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When a team has everything to prove a trip to the Hawthorns isn’t the best pick of venue. However, it’s the next game for Swansea City, who played and lost to a Wycombe side on Wednesday in the worst possible fashion.
West Bromwich Albion: Alex Palmer, Darnell Furlong, Kyle Bartley, Sami Ajayi, Jayson Molumby, Josh Maja, John Swift, Torbjorn Heggem, Karlan Grant, Alex Mowatt, Tom Fellows.
Substitutes: Joe Wildsmith, Callum Styles, Jed Wallace, Ousmane Diakite, Lewis Dobbin, Uros Racic, Paddy McNair, Gianluca Frabbota, Devante Cole.
Swansea City: Lawrence Vigouroux; Josh Key, Ben Cabango, Harry Darling, Josh Tymon; Matt Grimes (captain), Gonçalo Franco, Ollie Cooper; Jisung Eom, Žan Vipotnik, Ronald.
Substitutes: Jon McLaughlin, Kristian Pedersen, Jay Fulton, Joe Allen, Florian Bianchini, Myles Peart-Harris, Kyle Naughton, Nelson Abbey, Azeem Abdulai.
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : Updated interview on 11:13 - Aug 30 by Legend83
T-Joe I get, he looks out of his depth. But Pedersen and Abbey, a totally brand-new CB pairing expected to get comms 100% right between them etc. Feels harsh.
Abbey fell asleep for the goal but I thought he looked ok otherwise. Not his number one job, but I like Pedersen's keen-ness to move the ball quickly - he seems to take one-touch and pass, as opposed to HD and BC who seem to like 4 or 5 touches and take their time by which point the oppo have re-grouped.
Pedersen is a fine back up [starter even] in my opinion, can't think of anything he did wrong in the game we are where we are with these players at the moment, this is the standard.
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : Updated interview on 11:13 - Aug 30 by Legend83
T-Joe I get, he looks out of his depth. But Pedersen and Abbey, a totally brand-new CB pairing expected to get comms 100% right between them etc. Feels harsh.
Abbey fell asleep for the goal but I thought he looked ok otherwise. Not his number one job, but I like Pedersen's keen-ness to move the ball quickly - he seems to take one-touch and pass, as opposed to HD and BC who seem to like 4 or 5 touches and take their time by which point the oppo have re-grouped.
Imagine Nelson ,a centre half,seeing a 5-10 waif coming back from half way to get hold of the ball only to pass it back to keeper . He looks class . He must have felt mortified at what he saw in his first game
We are not seeing the full picture
Williams is horrific ,as coach,and yeah ,as max says,becoming rather smug
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : Updated interview on 14:14 - Aug 30 by onehunglow
Imagine Nelson ,a centre half,seeing a 5-10 waif coming back from half way to get hold of the ball only to pass it back to keeper . He looks class . He must have felt mortified at what he saw in his first game
We are not seeing the full picture
Williams is horrific ,as coach,and yeah ,as max says,becoming rather smug
We need him out of the club
I think his smugness is a disguise for his embarrassment both in the team’s performance and his own ability.
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : Updated interview on 14:14 - Aug 30 by onehunglow
Imagine Nelson ,a centre half,seeing a 5-10 waif coming back from half way to get hold of the ball only to pass it back to keeper . He looks class . He must have felt mortified at what he saw in his first game
We are not seeing the full picture
Williams is horrific ,as coach,and yeah ,as max says,becoming rather smug
We need him out of the club
Never going to happen.
Around 800k to get rid of him and his two mates we are told.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:43 - Aug 29 by pembsjack
Was looking forward to this one as my first away of the season and first trip to the Hawthorns, not so sure now! Too late as its all booked, so any tips on pubs in the are etc?
There's always quite a few jacks in the Vine. That's where I'm heading tomorrow tho so you may want to give it a miss
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WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : Updated interview on 14:58 - Aug 30 by KeithHaynes
Never going to happen.
Around 800k to get rid of him and his two mates we are told.
He's got time to turn things around, forget saturday it'll come and go, then he's got a fortnight to get things together, then see where we are after the 5 games afterwards, sink or swim time will quickly approach as ww move into Autumn.
He may need a different colour trousers soon though
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : Updated interview on 11:13 - Aug 30 by Legend83
T-Joe I get, he looks out of his depth. But Pedersen and Abbey, a totally brand-new CB pairing expected to get comms 100% right between them etc. Feels harsh.
Abbey fell asleep for the goal but I thought he looked ok otherwise. Not his number one job, but I like Pedersen's keen-ness to move the ball quickly - he seems to take one-touch and pass, as opposed to HD and BC who seem to like 4 or 5 touches and take their time by which point the oppo have re-grouped.
Agreed about Pedersen seems to a good option on the left of the centrebacks, it was crazy to have two left footed players in the middle at the back against Wycombe, he moved the balls to the left to Abbey quickly, sharply and in front of Abbey who was caught out by the speed of the pass, how our wingers crave for those type of balls one to turn defenders and can be run onto. Liked how he got balls forward to the likes of Ginnelly and Key early doors but didn't see his nightmare against Cardiff last season. but do think he is an old head with experience that the likes of Tymon would benefit by playing alongside him.
Franco, Cooper in the midfield with either Eom or Abdulai as the number 10 the other out wide with Ronald on the left The fullback Key and Tymon playing as fullbacks getting forward when they can but making sure we are defensively secure, would even play the left footed Pedersen on the left central defence with either Darling or Cabango, Cullen up top. Time for a change either get Grimes out of the defence or our of the starting line up.He has been coasting make him fight for his place.
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WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc on 17:33 - Aug 30 by RichardO
Franco, Cooper in the midfield with either Eom or Abdulai as the number 10 the other out wide with Ronald on the left The fullback Key and Tymon playing as fullbacks getting forward when they can but making sure we are defensively secure, would even play the left footed Pedersen on the left central defence with either Darling or Cabango, Cullen up top. Time for a change either get Grimes out of the defence or our of the starting line up.He has been coasting make him fight for his place.
I can see Peart - Harris starting as number 10 tomorrow, more physical than Cooper or Eom
You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc on 17:48 - Aug 30 by raynor94
I can see Peart - Harris starting as number 10 tomorrow, more physical than Cooper or Eom
He's only just arrived That would mean Luket hasn't had time to coach him I'd pick him Wouldn't surprise me if we play well and get a draw which would make the last game capitulation worse
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc on 22:35 - Aug 30 by onehunglow
He's only just arrived That would mean Luket hasn't had time to coach him I'd pick him Wouldn't surprise me if we play well and get a draw which would make the last game capitulation worse
Football
If he hasn't had time to coach him he should play well.
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WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc on 08:56 - Aug 31 with 1843 views
WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc on 17:48 - Aug 30 by raynor94
I can see Peart - Harris starting as number 10 tomorrow, more physical than Cooper or Eom
Cooper has put a bit of weight on to help the physical natue of his game and against PNE he was instrumental in two of the goals getting in the box in support of the wingers from the middle of the park. At the moment the likes of Fulton aren't getting anywhere near the standard of his midfield play, if Franco doesn't start I would play Allen with Cooper. How the team is sets up to counter the opposition formation is paramount, it was a cruise through the PNE and the first half of the Cardiff game would we have liked more incisive play yes but the second half of the Cardiff game and the whole Wycombe game we didn't counter or match their formation, how Luke wants the team to play and how he sets up the team to outplay the opposition are two different things.
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WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc on 10:44 - Aug 31 by RichardO
Cooper has put a bit of weight on to help the physical natue of his game and against PNE he was instrumental in two of the goals getting in the box in support of the wingers from the middle of the park. At the moment the likes of Fulton aren't getting anywhere near the standard of his midfield play, if Franco doesn't start I would play Allen with Cooper. How the team is sets up to counter the opposition formation is paramount, it was a cruise through the PNE and the first half of the Cardiff game would we have liked more incisive play yes but the second half of the Cardiff game and the whole Wycombe game we didn't counter or match their formation, how Luke wants the team to play and how he sets up the team to outplay the opposition are two different things.
West Bromwich Albion: Alex Palmer, Darnell Furlong, Kyle Bartley, Sami Ajayi, Jayson Molumby, Josh Maja, John Swift, Torbjorn Heggem, Karlan Grant, Alex Mowatt, Tom Fellows.
Substitutes: Joe Wildsmith, Callum Styles, Jed Wallace, Ousmane Diakite, Lewis Dobbin, Uros Racic, Paddy McNair, Gianluca Frabbota, Devante Cole.
Swansea City: Lawrence Vigouroux; Josh Key, Ben Cabango, Harry Darling, Josh Tymon; Matt Grimes (captain), Gonçalo Franco, Ollie Cooper; Jisung Eom, Žan Vipotnik, Ronald.
Substitutes: Jon McLaughlin, Kristian Pedersen, Jay Fulton, Joe Allen, Florian Bianchini, Myles Peart-Harris, Kyle Naughton, Nelson Abbey, Azeem Abdulai.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
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