn down a freebie if offered , I would not .

Goverment will waffle on about not the tax payers money , all declared and above board .

Biggest issue is the vague and obscure rulings on second homes with all bills paid by the taxpayer , nice to have a nest egg when losing your seat in Westminster .

House of Lords £ 350 per day to sign in show your face then go home to your Mansion .
I could do that easily .
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Starmer! Wow! on 10:43 - Sep 28 with 518 viewscontroversial_jack

Starmer! Wow! on 22:49 - Sep 27 by raynor94

Kier the freebie


What a short and selective memory you have.
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Starmer! Wow! on 16:31 - Sep 28 with 454 viewsGwyn737

6 million quid. Latimer in freebies since 2010 yet not really a word till now.

Says a lot about our printed press IMO.
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Starmer! Wow! on 18:54 - Sep 28 with 345 viewsWingstandwood

https://news.sky.com/story/rosie-duffield-resigns-as-labour-mp-13224014

We are going to see a lot of this over the next few upcoming years!

Argus!

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