| General Election Thread 17:46 - May 22 with 243689 views | loftboy |
This will be the first election that I have no idea who to vote for, will never vote Tory again after the lies during covid where my dad lost his life, don’t trust starmer, would never vote for a bunch of racists like reform , anyone give me a clue?
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| General Election Thread on 10:10 - Jul 5 with 1325 views | R_from_afar |
| General Election Thread on 22:31 - Jul 4 by Northernr |
Kwarteng on Channel 4 sweating like Fred West on Time Team. |
Was Phillip Hammond giving him an introduction to the world of spreadsheets?  |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| General Election Thread on 10:11 - Jul 5 with 1312 views | Northernr |
| General Election Thread on 08:38 - Jul 5 by Superhoop83 |
Hard to pick a top 5, but I'll go for Rees-Mogg, Gullis, Coffey, Shapps and Truss. |
Truss getting slow hand clapped up to the stage was chef's kiss. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 10:15 - Jul 5 with 1271 views | stevec |
| General Election Thread on 08:54 - Jul 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
It's all very odd, isn't it?
There's so many contradictions.
I keep looking at the figures and thinking "If Starmer had stayed Left, he mightn't have lost 3m votes". |
He’d have gained those 3 million votes whilst simultaneously losing the election. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 10:19 - Jul 5 with 1251 views | R_from_afar |
| General Election Thread on 23:52 - Jul 4 by Discodroids |
Can't watch any more election tele coverage as Jo's turned over to itv2 watching love island and explaining the sexual dichotomy between joey essex and some tart with a augmented plastic clitoris from brentwood. [Post edited 4 Jul 23:57]
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"joey essex and some tart"
In tomorrow's episode, apparently, he'll be talking her through the repeal of the corn laws. 🌽 | |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| General Election Thread on 10:28 - Jul 5 with 1205 views | daveB |
| General Election Thread on 08:12 - Jul 5 by joe90 |
I’d like to know where Reform have come second and the impact that will have. They received more votes than the Lib Dem and depending on your views that could be seen as a success for FPTP.
It’s clear immigration is a big issue and Labour will need to deal with it and tone down the negative rhetoric. Gaza also not a big issue judging from the results. Starmer has shifted Labour from the left and if you look at the vote share this is actually a victory for the centre right. |
The Israel/Palestine conflict has played a big part imo
Jess Phillips only just kept her seat due to an Independent running on that ticket, in Slough was similar and many other places. The Muslim vote has been against the main 2 parties for not calling for a ceasefire
Expect similar in America later this year
It hasn't had an impact in terms of seats won but like with Reform it's taken a lot of votes away from the traditional parties and like the boats issue it's something Labour are going to have to get on top of. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 10:30 - Jul 5 with 1191 views | joe90 |
| General Election Thread on 09:47 - Jul 5 by nadera78 |
Not sure that's right on Gaza. 3 or 4 constituencies with very large Muslim communities have elected independents who stood almost exclusively on the issue of Gaza. So Labour have definitely lost votes because of that, and some of the left went to the Greens, but they've countered that by gaining votes from other people in other areas - which likely would be people who voted Tory last time out.
Alongside Reform taking votes across the country but in a haphazard way, the end result is that Labour have basically got the same overall % but a much wider geographical spread and now have a whopping majority (albeit many of those will be small majorities). |
I think the point is that Labour made the decision to not appeal to the left of the party concerned with Gaza and were still able to return a majority. As you say, they were able to gain from other areas, which speaks to my point of them shifting to the right. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 10:37 - Jul 5 with 1147 views | EastR |
| General Election Thread on 09:36 - Jul 5 by Rangersw12 |
This was a personal highlight 🤣
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favourite Dorries quote from last night:
"Tony Blair had a massive one"
she even said it twice |  |
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| General Election Thread on 10:46 - Jul 5 with 2044 views | The_Beast1976 |
| General Election Thread on 10:28 - Jul 5 by daveB |
The Israel/Palestine conflict has played a big part imo
Jess Phillips only just kept her seat due to an Independent running on that ticket, in Slough was similar and many other places. The Muslim vote has been against the main 2 parties for not calling for a ceasefire
Expect similar in America later this year
It hasn't had an impact in terms of seats won but like with Reform it's taken a lot of votes away from the traditional parties and like the boats issue it's something Labour are going to have to get on top of. |
The Muslim vote will decide who is in power in about 20 years' time, and it will be a Muslim leader with Muslim values and rules for all (Muslim or not). Thankfully I will either be dead or won't have long left by then | | | |
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| General Election Thread on 10:49 - Jul 5 with 2012 views | Juzzie |
In his speech just now, Sunak mentioned about Starmer being a decent person etc. and wished hime and his family well.
Why can't they be this respectful when in parliament? Unless it's just 'for the cameras'', they way they talk and behave is appalling IMO, like a bunch of feral point-scoring school kids.
Some respect and decency needs to be brought back. The country mirror how they behave. Johnson behaves like a self-entitled cnt, then people will also behave like a self-entitled cnt. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 10:50 - Jul 5 with 2007 views | joe90 |
| General Election Thread on 10:28 - Jul 5 by daveB |
The Israel/Palestine conflict has played a big part imo
Jess Phillips only just kept her seat due to an Independent running on that ticket, in Slough was similar and many other places. The Muslim vote has been against the main 2 parties for not calling for a ceasefire
Expect similar in America later this year
It hasn't had an impact in terms of seats won but like with Reform it's taken a lot of votes away from the traditional parties and like the boats issue it's something Labour are going to have to get on top of. |
As has been mentioned, Labour has been able to make it up in other areas - which gives me some hope.
I am concerned about the UK's South Asian Muslims community influence on the Israel/Palestine conflict and more broadly our foreign policy. I think there is a fundamental disconnect and an uncomfortable relationship the left has with those communities. Much like the right and Reform, just the other side of the coin. [Post edited 5 Jul 10:57]
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| General Election Thread on 10:52 - Jul 5 with 1981 views | dmm |
| General Election Thread on 10:46 - Jul 5 by The_Beast1976 |
The Muslim vote will decide who is in power in about 20 years' time, and it will be a Muslim leader with Muslim values and rules for all (Muslim or not). Thankfully I will either be dead or won't have long left by then |
What an awful comment to make but it only adds to my feeling that this country is more right wing despite voting in a "Labour" Govt. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 10:52 - Jul 5 with 1979 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| General Election Thread on 10:15 - Jul 5 by stevec |
He’d have gained those 3 million votes whilst simultaneously losing the election. |
Ya, maybe you're right. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 10:58 - Jul 5 with 1909 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 10:52 - Jul 5 by dmm |
What an awful comment to make but it only adds to my feeling that this country is more right wing despite voting in a "Labour" Govt. |
Interesting that you think the comment is "awful" but not "Wrong" or "Inaccurate" |  |
| "Someone despises me. That's their problem." Marcus Aurelius |
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| General Election Thread on 11:05 - Jul 5 with 1857 views | robith |
| General Election Thread on 10:37 - Jul 5 by EastR |
favourite Dorries quote from last night:
"Tony Blair had a massive one"
she even said it twice |
I got the impression Dorries had read Blair's wikipedia page before coming on having just disovered who he was given how often she brought stuff up about him like it was yesterday |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:08 - Jul 5 with 1822 views | StreathamRanger |
| General Election Thread on 10:58 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
Interesting that you think the comment is "awful" but not "Wrong" or "Inaccurate" |
I'd be happy to call his comment awful, wrong and inaccurate. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:11 - Jul 5 with 1785 views | The_Beast1976 |
| General Election Thread on 10:52 - Jul 5 by dmm |
What an awful comment to make but it only adds to my feeling that this country is more right wing despite voting in a "Labour" Govt. |
What's awful about it? I've merely made a statement about what I genuinely think will happen in the future and that I'm glad I probably won't be here for it. [Post edited 5 Jul 11:12]
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| General Election Thread on 11:12 - Jul 5 with 1757 views | SheffieldHoop |
| General Election Thread on 11:08 - Jul 5 by StreathamRanger |
I'd be happy to call his comment awful, wrong and inaccurate. |
You're also happy that this country has elected a party that accepts it allowed sensitivities around ethnicity prevent action on child sexual exploitation and abuse. Grim. | |
| "Someone despises me. That's their problem." Marcus Aurelius |
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| General Election Thread on 11:15 - Jul 5 with 1707 views | dmm |
| General Election Thread on 10:58 - Jul 5 by SheffieldHoop |
Interesting that you think the comment is "awful" but not "Wrong" or "Inaccurate" |
How can it possibly be right and accurate when he's making a future prediction? | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:16 - Jul 5 with 1692 views | Konk |
| General Election Thread on 10:50 - Jul 5 by joe90 |
As has been mentioned, Labour has been able to make it up in other areas - which gives me some hope.
I am concerned about the UK's South Asian Muslims community influence on the Israel/Palestine conflict and more broadly our foreign policy. I think there is a fundamental disconnect and an uncomfortable relationship the left has with those communities. Much like the right and Reform, just the other side of the coin. [Post edited 5 Jul 10:57]
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I'm a bit uncomfortable with it too, but the only time I haven't voted for Labour at a GE was in protest at the invasion of Iraq, and that's true for quite a few people I know, so hopefully it will be similar here, with Labour having refused to call for a ceasefire in Gaza. But as with Northern Ireland, I think it would be very bad news and extremely divisive if people stood on religious platforms. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 11:18 - Jul 5 with 1645 views | dmm |
| General Election Thread on 11:11 - Jul 5 by The_Beast1976 |
What's awful about it? I've merely made a statement about what I genuinely think will happen in the future and that I'm glad I probably won't be here for it. [Post edited 5 Jul 11:12]
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Because you damn Muslims out of hand. Your post is, in effect, islamophobic. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:19 - Jul 5 with 1635 views | paulparker |
| General Election Thread on 10:52 - Jul 5 by dmm |
What an awful comment to make but it only adds to my feeling that this country is more right wing despite voting in a "Labour" Govt. |
Quick question
What is right wing ???? |  |
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| General Election Thread on 11:20 - Jul 5 with 1625 views | The_Beast1976 |
| General Election Thread on 11:15 - Jul 5 by dmm |
How can it possibly be right and accurate when he's making a future prediction? |
Conversely, how can it be wrong and inaccurate (as you allege) when (as you rightly say) I'm making a future prediction? It can be neither accurate nor inaccurate, right nor wrong, until the future has happened.
However, we can say with certainty that it is not awful. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:23 - Jul 5 with 1589 views | dmm |
| General Election Thread on 11:20 - Jul 5 by The_Beast1976 |
Conversely, how can it be wrong and inaccurate (as you allege) when (as you rightly say) I'm making a future prediction? It can be neither accurate nor inaccurate, right nor wrong, until the future has happened.
However, we can say with certainty that it is not awful. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. |
That statement should be aimed at Sheffield as it was he and not me that made those comments. I said it was awful. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:26 - Jul 5 with 1541 views | Bluce_Ree |
| General Election Thread on 11:18 - Jul 5 by dmm |
Because you damn Muslims out of hand. Your post is, in effect, islamophobic. |
I don't really give a f**k but I get why people are islamophobic in some sense. They've not got a great public image and taken to the extreme you end up with Afghanistan where basically life is hell. It's easy to be a bit worried about that. And that's what Farage wants. In fact, scrap that, Farage doesn't really care. He just wants influence and money.
But equally if someone is going to break into my house, steal my car, stamp on my head on a night out or on the way home from footie, be a dickhead neighbour, run me over with their motorbike while they speed down the high street, have seven dosser kids that then come and f**k with my neighbourhood etc, they're probably going to be white. Doesn't mean I'm going to vote for the Black Panther Party of Kill All Crackers. |  |
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