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It’s tough if it costs you points in the short term when teams/managers don’t have that luxury often but Celar ought to have a run in the side otherwise he’ll never get going. It would be great for him to come to a new league and new teammates and smash it from day one but it rarely happens.
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Our starting centre forward this season on 11:16 - Aug 14 with 1811 views
Our starting centre forward this season on 10:11 - Aug 14 by CroydonCaptJack
Are we seriously writing Celar off after about 100 minutes of football?
The word 'entitled' comes to mind.
I'm not suggesting that Celar will ever turn out like Ellis Simms and Hadji Wright at Coventry, but in both cases: Simms didn't start scoring on a regular basis until January 2024 and Wright only managed 2 in his first 15 games. They both then ended up with 19 goals apiece in all competitions.
It will take time and we will have to be patient with not just him, but also the new wide players recently signed, Varane and new goalkeeper. Up to 5 new players who will in all likelihood figure in our starting eleven, none of whom has played in the championship before. This is a tough league and they will all need time to adapt and it is for that reason, I wouldn't sell IIias Chair during the current window. We need his experience at this level as well as his undoubted creativity and ability to score goals.
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Our starting centre forward this season on 11:35 - Aug 14 with 1721 views
Our starting centre forward this season on 11:17 - Aug 14 by Loyalitat
I'm not suggesting that Celar will ever turn out like Ellis Simms and Hadji Wright at Coventry, but in both cases: Simms didn't start scoring on a regular basis until January 2024 and Wright only managed 2 in his first 15 games. They both then ended up with 19 goals apiece in all competitions.
It will take time and we will have to be patient with not just him, but also the new wide players recently signed, Varane and new goalkeeper. Up to 5 new players who will in all likelihood figure in our starting eleven, none of whom has played in the championship before. This is a tough league and they will all need time to adapt and it is for that reason, I wouldn't sell IIias Chair during the current window. We need his experience at this level as well as his undoubted creativity and ability to score goals.
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This is indeed the main issue buying value players from abroad: the bedding in period. The physicality of the Championship takes time to get used to and adapting to.
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Our starting centre forward this season on 12:49 - Aug 14 with 1592 views
Our starting centre forward this season on 10:59 - Aug 14 by Superhoop83
I agree that Celar hasn't looked good, but it is WAY too early to assess him and I suspect he will come good.
We were dreadful by the time he came on last night and the service to him on Saturday was non-existent. Our goal also came from him dropping into space and feeding the ball quickly out to the wing, so let's be patient and see what the new additions on the wings bring to the party.
Frey has done ok, but if he is our best striker this season I think we're in a spot of bother.
This re Celar 100%.
Scraps on Sat, then came into a $hit second half performance yesterday. At one point last night, he controlled a hopeful clearance really nicely on the touch line, held off his marker, looked to shimmy away from a second CU player, only for a third to come in to press him - all without another hooped shirt in sight.
He may end up more Conor Washington than Clive Allen, but let's give it a good dozen games, eh?
Our starting centre forward this season on 07:52 - Aug 14 by WokingR
Agree, Frey for me too. He might not have the engine or stamina to go 90 minutes but he certainly puts the effort in for as long as he can. Dykes seems to only make the effort 1 in 5 games and Celar seems to just mince around without affecting anything. Anyone else noticed he runs like Charlie did after coming back from his shoulder surgery ?
What is it about supporters writing off (and seemingly accepting) Andersen and Frey as unable (and/or can't be expected) to last 90 minutes? One is 29 and the other is 30! It's absolutely ridiculous! It would be fascinating to see how my employer reacted if I (at the age of 56) stopped my class after 60 minutes instead of doing the full hour and a half because I didn't feel quite up to it.
If the supposition is correct, are they on 0.6 contracts as a result, and if not, why not?
only at QPR could you have multiple people angry about a player being written off who hasn't actually been written off, people have just said he's not looked good so far
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Our starting centre forward this season on 14:32 - Aug 14 with 1268 views
I'd give Celar a run and see what he has. He certainly can't be worse and harm anything We all know Frey is not the answer. I would play Dykes ahead of Frey, at least Dykes plays a little more out on the field and can hold up the play for others. So for me I would give Celar a few matches, and the if he can't do it try Dykes.
I also agree with the above poster who says we should try a formation change. Now that it seems we are going to have an abundance of attacking wingers maybe we should use them?
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Our starting centre forward this season on 15:48 - Aug 14 with 1185 views
Our starting centre forward this season on 14:27 - Aug 14 by daveB
only at QPR could you have multiple people angry about a player being written off who hasn't actually been written off, people have just said he's not looked good so far
It's not only at QPR though is it. I suspect it would be everywhere and even more marked in the Prem.
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Our starting centre forward this season on 17:22 - Aug 14 with 1078 views
Our starting centre forward this season on 14:32 - Aug 14 by strikerace
I'd give Celar a run and see what he has. He certainly can't be worse and harm anything We all know Frey is not the answer. I would play Dykes ahead of Frey, at least Dykes plays a little more out on the field and can hold up the play for others. So for me I would give Celar a few matches, and the if he can't do it try Dykes.
I also agree with the above poster who says we should try a formation change. Now that it seems we are going to have an abundance of attacking wingers maybe we should use them?
How can you watch yesterdays game and think Dykes does does more and holds the play for others better than Frey. Frey showed better hold up play yesterday than Dykes has in three years. He also looks much fitter than last season, as far as I'm concerned Frey could be like a whole new signing that we had written off as not good enough
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Our starting centre forward this season on 18:15 - Aug 14 with 971 views
For those around in the 90's I'm getting strong Mike Sheron vibes, lets hope we find his strengths especially with the new signings and then play to them
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Our starting centre forward this season on 19:34 - Aug 14 with 824 views
ZC has been here 5 minutes, and some are already being a bit, you know, typical...
Give the lad and all the other lads a f.....g chance! They're all new to this league and, in most cases, new to the country! They're probably living out of boxes, loved ones in transit, and may well suffer a bit of culture/ footy shock.
We can't afford off-the-shelf fixes and need to polish them up; so a bit of support really is effing vital.
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Our starting centre forward this season on 19:34 - Aug 14 by PlanetHonneywood
ZC has been here 5 minutes, and some are already being a bit, you know, typical...
Give the lad and all the other lads a f.....g chance! They're all new to this league and, in most cases, new to the country! They're probably living out of boxes, loved ones in transit, and may well suffer a bit of culture/ footy shock.
We can't afford off-the-shelf fixes and need to polish them up; so a bit of support really is effing vital.
I still don’t know what Celar is, but I’m getting clues of what he isn’t: not that quick, not a bully, not dominant in the air, not a back to goal linkman, not barking orders to his midfield. What I’ve got no data on is him in the box…finding space, losing markers, taking chances. Not losing faith yet, but I’d like to see more effort to use his strengths (whatever they may be).
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Our starting centre forward this season on 21:22 - Aug 14 with 741 views
Zan's goal reel for 2023/24 - a nice variety of strikes! I don't think they've moved the goals since he arrived, have they? Hopefully, he'll be firing 'em in soon.
Our starting centre forward this season on 18:21 - Aug 14 by baz_qpr
For those around in the 90's I'm getting strong Mike Sheron vibes, lets hope we find his strengths especially with the new signings and then play to them
We paid £2.75m for Sheron in 1997. If Celar just takes a dump on the Brammall Lane pitch and walks off never to be seen again he’ll be better value.
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Our starting centre forward this season on 22:50 - Aug 14 with 662 views
Our starting centre forward this season on 21:22 - Aug 14 by stainrods_elbow
Zan's goal reel for 2023/24 - a nice variety of strikes! I don't think they've moved the goals since he arrived, have they? Hopefully, he'll be firing 'em in soon.
Had zero support and zero service whilst adapting to a much more physical and frantic type of football . He’s looked a little lost but with players in and around him I think he’ll be fine
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Our starting centre forward this season on 00:22 - Aug 15 with 591 views
Our starting centre forward this season on 22:46 - Aug 14 by Watford_Ranger
We paid £2.75m for Sheron in 1997. If Celar just takes a dump on the Brammall Lane pitch and walks off never to be seen again he’ll be better value.
Actually, MS managed 19 goals for us in 60 odd games, so your historical revisionism is a bit askew, me old china. What we'd give for a striker with those stats right now! Some failure!
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