| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. 02:46 - Oct 27 with 15816 views | stainrods_elbow |
I would urge all of us not to take this lying down. The following mail has gone in from me tonight to the Club/Lee Hoos, and the EFL. I feel there needs to be an official protest from the top of the Club, and fans like me need to see it.
lee.hoos@qpr.co.uk
enquiries@efl.com
Dear Mr Hoos and the EFL,
As an aggrieved QPR supporter and active contributor to the QPR messageboard Loft for Words, which has been unified in its livid disgust this evening, I am writing to you now in conjunction with the above incident this evening. This is the first time I have felt driven to do so in 45 years of following the club re a footballing matter, but it cannot be allowed to pass.
As the QPR manager Mark Warburton made clear in his post-match interview, the decision not to award a legitimate goal to QPR, scored by Charlie Austin, was scandalously wrong in a scenario that was not even remotely close, contributing directly to the club's exit from the competition this evening and ultimately making a mockery of the spectacle. It is likely this goal would have won the game, as it was scored a few minutes before the end of the 90 minutes. Given the magnitude of the error and attached photographic evidence that clearly shows Austin very comfortably onside when the ball was played, the decision to disallow the goal can therefore only be explained by a conspiracy of craven incompetence or else corruption.
It has also been pointed out that, to add insult to injury, a flagrant handball by a Sunderland defender in the build-up to the goal occurred, which could and should also have led to a penalty and a red card, so the laws of the game were also not applied twice over for reasons best known to the incompetent officials.
Please review the attached evidence carefully. I wish to know (i) what action will be taken against the referee Keith Stroud and his offending linesmen Paul Hodskinson and Mark Dwyer, as well as the 4th official John Busby, who, despite having a monitor, apparently also enforced this miscarriage of justice, for effectively bringing the game into disrepute; (ii) what reparation will be made to QPR FC for the loss of gate receipts, sponsorship and associated benefits attached to their failure to progress, and (iii) where and when an official apology will be issued for this injustice that is visible to fans.
Finally, I think it would be very wise that Mr Stroud and his officials are not allocated any game at QPR FC for the foreseeable future, as I think it would be difficult for the Club to guarantee their safety were this to happen.
I look forward to your replies.
Yours sincerely,
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 03:22 - Oct 27 with 8616 views | superhoopdownunder |
I've written to the EFL and Trevor Birch their CEO with similar sentiments, although toned down a little
Trevor's email is below
tbirch@efl.com
I copied in Lee Hoos although did not send directly to him.
Hoos should clearly raise this with the EFL and also request we don't get Shroud or any of these other three muppets ever again being officials at our games.
Trevor and the EFL need to respond for this poor decision which ultimately cost us a place in the quarter finals of a cup for the first time in 26 years.
Still feel sick. [Post edited 27 Oct 2021 3:23]
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 04:38 - Oct 27 with 8553 views | stainrods_elbow |
Do include the Twitter photo that is supplied elsewhere on LFW to strengthen the case. | |
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 05:09 - Oct 27 with 8523 views | superhoopdownunder |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 04:38 - Oct 27 by stainrods_elbow |
Do include the Twitter photo that is supplied elsewhere on LFW to strengthen the case. |
Yes included photo. Thanks | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 05:18 - Oct 27 with 8515 views | eastside_r |
You’re actually serious about this!? |  | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 05:32 - Oct 27 with 8495 views | PerthRs |
stainrods_elbow I fully agree with your sentiments and fully agree the match officials were nothing short of bloody useless , watching here at 4am the air and language was blue and almost woke the bloody house up
But I feel your last paragraph will be deemed as threating and this will be what they respond to should they bother and not the actual sequence of events.
Keep us posted should you get a response. |  | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 05:37 - Oct 27 with 8488 views | superhoopdownunder |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 05:32 - Oct 27 by PerthRs |
stainrods_elbow I fully agree with your sentiments and fully agree the match officials were nothing short of bloody useless , watching here at 4am the air and language was blue and almost woke the bloody house up
But I feel your last paragraph will be deemed as threating and this will be what they respond to should they bother and not the actual sequence of events.
Keep us posted should you get a response. |
Yes I toned down a few points including that one as it could be taken as a threat.
Fully agree with the sentiments and believe it’s a base for writing your own letter to
the EFL CEO Trevor Birch
tbirch@efl.com | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 05:56 - Oct 27 with 8440 views | ozexile |
I fully understand the sentiment and the anger. However what do you expect to happen? Sunderland are in the next round and it'll be swept under the carpet. | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 06:22 - Oct 27 with 8394 views | superhoopdownunder |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 05:56 - Oct 27 by ozexile |
I fully understand the sentiment and the anger. However what do you expect to happen? Sunderland are in the next round and it'll be swept under the carpet. |
If it means Shroud and those other officials don’t officiate our future games and/or get demoted I would consider that a small victory. | | | |
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 06:32 - Oct 27 with 8351 views | The_Beast1976 |
The decisions of the refere and linesman are both undoubtedly negligent. Can we not sue both of them for professional negligence and at least recover our financial losses?
Why is it that sh1t like this always happens to us? The QPR curse strikes again | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 07:05 - Oct 27 with 8295 views | themodfather |
wasn't the cup match arsenal v sheff utd replayed after a dodgy goal? due to "sportsmanship" ?? mid 90s?
would this happen to liverpool at anfield? or man utd at old trafford? NO. | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 07:25 - Oct 27 with 8225 views | bakerloo8 |
Got shafted again as is the qpr way.
Suck it up and stop moaning. Life is too short. |  | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 07:46 - Oct 27 with 8169 views | s1cRanger |
Nothing will happen with this especially if you start threatening peoples safety. Let's concentrate on the league and trying to get into the playoffs I say. A few duff results recently but having fewer games to play and a Jan transfer window might strengthen us to push on a little (I hope). |  | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 07:49 - Oct 27 with 8144 views | PunteR |
This cheered me up a bit this morning.
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 07:56 - Oct 27 with 8123 views | hoops_legend |
I was nodding and agreeing with all your points and then I read the last paragraph and you came across as a bit mental I'm afraid... |  |
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 08:09 - Oct 27 with 8058 views | Northernr |
Mental. |  | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 08:11 - Oct 27 with 8047 views | superhoopdownunder |
Reading this seems funny now - and I've calmed down  but was fuming  most of the day (it's now 6pm here)
We can turn this around on Friday and get back up to fourth.
U R's | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 08:47 - Oct 27 with 7877 views | JamesB1979 |
I think you took more effort with that letter than the linesman did learning the rules of football. | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:00 - Oct 27 with 7803 views | mcqpr10 |
Still fuming with the decision this morning. But results done now, nothing we can do about it. On to friday. | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:11 - Oct 27 with 7733 views | Metallica_Hoop |
I like the sentiments but 'Shit appon' as King Willy in Predator 2 would say.
This is dread man. Truly dread. |  |
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:14 - Oct 27 with 7709 views | stevec |
Think your last paragraph is unnecessary but you are absolutely right to at least challenge what this clown of a ref constantly gets away with.
If nothing else it’d be good to know what went on in conversation between linesman and ref. The way the Lino kept his flag down purposely for a long time after the goal suggests Stroud had a major influence on him changing his mind.
Without doubt the worst referee in the league. |  | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:15 - Oct 27 with 7707 views | BrianMcCarthy |
They're human, and a mistake was made.
I can't see how this stuff helps anyone, including us. |  |
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:23 - Oct 27 with 7656 views | Stanisgod |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:15 - Oct 27 by BrianMcCarthy |
They're human, and a mistake was made.
I can't see how this stuff helps anyone, including us. |
I think to call that a " mistake" is pushing it a bit. |  |
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:47 - Oct 27 with 7381 views | QPR_John |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:15 - Oct 27 by BrianMcCarthy |
They're human, and a mistake was made.
I can't see how this stuff helps anyone, including us. |
I can accept a mistake but this was more than that. There was no excuse, there was no quick movement that in real time could arguably be missed. The linesman did not see what we all saw and what was clearly shown on the photograph for which there is no excuse. I repeat it was not a mistake but either the linesman failed in his most important function and guessed or maybe worse was unaware of the changes to the offside law. | | | |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 13:53 - Oct 27 with 5707 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Edit: Unnecessarily aggy. [Post edited 27 Oct 2021 13:58]
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| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 14:02 - Oct 27 with 5632 views | PinnerPaul |
| Post-Sunderland: complaining to the club and EFL. on 09:14 - Oct 27 by stevec |
Think your last paragraph is unnecessary but you are absolutely right to at least challenge what this clown of a ref constantly gets away with.
If nothing else it’d be good to know what went on in conversation between linesman and ref. The way the Lino kept his flag down purposely for a long time after the goal suggests Stroud had a major influence on him changing his mind.
Without doubt the worst referee in the league. |
Why does he get the blame for the incompetence of his assistant?
Have you EVER seen a referee give or overrule an offside like that at ANT game with qualified assistants?
He's not my favourite but he actually had a decent game.
Handball and red card?????????????? What?????!!!!!
On the original letter the 4th isn't allowed to make decisions or advise based on looking at a monitor - so that's nonsense as well.
As for including the poor bloke (Other AR) on the far side about 80 yards away - well?! | | | |
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