| Tata Steel 19:27 - Jun 27 with 7386 views | raynor94 |
Have responded to the strikes, by fetching forward the shutdown of both Furnaces from September to July 7th.
What a sad situation, this will be the decimation of Port Talbot as a Town [Post edited 27 Jun 19:27]
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| Tata Steel on 19:37 - Jun 27 with 2612 views | Boundy |
The workers were dammed if they did or didn't agree to industrial action, shame on the UK and Welsh governments . The knock on affect is going to be massive ,affecting not the just the local community where TATA has to be the best payers in the area and with its loss comes the loss of many smaller businesses already struggling. By this country trying to hit zero carbon will only weaken us and strengthen those abroad from whence we will now be reliant on purchasing clean steel .Madness |  |
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| Tata Steel on 19:50 - Jun 27 with 2600 views | raynor94 |
| Tata Steel on 19:37 - Jun 27 by Boundy |
The workers were dammed if they did or didn't agree to industrial action, shame on the UK and Welsh governments . The knock on affect is going to be massive ,affecting not the just the local community where TATA has to be the best payers in the area and with its loss comes the loss of many smaller businesses already struggling. By this country trying to hit zero carbon will only weaken us and strengthen those abroad from whence we will now be reliant on purchasing clean steel .Madness |
And abroad is from where we will now be shipping in Steel to roll in our mills.
Will these Arc Furnaces that use scrap steel ever be built now, I fear this is the beginning of the end for the whole plant | |
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| Tata Steel on 20:00 - Jun 27 with 2587 views | Boundy |
| Tata Steel on 19:50 - Jun 27 by raynor94 |
And abroad is from where we will now be shipping in Steel to roll in our mills.
Will these Arc Furnaces that use scrap steel ever be built now, I fear this is the beginning of the end for the whole plant |
There's a good chance they won't be installed, why would they ,they could afford to lose production well before August ,imo they don't care about UK workers ,why should they Port Talbot's been losing money for them for years ,maybe this has all been a front because the knew the reaction they would have ? | |
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| Tata Steel on 20:07 - Jun 27 with 2577 views | Whiterockin |
| Tata Steel on 20:00 - Jun 27 by Boundy |
There's a good chance they won't be installed, why would they ,they could afford to lose production well before August ,imo they don't care about UK workers ,why should they Port Talbot's been losing money for them for years ,maybe this has all been a front because the knew the reaction they would have ? |
It's very sad but personally I think the workers have played right into their hands, it was going to close now they have the option to do it immediately. As others have said, dammed if they do dammed if they don't. |  | | |
| Tata Steel on 20:08 - Jun 27 with 2576 views | Robbie |
As soon as Industirial Action was called for the writing was on the wall for the Plant .
TATA needed any excuse to put another nail in the coffin , this was just it .
I know they have been importing Hot Rolled Coil from India lately , the incoming quality on the product has been excellent too from what I am hearing .
Looks like the end of Welsh carbon steel is nearly on us .
A sad situation for an old ex British Steel employee like me and many others . | | | |
| Tata Steel on 20:11 - Jun 27 with 2569 views | max936 |
| Tata Steel on 19:37 - Jun 27 by Boundy |
The workers were dammed if they did or didn't agree to industrial action, shame on the UK and Welsh governments . The knock on affect is going to be massive ,affecting not the just the local community where TATA has to be the best payers in the area and with its loss comes the loss of many smaller businesses already struggling. By this country trying to hit zero carbon will only weaken us and strengthen those abroad from whence we will now be reliant on purchasing clean steel .Madness |
The Senedd would rather waste money on Drakeford's idea's like this ridiculous 20mph nonsense. |  |
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| Tata Steel on 20:16 - Jun 27 with 2558 views | max936 |
| Tata Steel on 19:37 - Jun 27 by Boundy |
The workers were dammed if they did or didn't agree to industrial action, shame on the UK and Welsh governments . The knock on affect is going to be massive ,affecting not the just the local community where TATA has to be the best payers in the area and with its loss comes the loss of many smaller businesses already struggling. By this country trying to hit zero carbon will only weaken us and strengthen those abroad from whence we will now be reliant on purchasing clean steel .Madness |
We are the only Country it seems that wants to be seen as leading the World in this Zero Carbon thing, we're a tiny Country a mere head of a pin in World terms, yet we got to be seen as leading in everything, when the reality is that they just what to rinse the last penny out of British Tax payer. | |
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| Tata Steel on 20:17 - Jun 27 with 2557 views | raynor94 |
| Tata Steel on 20:08 - Jun 27 by Robbie |
As soon as Industirial Action was called for the writing was on the wall for the Plant .
TATA needed any excuse to put another nail in the coffin , this was just it .
I know they have been importing Hot Rolled Coil from India lately , the incoming quality on the product has been excellent too from what I am hearing .
Looks like the end of Welsh carbon steel is nearly on us .
A sad situation for an old ex British Steel employee like me and many others . |
I'm exactly like you, 42 years service, a very sad situation indeed | |
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| Tata Steel on 20:22 - Jun 27 with 2542 views | max936 |
| Tata Steel on 19:50 - Jun 27 by raynor94 |
And abroad is from where we will now be shipping in Steel to roll in our mills.
Will these Arc Furnaces that use scrap steel ever be built now, I fear this is the beginning of the end for the whole plant |
There's not the electrical infrastructure there to power those so called furnaces. nor is there at the National Grid either, its struggling to cope now. [Post edited 27 Jun 20:24]
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| Tata Steel on 20:47 - Jun 27 with 2508 views | Flashberryjack |
| Tata Steel on 19:50 - Jun 27 by raynor94 |
And abroad is from where we will now be shipping in Steel to roll in our mills.
Will these Arc Furnaces that use scrap steel ever be built now, I fear this is the beginning of the end for the whole plant |
And abroad is where most of big business will go, especially when we go full pelt into net zero. |  |
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| Tata Steel on 21:21 - Jun 27 with 2483 views | max936 |
| Tata Steel on 20:47 - Jun 27 by Flashberryjack |
And abroad is where most of big business will go, especially when we go full pelt into net zero. |
"especially when we go full pelt into net"
And what difference will that make to the World? | |
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| Tata Steel on 21:24 - Jun 27 with 2480 views | onehunglow |
My first job there
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However, maybe by now we should have diversified | |
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| Tata Steel on 21:39 - Jun 27 with 2462 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Tata Steel on 21:21 - Jun 27 by max936 |
"especially when we go full pelt into net"
And what difference will that make to the World? |
Zero, just take a look at India's growth in emissions.
Wales produces about 30 Million Tonnes of CO2 each year. Last year India increased its emissions by 230 Million Tonnes. [Post edited 27 Jun 21:54]
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| Tata Steel on 21:41 - Jun 27 with 2460 views | Flashberryjack |
| Tata Steel on 21:21 - Jun 27 by max936 |
"especially when we go full pelt into net"
And what difference will that make to the World? |
Nothing, other than make countries with net zero policies poorer, and countries with a far gentler policy to net zero richer. | |
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| Tata Steel on 21:42 - Jun 27 with 2458 views | Robbie |
| Tata Steel on 21:21 - Jun 27 by max936 |
"especially when we go full pelt into net"
And what difference will that make to the World? |
Importing HRC from India .
China will soon be eyeing potential opportunities to pump their metal into the UK .
Sure them Countries give a damn about their carbon footprint on the World .
This decision has nothing to with being Greener .
TATA has wanted to cut jobs for years due to financial reasons , to many high wages paid .
Look forward to Zero Contract offers added to cheaper labour costs going forward . | | | |
| Tata Steel on 21:49 - Jun 27 with 2441 views | Boundy |
| Tata Steel on 20:22 - Jun 27 by max936 |
There's not the electrical infrastructure there to power those so called furnaces. nor is there at the National Grid either, its struggling to cope now. [Post edited 27 Jun 20:24]
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and the Grid will continue to struggle when so many with NIMBY attitudes keep protesting against other any new overhead lines being built | |
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| Tata Steel on 21:53 - Jun 27 with 2435 views | max936 |
| Tata Steel on 21:39 - Jun 27 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Zero, just take a look at India's growth in emissions.
Wales produces about 30 Million Tonnes of CO2 each year. Last year India increased its emissions by 230 Million Tonnes. [Post edited 27 Jun 21:54]
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Exactly, look at China, Russia the US etc! | |
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| Tata Steel on 21:58 - Jun 27 with 2403 views | max936 |
| Tata Steel on 20:08 - Jun 27 by Robbie |
As soon as Industirial Action was called for the writing was on the wall for the Plant .
TATA needed any excuse to put another nail in the coffin , this was just it .
I know they have been importing Hot Rolled Coil from India lately , the incoming quality on the product has been excellent too from what I am hearing .
Looks like the end of Welsh carbon steel is nearly on us .
A sad situation for an old ex British Steel employee like me and many others . |
Tata have held successive Governments to ransom with countless threats over the years, I spent 12yrs in there and left in 2016, I was working for a contractor and it was happening then.
This is the beginning of the end for the whole works. | |
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| Tata Steel on 22:11 - Jun 27 with 2381 views | Robbie |
| Tata Steel on 21:58 - Jun 27 by max936 |
Tata have held successive Governments to ransom with countless threats over the years, I spent 12yrs in there and left in 2016, I was working for a contractor and it was happening then.
This is the beginning of the end for the whole works. |
Tata had threatened to pull out of the UK en bloc if they could not get any more subsidies .
Seems there is half a billion waiting for them when this part closure starts , although this was offered by the current Government ,
Richie gets the boot from No.10 , a new party comes in , will that money still be there after the General Election . | | | |
| Tata Steel on 22:23 - Jun 27 with 2362 views | pencoedjack |
| Tata Steel on 20:47 - Jun 27 by Flashberryjack |
And abroad is where most of big business will go, especially when we go full pelt into net zero. |
It’s not an issue we have a great infrastructure to attract new business into Wales.
I spent around 40 mins going from Magor to Newport this evening after travelling from Swindon to Magor with no traffic.
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| Tata Steel on 23:01 - Jun 27 with 2322 views | max936 |
| Tata Steel on 22:23 - Jun 27 by pencoedjack |
It’s not an issue we have a great infrastructure to attract new business into Wales.
I spent around 40 mins going from Magor to Newport this evening after travelling from Swindon to Magor with no traffic.
Wales is f****d. |
If it my youngest wasn't the way he is I'd have pushed and pushed my Mrs for us to have moved abroad.
My eldest has just been diagnosed with Ankylosing spondylitis now as well, struggling with back pain and his left knee swelling, it never ends in this house, we need a sunnier warmer climate  | |
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| Tata Steel on 08:41 - Jun 28 with 2251 views | Boundy |
| Tata Steel on 23:01 - Jun 27 by max936 |
If it my youngest wasn't the way he is I'd have pushed and pushed my Mrs for us to have moved abroad.
My eldest has just been diagnosed with Ankylosing spondylitis now as well, struggling with back pain and his left knee swelling, it never ends in this house, we need a sunnier warmer climate |
Sorry to hear that Max , I'm a firm believer that the weather affects many physical conditions , I struggle when its cold and damp, no comfort to you I know and even less when I say that since 2016 the UK government has given India £2.3 billion in aid , I wonder when that will be reciprocated because its going to be needed. | |
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| Tata Steel on 08:56 - Jun 28 with 2244 views | blackswan |
Government need to withdraw the 500 million and tell tata you have two options close it give everyone their redundancy money and pay for the dismantling of the plant ir here's a pound walk away. Then we need a Government owned state of the art steel works with arc and hydrogen furnaces so we can make virgin steel. All Government projects to use steel made here low carbon self sufficient green steel | | | |
| Tata Steel on 09:20 - Jun 28 with 2229 views | raynor94 |
| Tata Steel on 08:56 - Jun 28 by blackswan |
Government need to withdraw the 500 million and tell tata you have two options close it give everyone their redundancy money and pay for the dismantling of the plant ir here's a pound walk away. Then we need a Government owned state of the art steel works with arc and hydrogen furnaces so we can make virgin steel. All Government projects to use steel made here low carbon self sufficient green steel |
Can you make virgin steel from an electric arc furnace? | |
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| Tata Steel on 10:19 - Jun 28 with 2187 views | blackswan |
| Tata Steel on 09:20 - Jun 28 by raynor94 |
Can you make virgin steel from an electric arc furnace? |
No the steel from an electric arc is poor quality recycled scrap and as it technology stands atm couldn't supply Trostre tin plate works! However hydrogen furnaces which are being done on the continent can produce high quality virgin steel needed for construction | | | |
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