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Nigel Farage 15:28 - May 28 with 22853 viewsunion_jack

Nigel seems to be voicing the opinions of the silent majority of this country. Yes?

Or no?

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Nigel Farage on 15:46 - Jun 14 with 1529 viewsSullutaCreturned

Nigel Farage on 22:17 - Jun 13 by Wingstandwood

His sort along with YesCymru and other nationalist yokels are a complete and utter embarrassment who lack even the most crudest levels of common sense.

Of course in his fantasy world?... Out would come the 'magic cheque' book, because he is a guy, whom it's only natural to assume (bleeding bloody obvious more like!) has absolutely no comprehension about 'real-world' logistical balance and infrastructure to cope with a relentless 700,000+ a year population increase.

I'm going to Google his background. I guess it'll be the usual case of a degree in a subject that requires very little common sense and mathematical reasoning, along with a previous job completely detached from number crunching, profit and loss margins and management based upon end results and strategic forward planning.

Shocking standards of some modern day politicians! What an absolute joke!


I think he used to be a journalist.
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Nigel Farage on 16:03 - Jun 14 with 1495 viewsunion_jack

Nigel Farage on 15:46 - Jun 14 by SullutaCreturned

I think he used to be a journalist.


I see he’s out the subject of independence down the list of priorities undoubtedly to get more votes and then claim the appetite for it is greater than ever.

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Nigel Farage on 16:28 - Jun 14 with 1472 viewsWingstandwood

Nigel Farage on 15:46 - Jun 14 by SullutaCreturned

I think he used to be a journalist.


The idiot would fail to qualify as a 'bucket designer', because he is way too thick to even realse that there has to be an opening so that water can be poured in and out. And perish the thought of knowing where to correctly place the handle!

What an utter 5 star clown he is! Astonishing to think that he can come out with infantile 'pie-in-the-sky' cr@p that belongs to a world of wet-behind-the-ears "junior school children try politics" stuff.

And to do so on national television. Talk about a complete and utter lack of self awarness and self appraisal to realise what an absolute joke he is. And if Wales had full independance that crackpot would be trying to pull the strings?

Argus!

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Nigel Farage on 17:08 - Jun 14 with 1431 viewsGwyn737

I’m not currently pro-independence but struggle to accept the argument that Wales can’t be independent because the politicians are rubbish, but we had to leave the EU even though our politicians are rubbish.
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Nigel Farage on 20:50 - Jun 14 with 1334 viewswaynekerr55

Nigel Farage on 22:14 - Jun 13 by Dr_Winston

You're basing your argument on an assumption, which most people who shudder at the very concept of NHS reform also do.

I have no idea one way or another what sort of system that Farage would implement if he had the power to do so. It is however fairly obvious that an "insurance based system" is not necessarily a bad thing.


So we are both making assumptions then 😉

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Nigel Farage on 22:56 - Jun 14 with 1255 viewsSullutaCreturned

Nigel Farage on 17:08 - Jun 14 by Gwyn737

I’m not currently pro-independence but struggle to accept the argument that Wales can’t be independent because the politicians are rubbish, but we had to leave the EU even though our politicians are rubbish.


That's not an argument really, it's some peoples opinions but there have been threads about this and the two camps disagree on the financial aspect of it.

According to some pro indy's Welsh tax returns are much larger than Westminster owns up to.
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Nigel Farage on 23:23 - Jun 14 with 1230 viewsonehunglow

Wales is still tribal
East west north south
Welsh / English speakers
Rugby v Football.

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Nigel Farage on 23:42 - Jun 14 with 1208 viewsWhiterockin

Nigel Farage on 23:23 - Jun 14 by onehunglow

Wales is still tribal
East west north south
Welsh / English speakers
Rugby v Football.


As is the rest of the UK.
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Nigel Farage on 07:04 - Jun 15 with 1140 viewsGwyn737

Nigel Farage on 22:56 - Jun 14 by SullutaCreturned

That's not an argument really, it's some peoples opinions but there have been threads about this and the two camps disagree on the financial aspect of it.

According to some pro indy's Welsh tax returns are much larger than Westminster owns up to.


Aren’t the financial arguments similar, too?

I’d say wales would be worse off with independence and and we’re worse of being outside the EU.
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Nigel Farage on 08:38 - Jun 15 with 1108 viewsAnotherJohn

Nigel Farage on 07:04 - Jun 15 by Gwyn737

Aren’t the financial arguments similar, too?

I’d say wales would be worse off with independence and and we’re worse of being outside the EU.


Isn't the common thread in both cases to do with whether and to what extent central UK funds find their way to Wales? As I understand it, the argument regarding the EU is that, although the EU subsidies coming to Wales might ultimately be funded from UK transfers to the EU (as a net contributor), we would not have received as much if we had to rely on Westminster to make the transfer internally. With independence we would of course cease to receive any subsidy from Westminster. In other words, the EU only "gave" Wales money by reallocating UK money, and to the extent that now happens internally, Wales is better off in an integrated UK.

I suppose you might say that there are other factors as well as subsidies in the EU case, but for me the jury is still out on long-term trade impact.
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Nigel Farage on 09:33 - Jun 15 with 1082 viewsDr_Winston

The saddest thing is that Wales is continually talked about as some sort of charity case in need of perpetual subsidy from elsewhere. With a Government even remotely interested in wealth creation instead of redistributing other peoples there's no reason at all why we couldn't become a prosperous part of the world.

We could be a haven for tourism, industry and innovation. Skilled graduates from all over the UK could be drawn here by relatively cheap housing and a good quality of life if employers worthy of them thought that Wales was a good place to do business.

Instead our Govt does its level best to dissuade it with a lunatic transport policy, attacks on tourism, the suicidal drive towards Net Zero and a general suspicion towards any kind of profit. Wales as a whole is massively dependent upon Government agencies for work. Nearly a third of the entire Welsh workforce is employed by the state.

It's not remotely a coincidence that almost all of Wales' richest people, from Terry Matthews to Dai Topshelf, had to go elsewhere to make their fortunes. Either that or they or derived it from businesses operating significantly beyond Offa's Dyke.
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Nigel Farage on 09:58 - Jun 15 with 1051 viewsonehunglow

Nigel Farage on 09:33 - Jun 15 by Dr_Winston

The saddest thing is that Wales is continually talked about as some sort of charity case in need of perpetual subsidy from elsewhere. With a Government even remotely interested in wealth creation instead of redistributing other peoples there's no reason at all why we couldn't become a prosperous part of the world.

We could be a haven for tourism, industry and innovation. Skilled graduates from all over the UK could be drawn here by relatively cheap housing and a good quality of life if employers worthy of them thought that Wales was a good place to do business.

Instead our Govt does its level best to dissuade it with a lunatic transport policy, attacks on tourism, the suicidal drive towards Net Zero and a general suspicion towards any kind of profit. Wales as a whole is massively dependent upon Government agencies for work. Nearly a third of the entire Welsh workforce is employed by the state.

It's not remotely a coincidence that almost all of Wales' richest people, from Terry Matthews to Dai Topshelf, had to go elsewhere to make their fortunes. Either that or they or derived it from businesses operating significantly beyond Offa's Dyke.
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Have to say,that is sone post
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Nigel Farage on 06:24 - Jun 17 with 881 viewsWhiterockin

Farage on Wales.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0vvy8y0ze1o
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Nigel Farage on 08:54 - Jun 17 with 833 viewsScotia

Nigel Farage on 06:24 - Jun 17 by Whiterockin

Farage on Wales.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0vvy8y0ze1o


One policy is a freeze on non-essential immigration?

Well if reform win there won't be any games at the swansea.com next season. Or at least if they happen they'll be with a significantly reduced capacity.
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Nigel Farage on 09:45 - Jun 17 with 804 viewsonehunglow

Where’s Barry Swan got too.
Come on K

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Nigel Farage on 10:32 - Jun 17 with 772 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Nigel Farage on 08:54 - Jun 17 by Scotia

One policy is a freeze on non-essential immigration?

Well if reform win there won't be any games at the swansea.com next season. Or at least if they happen they'll be with a significantly reduced capacity.


Why not?

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Nigel Farage on 10:44 - Jun 17 with 766 viewsScotia

Nigel Farage on 10:32 - Jun 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Why not?


I reckon 40% of matchday staff (stewards/catering) are immigrants, mostly apparently Nigerian / Indian students.

As I understand if a stand is open it has to fully staffed from a H&S point of view. At least with stewards.

Unless they're essential immigrants (and if they are, Farage's plan it won't reduce our new migration figures) they aren't going to be able to work.
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Nigel Farage on 11:03 - Jun 17 with 760 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Nigel Farage on 10:44 - Jun 17 by Scotia

I reckon 40% of matchday staff (stewards/catering) are immigrants, mostly apparently Nigerian / Indian students.

As I understand if a stand is open it has to fully staffed from a H&S point of view. At least with stewards.

Unless they're essential immigrants (and if they are, Farage's plan it won't reduce our new migration figures) they aren't going to be able to work.


The ground was fully staffed for years with largely local people, even when we were in the premier league with bigger crowds. It’s only in recent years that it’s changed.

The fact is it’s not essential, the steward/catering contractors and by extension the club are making a business choice to employ cheap easily dispensable labour via agencies paying them less, giving them less rights, making them easier to sack, not having to worry about holiday pay etc. And it’s happening across the country.
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Nigel Farage on 11:18 - Jun 17 with 749 viewsScotia

Nigel Farage on 11:03 - Jun 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

The ground was fully staffed for years with largely local people, even when we were in the premier league with bigger crowds. It’s only in recent years that it’s changed.

The fact is it’s not essential, the steward/catering contractors and by extension the club are making a business choice to employ cheap easily dispensable labour via agencies paying them less, giving them less rights, making them easier to sack, not having to worry about holiday pay etc. And it’s happening across the country.
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Apparently the club are trying to move away from using the steward contractors, specialised or whoever they are? Because they cost a fortune.

Basically anyone with a pulse can work on matchday, but the club just can't get the staff to directly employ themselves.

Same old story though - they need to pay more I assume. It's not a job I'd fancy.
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Nigel Farage on 12:34 - Jun 17 with 719 viewsfbreath

Nigel Farage on 11:18 - Jun 17 by Scotia

Apparently the club are trying to move away from using the steward contractors, specialised or whoever they are? Because they cost a fortune.

Basically anyone with a pulse can work on matchday, but the club just can't get the staff to directly employ themselves.

Same old story though - they need to pay more I assume. It's not a job I'd fancy.


I bet you'd love the job looking after the WAGS

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Nigel Farage on 13:28 - Jun 17 with 688 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Nigel Farage on 10:44 - Jun 17 by Scotia

I reckon 40% of matchday staff (stewards/catering) are immigrants, mostly apparently Nigerian / Indian students.

As I understand if a stand is open it has to fully staffed from a H&S point of view. At least with stewards.

Unless they're essential immigrants (and if they are, Farage's plan it won't reduce our new migration figures) they aren't going to be able to work.


4700 unemployed in Swansea as of December 2023. Also 20,000 economically inactive. Plenty of spare labour in the area to staff the ground on match days.

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Nigel Farage on 14:00 - Jun 17 with 661 viewsScotia

Nigel Farage on 13:28 - Jun 17 by felixstowe_jack

4700 unemployed in Swansea as of December 2023. Also 20,000 economically inactive. Plenty of spare labour in the area to staff the ground on match days.


There is a good deal of labour around, but what is the plan to get these people in to work?

Most immigrants are employed what is the plan to get British people doing these jobs?
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Nigel Farage on 15:57 - Jun 17 with 611 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Nigel Farage on 14:00 - Jun 17 by Scotia

There is a good deal of labour around, but what is the plan to get these people in to work?

Most immigrants are employed what is the plan to get British people doing these jobs?


Local people often can’t or struggle to apply for these jobs they aren’t open to the general public you have to join the agency. The agencies hoover up immigrants and students. Agency work is unreliable and insecure but that’s the way the employers like it because they can use low paid unskilled labour when they need them then dump them immediately when they don’t. It hands the employer all the power, the worker becomes just a drone to be used and abused, often not knowing where their next shift will come from and whether they’ll earn anything this month.

Working conditions for millions are worse than they’ve been in decades.

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Nigel Farage on 16:22 - Jun 17 with 584 viewsScotia

Nigel Farage on 15:57 - Jun 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Local people often can’t or struggle to apply for these jobs they aren’t open to the general public you have to join the agency. The agencies hoover up immigrants and students. Agency work is unreliable and insecure but that’s the way the employers like it because they can use low paid unskilled labour when they need them then dump them immediately when they don’t. It hands the employer all the power, the worker becomes just a drone to be used and abused, often not knowing where their next shift will come from and whether they’ll earn anything this month.

Working conditions for millions are worse than they’ve been in decades.


And thats why a freeze on non-essential immigration won't work, amongst other reasons.

Most immigrants work in some capacity at least, who else is going to do these jobs?
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Nigel Farage on 17:21 - Jun 17 with 543 viewsonehunglow

Nigel Farage on 23:42 - Jun 14 by Whiterockin

As is the rest of the UK.


Newcastle v Ipswich ….


Caernarfon v Cardiff


You telling me the difference is less ?


We can’t even decide on the language


Btw,why do plaid speak on English on the Senate .

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